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[MOD] MODS by Doctor+ Productions (Fidel Gameplay)
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The Wizard
Reserve Team
One question: I only want to install Hybrid Gameplay + AI Mod. Could I combinate HG 1.0 + AI 1.3 or is AI 1.3 only for the reworked DB?
Wizard, I'm not Fidel so can't tell you for sure, however, I have successfully installed AI 1.3 and his HG with no issues. I have not seen any strange interactions between players or what not. However, I have seen people mention on here that AI 1.0 and HG AND DB I believe working beautifully, I just choose the latest AI because I figure its what Fidel would have tested the most recent and should work best with his most current releases.
I would say test both combinations and let me know, as I don't have as much time as i'd like to test.
Oh for those wondering about best slider settings. Mine are far from being perfect so i won't link them, but here is what i have found, unlike fifa 13, when you change the Positional Marking sliders, you get MAJOR changes to your defence and opposition defence. I tend to change it sometimes to make sure my players are actually attempting to intercept passes etc... but have not tested with ai 1.3 and HG yet.
I would say test both combinations and let me know, as I don't have as much time as i'd like to test.
Oh for those wondering about best slider settings. Mine are far from being perfect so i won't link them, but here is what i have found, unlike fifa 13, when you change the Positional Marking sliders, you get MAJOR changes to your defence and opposition defence. I tend to change it sometimes to make sure my players are actually attempting to intercept passes etc... but have not tested with ai 1.3 and HG yet.
The Wizard;3569216 said:
fanoflinoa
Club Supporter
hello everyone.
Well, continuing the testing for the 1.3 Ai-Hg-db, in my career with the BVB(WC, 10 min and defaut sliders) and it's great, even if there is a lot of AI cheating like:
-The AI clearence always goes to en unmarked teammates.
-Even a substitute of a 2nd division team is able to controle and conservate the ball while being surronded by 3 players and manage to make a very precise pass forward.
-Sometimes after a head contest or a bad control, no player goes to the ball for about 1-2 sec, while the Ai don't miss that chance.
-Also (but it's for both player and AI) scoring header is so easy, even whit 2 defender on him a forward will almost always hit the ball.
Maybe, i will try the AI 1.0 to see what difference there is.
Another point, i tried the "become a pro" mod, and i noticed something very paradoxal:
-When playing an existing player (Stefan Kiessling, the ghost scorer), the player stats are back to game defaut (80 for Kiessling).
-When creating a new player, the players stats remain from the db (70 for Kiessling), but the player i creat have the defaut stats (start ebout 66-69) which means that after a year or 2, he will become about 80 and more, which means the best player on earth.
The paradoxal thing is that it should be the opposit, defaut stats for created player, and db stats for existing player.
I don't know if it's able to be changed or not, anyway, now you know about it.
And finnaly, i see that no one have posted sliders, come on guys, don't be shy, share with us.
Voilà, have fun everyone.
Well, continuing the testing for the 1.3 Ai-Hg-db, in my career with the BVB(WC, 10 min and defaut sliders) and it's great, even if there is a lot of AI cheating like:
-The AI clearence always goes to en unmarked teammates.
-Even a substitute of a 2nd division team is able to controle and conservate the ball while being surronded by 3 players and manage to make a very precise pass forward.
-Sometimes after a head contest or a bad control, no player goes to the ball for about 1-2 sec, while the Ai don't miss that chance.
-Also (but it's for both player and AI) scoring header is so easy, even whit 2 defender on him a forward will almost always hit the ball.
Maybe, i will try the AI 1.0 to see what difference there is.
Another point, i tried the "become a pro" mod, and i noticed something very paradoxal:
-When playing an existing player (Stefan Kiessling, the ghost scorer), the player stats are back to game defaut (80 for Kiessling).
-When creating a new player, the players stats remain from the db (70 for Kiessling), but the player i creat have the defaut stats (start ebout 66-69) which means that after a year or 2, he will become about 80 and more, which means the best player on earth.
The paradoxal thing is that it should be the opposit, defaut stats for created player, and db stats for existing player.
I don't know if it's able to be changed or not, anyway, now you know about it.
And finnaly, i see that no one have posted sliders, come on guys, don't be shy, share with us.
Voilà, have fun everyone.
xPr0metheus
Reserve Team
hey fidel
I tried hg 1.0 with ai 1.0 and db update 0.6
So my feedback:
-Many tricks on ai side (which is very cool)
-unfluent and stuttered movement of the players
-players often run past the ball
-goalkeeper holds the ball just with one hand.
