Most obnoxious CPU cheat?

[Brondbyfan]

So at this point we have all realized that Konami was absolutely shameless in programming the CPU to bend the laws of the game and the laws of physics when it wants a goal. These are the cheats I have noticed; which one pissed you off the most?

 

[jstyants]

Injury time lasts 12 minutes:
Ain't got a clue what your talking about

CPU scores goals from offside position:
There are a fair few off side goals in real football ... so whats the problem with this?

Crap players score 30-yard unstoppable drives:
So what, if you hit the sweet spot anyone can score unstoppable goals. Watch football more and you will see.

Keeper can't catch anything; rebound always goes to CPU player:
Ain't got a clue

Your players become idiots and can't pass or clear:
Doesn't effect me

CPU allowed to foul you:
Erm.. Not every tackle has/should be a foul.

 

[night]

Injury time lasts 12 minutes:
Ain't got a clue what your talking about

CPU scores goals from offside position:
There are a fair few off side goals in real football ... so whats the problem with this?

Crap players score 30-yard unstoppable drives:
So what, if you hit the sweet spot anyone can score unstoppable goals. Watch football more and you will see.

Keeper can't catch anything; rebound always goes to CPU player:
Ain't got a clue

Your players become idiots and can't pass or clear:
Doesn't effect me

CPU allowed to foul you:
Erm.. Not every tackle has/should be a foul.

Oh come on! You make it look like the game is perfect
All those mentioned frustrate the f*ck out of so many people so stop being such a fanboy.
For me it's a close one between the keeper rebounds and players becoming stupid.

 

[Da Kid]

the game is not perfect! i cant stand that better players pass like locomotive next 2 mine and that is unrealistic...i hate when cpu gk rarely gets punished when he tackles me in 16 meter box...penalty!

 

[yoyo913]

The computer dosen't cheat on purpose, and usually you can do the same

Injury time lasts 12 minutes: Its because the side is attacking with the ball, you can't just end it when there might be a goal, just like in real life

CPU scores goals from offside position: thats just untrue

Crap players score 30-yard unstoppable drives: That happens very rarely

Keeper can't catch anything; rebound always goes to CPU player: Thats how football is

Your players become idiots and can't pass or clear: its your fault

CPU allowed to foul you: not true

 

[jackbauer]

The computer dosen't cheat on purpose, and usually you can do the same

Injury time lasts 12 minutes: Its because the side is attacking with the ball, you can't just end it when there might be a goal, just like in real life

CPU scores goals from offside position: thats just untrue

Crap players score 30-yard unstoppable drives: That happens very rarely

Keeper can't catch anything; rebound always goes to CPU player: Thats how football is

Your players become idiots and can't pass or clear: its your fault

CPU allowed to foul you: not true

This game cheats people.....but not for any of the reasons stated above. All of those things happen in real football.

The game cheats because your defensive backline just stands there with their thumbs up their arses while the CPU dribbles a figure 8 around all of them in the box and then rifles one past your goalie.

I have tried EVERY strategy with backline settings at A,B, and C and nothing works. I've also changed formations and subbed out at the right times. When the CPU decides it's going to score it does.

The CPU's defense plays the game the way it's supposed to be played. Why don't my defenders do the same. That's the cheating that's in the game.

 

[MightyTic]

Cheats?

But these things happen in PES..

Annoying as $%^& ,

1. Tackles, cpu player runs up to you and toe pokes the ball away, goes on average a yard or 2 and he gets onto it. You do the same and toe poke the ball away from the cpu player, 99 times out of 100 you will bump off him and go into a stagger and the cpu gets the ball back. or if not, this is only because when you stick out a foot and knock the ball away from him it goes 5 or 6yards always just enough for another cpu player to pick up or you will hit it out for a throw in to the cpu.

The constant freekicks of PES5 were taken out , thank god! But konami have replaced this with this bump and stagger. I have (if stats really count) 6ft plus players 13st and I run them up to tackle a very much smaller cpu player, yep! you guest it.. the big player is sent into a spin while the little guy continues on up the park as if he's not been in a clash at all..

Annoying thing no2 .. for me its the control Icon.. 99 times out of 100 when a cpu player is breaking foward with the ball, its your players behing the play that highlight when you press L1. And if these player chase him up to the box then a defender won't highlight until it to late.

Ive seen cpu players run up the middle toward the D, and its my players behind him that highlight, when about 22yrds out the defenders start to get the control icon appearing about them, but what usually happens is, your 2 CB split one right and the other left as you press L1 , 1st one fullback highlights then the other only on the 3rd or 4th press will the player you need highlighted (1 of you CB's) but by the time that happens you CBs have left a large gap right down the middle of you penaly box.

Don't say it ...use semi or auto icon control, if manual icon control is bad enough when it comes to assisted cpu passing or hightlighting of your players then its even worse on semi or automatic.