But the stuttering movement is really bad. Rest is okay. best part is that ai makes tricks too
I tried hg 1.0 with ai 1.0 and db update 0.6
So my feedback:
-Many tricks on ai side (which is very cool)
-unfluent and stuttered movement of the players
-players often run past the ball
-goalkeeper holds the ball just with one hand.
But the stuttering movement is really bad. Rest is okay. best part is that ai makes tricks too
Hi Fidel!
Did a bit more testing. Thus far:
Ai 1.3 + Hybrid gameplay:
PROS:
Players pass well between each other, sometimes some slow down.
Computer plays well and can score goals.
CONS:
Computer Cheats
Not too many fouls
Computer calls foul on player very quickly when tugging pulling, but doesn't call it very fast IF at all when its players pull our shirts etc..
Sometimes players forget the ball when they run.
Sometimes handballs will happen while on the ground.
Most handballs against the player. I remember this issue from FIFA 13.
General comments from an error stand point this combination is far better than any others. I have tested this with DB as well, with very similar complaints. From a cheating stand point, it is the worst.
Ai 1.0 + Hybrid gameplay:
PROS:
- Best overall gameplay. Players will rush the ball, especially when the goalkeeper JUST blocks it or punches out. Makes for VERY VERy exciting play.
- PC will not cheat, which is very pleasant, in general fast players can outrun slower ones without PC cheating coming in to play.
- Our own players play defence!! Without us having to control them all the time, it is SO very nice.
- Our own players attack almost without our input. One instant I was trying to head the ball with one player that missed it, and whether PC took over or I somehow did it which i doubt, 2nd player behind him headed it in, it was very nice!
CONS:
- First touch seems confused, passes sometimes bounce off of a heel even when nothing major happening.
- Players sometimes forget the ball and just run past it, or forget to kick it, or move around in place trying to figure out what they shoulddo.
- Very few fouls, PC still very superior with tackles/no errors.
- Still many handballs, on the ground or when heading the ball.
Hope this helps.
Did a bit more testing. Thus far:
Ai 1.3 + Hybrid gameplay:
PROS:
Players pass well between each other, sometimes some slow down.
Computer plays well and can score goals.
CONS:
Computer Cheats
Not too many fouls
Computer calls foul on player very quickly when tugging pulling, but doesn't call it very fast IF at all when its players pull our shirts etc..
Sometimes players forget the ball when they run.
Sometimes handballs will happen while on the ground.
Most handballs against the player. I remember this issue from FIFA 13.
General comments from an error stand point this combination is far better than any others. I have tested this with DB as well, with very similar complaints. From a cheating stand point, it is the worst.
Ai 1.0 + Hybrid gameplay:
PROS:
- Best overall gameplay. Players will rush the ball, especially when the goalkeeper JUST blocks it or punches out. Makes for VERY VERy exciting play.
- PC will not cheat, which is very pleasant, in general fast players can outrun slower ones without PC cheating coming in to play.
- Our own players play defence!! Without us having to control them all the time, it is SO very nice.
- Our own players attack almost without our input. One instant I was trying to head the ball with one player that missed it, and whether PC took over or I somehow did it which i doubt, 2nd player behind him headed it in, it was very nice!
CONS:
- First touch seems confused, passes sometimes bounce off of a heel even when nothing major happening.
- Players sometimes forget the ball and just run past it, or forget to kick it, or move around in place trying to figure out what they shoulddo.
- Very few fouls, PC still very superior with tackles/no errors.
- Still many handballs, on the ground or when heading the ball.
Hope this helps.
Fidel
again after more hourse spending with HG + AI 1.3
i think im never been so mad like this before lol on my FIFA
-CPU cheat as member maseren said
-more of the times passes confuse players and the ball just there and nobody do anything..and players just run around to reach ball lol
-every head is goal...makes me CRAZY
-GK is the weakest in FIFA history
-many and many stuttering..donno what hppnd to the mod
but i like how they act in the match..and shooting..fouls..reactions
animations...
but need alot of fixes bro
best wishz...send test files plz
again after more hourse spending with HG + AI 1.3
i think im never been so mad like this before lol on my FIFA
-CPU cheat as member maseren said
-more of the times passes confuse players and the ball just there and nobody do anything..and players just run around to reach ball lol
-every head is goal...makes me CRAZY
-GK is the weakest in FIFA history
-many and many stuttering..donno what hppnd to the mod
but i like how they act in the match..and shooting..fouls..reactions
animations...
but need alot of fixes bro
best wishz...send test files plz
dazzer169;3567526 said:
be specific to the files you are talking about.
i would be willing to try this combination if someone would upload the needed files for a manual install, i refuse to install any exe file related to fifa other than fifa's exe.
Hi regularcat,regularcat;3569554 said:
You can do what I always do: just install the program to C
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test (instead of FIFA game-directory) and move the files to the Game directory manually.@Fidel:
It would be great if you added to following things:
Code:
[CAREER_MODE]
// negative means that the opposition is better than us
// positive means that the opposition is worse than us
OVERALL_RATING_DIFF_0 = -25
OVERALL_RATING_DIFF_1 = -20
OVERALL_RATING_DIFF_2 = -15
OVERALL_RATING_DIFF_3 = -10
OVERALL_RATING_DIFF_4 = -7
OVERALL_RATING_DIFF_5 = -5
OVERALL_RATING_DIFF_6 = -4
OVERALL_RATING_DIFF_7 = -3
OVERALL_RATING_DIFF_8 = -2
OVERALL_RATING_DIFF_9 = -1
OVERALL_RATING_DIFF_10 = 0
OVERALL_RATING_DIFF_11 = 5
OVERALL_RATING_DIFF_12 = 10
OVERALL_RATING_DIFF_13 = 15
OVERALL_RATING_DIFF_14 = 20
OVERALL_RATING_DIFF_15 = 25
OVERALL_RATING_DIFF_16 = 30
OVERALL_RATING_DIFF_17 = 35
OVERALL_RATING_DIFF_18 = 40
OVERALL_RATING_DIFF_19 = 45
OVERALL_RATING_DIFF_20 = 50
// 100 represents one full difficulty level
// negative reduces the difficulty
// positive increase the difficulty
DIFFICULTY_MODIFIER_0 = 100
DIFFICULTY_MODIFIER_1 = 100
DIFFICULTY_MODIFIER_2 = 100
DIFFICULTY_MODIFIER_3 = 100
DIFFICULTY_MODIFIER_4 = 100
DIFFICULTY_MODIFIER_5 = 100
DIFFICULTY_MODIFIER_6 = 100
DIFFICULTY_MODIFIER_7 = 100
DIFFICULTY_MODIFIER_8 = 100
DIFFICULTY_MODIFIER_9 = 100
DIFFICULTY_MODIFIER_10 = 100
DIFFICULTY_MODIFIER_11 = 100
DIFFICULTY_MODIFIER_12 = 100
DIFFICULTY_MODIFIER_13 = 100
DIFFICULTY_MODIFIER_14 = 100
DIFFICULTY_MODIFIER_15 = 100
DIFFICULTY_MODIFIER_16 = 100
DIFFICULTY_MODIFIER_17 = 100
DIFFICULTY_MODIFIER_18 = 100
DIFFICULTY_MODIFIER_19 = 100
DIFFICULTY_MODIFIER_20 = 100
// we want to simulate that player a team that's better than you
// that is rated in the D+ 80s is harder then if they were in the 50s
// so we scale the user rating between MIN_VAL and MAX_VAL
// and apply the the modifier to the difficulty modifier above
// so if I'm rated 85 and I play someone better than me, I multiply
// the difficulty modifier by 3 - if I was rated 80 it would be 2.3333
OVERALL_RATING_DIFF_MIN_VAL = 70
OVERALL_RATING_DIFF_MAX_VAL = 85
OVERALL_RATING_DIFF_MIN_MOD = 1.0
OVERALL_RATING_DIFF_MAX_MOD = 1.0Also this line for less (quick) throw-ins:
Code:
QUICKTHROWIN=0Furthermore I have a stupid question: why is cl.ini used and not product.ini?
Thanks for your mods! I'm using AI1.3 and the latest HG in combination with the default db.
Fidel Gameplay
Senior Squad
My reply block 1:
Yes now you can see defender bike kicks clearance (not all defender, only some with special skills, Ramos for example, check one match agaist real and let me know, it work both human/ai), this thing is Included in HG, and tweaked through new GP EVO AI.
Bye
Hello,
about
UsePropPhysActivationJobs=1
sometimes the ditor try some settings/values.
About my sliders:
This year I edit gameplay by using ori slider settings, in this way the user have more liberty/range to adapt sliders to his game style. Anyway I've my sliders settings when I play my career, I've an "Gameplay Editing profile settings" and a normal profile which I load when I play my career.
Yes for player's wage and value fix you must do the same thing last year made by corleone (check my fifa13 shared folder, download 13 wage/value corleone mod/fix, check files structure, you can try to apply same settings to 14 files.
For more info about HG check/read here:
http://www.soccergaming.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3565222&postcount=269
I suggest you to use full gameplay combo mod (HG+DB+AI).
Anyway you can try easy all gameplay combo bu using my latest tool.
I suggest also you to check all feedback/post into my thread, but remember that only by trying yourself, you can see if you like or not like.
Bye swamped boy (I joke!)
Yes, all beta testers and expert users must do this.
All manual installation versions are available on my skydrive shared folder.