3, Side on to goal , even 2 3 yards out. even in the middle of the goals a pass is made to you player in that position and you press shoot as the ball comes to him , he half turns towards goal and the ball goes sky high. Now do player miss goals from a yard out ! Yes... but with the build in "off balance" when you turn towards goal be it from back to goal or side on or a bending round and angle you analog stick to shoot towards goal.. The ball either skys or even more annoying, you player does this little lob! That the £$%% is that all about! you press shoot aim your stick to whatever corner and your player lobs the ball up about a couple of yards in front of himself..??

But with the build in off balance as you turn towards goal as I said even from side on 2 3 yards out, 9 times out of 10 the ball skys..

Ad what is with the keeper , he catches the ball , and you press and press for him to throw it out.. he just stands there..

How come at quick freekicks there are always plenty of cpu players in or very near..I don't think Ive seen a quick freekick where there is any sort of real advantage.

 

[Da Kid]

Cheats?

But these things happen in PES..

Annoying as $%^& ,

1. Tackles, cpu player runs up to you and toe pokes the ball away, goes on average a yard or 2 and he gets onto it. You do the same and toe poke the ball away from the cpu player, 99 times out of 100 you will bump off him and go into a stagger and the cpu gets the ball back. or if not, this is only because when you stick out a foot and knock the ball away from him it goes 5 or 6yards always just enough for another cpu player to pick up or you will hit it out for a throw in to the cpu.

The constant freekicks of PES5 were taken out , thank god! But konami have replaced this with this bump and stagger. I have (if stats really count) 6ft plus players 13st and I run them up to tackle a very much smaller cpu player, yep! you guest it.. the big player is sent into a spin while the little guy continues on up the park as if he's not been in a clash at all..

Annoying thing no2 .. for me its the control Icon.. 99 times out of 100 when a cpu player is breaking foward with the ball, its your players behing the play that highlight when you press L1. And if these player chase him up to the box then a defender won't highlight until it to late.

Ive seen cpu players run up the middle toward the D, and its my players behind him that highlight, when about 22yrds out the defenders start to get the control icon appearing about them, but what usually happens is, your 2 CB split one right and the other left as you press L1 , 1st one fullback highlights then the other only on the 3rd or 4th press will the player you need highlighted (1 of you CB's) but by the time that happens you CBs have left a large gap right down the middle of you penaly box.

Don't say it ...use semi or auto icon control, if manual icon control is bad enough when it comes to assisted cpu passing or hightlighting of your players then its even worse on semi or automatic.


3, Side on to goal , even 2 3 yards out. even in the middle of the goals a pass is made to you player in that position and you press shoot as the ball comes to him , he half turns towards goal and the ball goes sky high. Now do player miss goals from a yard out ! Yes... but with the build in "off balance" when you turn towards goal be it from back to goal or side on or a bending round and angle you analog stick to shoot towards goal.. The ball either skys or even more annoying, you player does this little lob! That the £$%% is that all about! you press shoot aim your stick to whatever corner and your player lobs the ball up about a couple of yards in front of himself..??

But with the build in off balance as you turn towards goal as I said even from side on 2 3 yards out, 9 times out of 10 the ball skys..

Ad what is with the keeper , he catches the ball , and you press and press for him to throw it out.. he just stands there..

How come at quick freekicks there are always plenty of cpu players in or very near..I don't think Ive seen a quick freekick where there is any sort of real advantage.

CO-SIGN!!!!
I agree on every fcuking word!! We can all pray that in pes7 wont be such mistakes

 

[jackbauer]

Cheats?

But these things happen in PES..

Annoying as $%^& ,

1. Tackles, cpu player runs up to you and toe pokes the ball away, goes on average a yard or 2 and he gets onto it. You do the same and toe poke the ball away from the cpu player, 99 times out of 100 you will bump off him and go into a stagger and the cpu gets the ball back. or if not, this is only because when you stick out a foot and knock the ball away from him it goes 5 or 6yards always just enough for another cpu player to pick up or you will hit it out for a throw in to the cpu.

The constant freekicks of PES5 were taken out , thank god! But konami have replaced this with this bump and stagger. I have (if stats really count) 6ft plus players 13st and I run them up to tackle a very much smaller cpu player, yep! you guest it.. the big player is sent into a spin while the little guy continues on up the park as if he's not been in a clash at all..

Annoying thing no2 .. for me its the control Icon.. 99 times out of 100 when a cpu player is breaking foward with the ball, its your players behing the play that highlight when you press L1. And if these player chase him up to the box then a defender won't highlight until it to late.

Ive seen cpu players run up the middle toward the D, and its my players behind him that highlight, when about 22yrds out the defenders start to get the control icon appearing about them, but what usually happens is, your 2 CB split one right and the other left as you press L1 , 1st one fullback highlights then the other only on the 3rd or 4th press will the player you need highlighted (1 of you CB's) but by the time that happens you CBs have left a large gap right down the middle of you penaly box.

Don't say it ...use semi or auto icon control, if manual icon control is bad enough when it comes to assisted cpu passing or hightlighting of your players then its even worse on semi or automatic.


3, Side on to goal , even 2 3 yards out. even in the middle of the goals a pass is made to you player in that position and you press shoot as the ball comes to him , he half turns towards goal and the ball goes sky high. Now do player miss goals from a yard out ! Yes... but with the build in "off balance" when you turn towards goal be it from back to goal or side on or a bending round and angle you analog stick to shoot towards goal.. The ball either skys or even more annoying, you player does this little lob! That the £$%% is that all about! you press shoot aim your stick to whatever corner and your player lobs the ball up about a couple of yards in front of himself..??

But with the build in off balance as you turn towards goal as I said even from side on 2 3 yards out, 9 times out of 10 the ball skys..

Ad what is with the keeper , he catches the ball , and you press and press for him to throw it out.. he just stands there..

How come at quick freekicks there are always plenty of cpu players in or very near..I don't think Ive seen a quick freekick where there is any sort of real advantage.

OMG!! What you said about the goalie not throwing the ball is so f&*&(*^*& annoying. THROW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[samuelbarros]

There is not one single aspect of PES6 that is not tarnished by the incessant cpu interference (read "cheats") that script the game to the point where it's not worth playing.

Actually, that's not strictly true. The "off" button still works fine, thank god, although, in the case of PES6, it should be renamed the "f.uck off" button.

PES6

 

[funkster192]

The most annoying CPU Cheats I have found where when you are defending a cross or attacking when crossing the ball in, and the rebound goes 99% of the time to the CPU. When the I tackle the CPU and always get a yellow carded even through i clearly got the ball, yet when the CPU tackles me from behind, the CPU 99% of the time never gets a yellow card. Another is when u use hard tackle and kick the ball away from the CPU, the CPU player quickly gets up and takes the ball again, yet I'm still stuck lying on the ground. Another one I hate is about the collision system where the CPU can kick the ball off you from behind the legs, where the CPUs legs can pass through your players legs.

 

[MightyTic]

I said what I didn't like about PES6, but lets not kid ourselves, its still the best football game out there..

But Konami need to move away from Assisted passing and on to manual power bar passing. They need to get away from assisted cpu gaming and make PES totally free, as I said, I had a game years ago called Viva Football(in fact its somewhere in my cupboards, just won't play on XP), again while not the greatest thing since sliced bread, it had manual passing! You hit the ball the way you were facing, not as a soon as you press the button in PES to pass the cpu picks a player, then your player if not facing that player will turn and knock it that way..

In Viva the direct of the pass/lob/long ball was down to 2 things, the way you were facing at the time of release and the power you put into the pass/lob/long ball. This meant that you could put the ball anywhere you wanted on the pitch, unlike PES where the cpu decides in what direction the ball is going.

You ever notice how you can't ever put a long ball over the back of the back 4, in Viva you could put the ball down into the corners, that got the defence turning and running back. In PES crosses are hit to or in the direction of your player, not into the box via direction and power. The amount of times Ive tired to put a ball beyond the back 4 only from one of them to head the ball away, that's becuase you can never get the ball over them , because the lob pass through ball is tied to where the player your hitting the ball to is standing, crosses into the box from about 25yrs outwide are always headed away by a cpu CB standing in the box just behind the D.

And example is the through ball , no matter how hard you press down on the button, if you have a team mate within 5 or 6 yards of your player making the pass, the that through ball will turn into a short pass, instead of a long through ball for your player to chase...

If they keep this Assisted cpu passing and don't free up the player and the ball (give us the power to place the ball where WE want, by picking the direction and power) then no amount of tweaks or graphics will make the next one any different from this one!

If they could make a game with manual passing all those years ago, free to hit the ball anywhere on the park, where it went and how long it travelled was down to the direction you faced your player and the power you put into it, then Feck me, it should be a dawdle in 2007.

 

[funkster192]

I agree on the manual passing/shooting part, but i don't agree how you think it should be done, i think they should just make the right analogue stick in the game fully analogue instead of 8-way, that way u can face your player where you want, and then pass wherever you want.

 

[techtrance11]

what annoys me is when the cpu has a corner and u cant get ur marker to any player near the front post and by the time u get some1 there its a goal

 

[Gunnersgoal22]

Most annoying and unrealistic thing is the CPU headers. They're 20 times harder than the regular CPU shots with feet and always seem to sneak in ( at least 30% of the CPU goals are from crosses and headers)

 

[Saltor]

Always remember this is a PC game, not the real one.

 

[Energia]

I havent any cheats by cpu...

THIS, because I know how set and optimize my HARDWARE/SOFTWARE to optimize performance in game (also kitserver files must be in standard resolution)

 

[mydumpstinks]

u really think them settings affect how the cpu plays his or your game?

 

[HaterNob]

at this whole thread! WTF?!

 

[Da Kid]

at this whole thread! WTF?!

then get tha fcuk out of this thread