Bye
Hello, I do not have much time to reply to all your questions,
but:
PHYSICAL_********= 0 zero means that the skill value is totally managed by value stored in db.
I suggest 0 for use ai on both with gp evo db.
Comment or delete string to enable extra value instead at only db value.
Anyway I realease a special ai for default db soon. Bye
Hello,
nike incyte red ball in the arena!
Bye
hello,
read my reply above. Anyway I share my sliders, wait a little bit time. Bye
happyloaf;3567991 said:
Yes now you can see defender bike kicks clearance (not all defender, only some with special skills, Ramos for example, check one match agaist real and let me know, it work both human/ai), this thing is Included in HG, and tweaked through new GP EVO AI.
Bye
fanoflinoa;3568234 said:
Hello,
about
UsePropPhysActivationJobs=1
sometimes the ditor try some settings/values.
About my sliders:
This year I edit gameplay by using ori slider settings, in this way the user have more liberty/range to adapt sliders to his game style. Anyway I've my sliders settings when I play my career, I've an "Gameplay Editing profile settings" and a normal profile which I load when I play my career.
Yes for player's wage and value fix you must do the same thing last year made by corleone (check my fifa13 shared folder, download 13 wage/value corleone mod/fix, check files structure, you can try to apply same settings to 14 files.
maseren;3568253 said:Ok, i am still confused by this, so if someone can ellaborate i would very much appreciate it. What is hybrid play? ie... if i run ai+db vs ai+db+hybrid or i run ai+hybrid.
How does it all work? If anyone other than Fidel can explain this it would be great as I know he's swamped
For more info about HG check/read here:
http://www.soccergaming.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3565222&postcount=269
I suggest you to use full gameplay combo mod (HG+DB+AI).
Anyway you can try easy all gameplay combo bu using my latest tool.
I suggest also you to check all feedback/post into my thread, but remember that only by trying yourself, you can see if you like or not like.
Bye swamped boy (I joke!)
dazzer169;3568494 said:
Yes, all beta testers and expert users must do this.
All manual installation versions are available on my skydrive shared folder.
Bye
dazzer169;3568497 said:
Hello, I do not have much time to reply to all your questions,
but:
PHYSICAL_********= 0 zero means that the skill value is totally managed by value stored in db.
I suggest 0 for use ai on both with gp evo db.
Comment or delete string to enable extra value instead at only db value.
Anyway I realease a special ai for default db soon. Bye
kaicooper;3568552 said:
Hello,
nike incyte red ball in the arena!
Bye
darkoj2007;3568715 said:Fidel thanks for the awesome work
hello,
read my reply above. Anyway I share my sliders, wait a little bit time. Bye
i need these files for manual install fidel, send me a pm.
AI 1.0 + Hybrid Gameplay Combo
AI 1.0 + Hybrid Gameplay Combo
Fidel Gameplay
Senior Squad
ferraus;3568793 said:
Hello, your post open my mind. I think is a problem with ai morale + career mode difficulty modifiers (check beta990 latest post here, he is right).
Anyway these are problems that can be solved with calm. Is not a priority now (use beta990 settings or wait for mine)!
However, I understand you're irritated after the fifth game,
Now let's see if the problem is the ai morale, come on:
before fifth game go to ai team (two controllers or keyboard+ controller is required to do this trick)
check ai player's morale (perhaps all players in 11 start-up are up with morale), the reason is because the ai manager is ampeccable and use best morale players in the start-up 11, but everytime ruin real rosters.
Now you can adjust the ai 11 start-up as you want (like a real roster). Before kick off you can go in the menù and remove ai controller/keyboard from side to center).
For example I use this trick to adjust ai 11 start-up players (for override ai manager teams setting) on according to real rosters or real match playerd in tv.
Let me know for other tips.
Bye
regularcat;3568986 said:
Hello,
all manual installation versions are available on my skydrive shared folder.
Bye
Fidel Gameplay
Senior Squad
regularcat;3569596 said:
Hello, download everything you need from here:
http://sdrv.ms/1azcW84
browse mod folders, change folder visualization settings at top right, download relative mod folder by right click also (.
I use like other year, folder/files game structure on skydrive folder.
So you can even download a single file that you are interested.
Bye
EDIT:
Big thanks to everyone for all the post.
Big thanks to all beta testers.
I reply to everyone as soon as possible!
I'm working to an AI update and soon it come out.
Fidel Gameplay;3569609 said:
i grabbed the v1.0 Hybrid attribdb files, but i can't get the AI v1.0 ini file by itself, can you pm me the ini file.
Fidel Gameplay
Senior Squad
regularcat;3569617 said:
You're right, I've now upload the 1.0.
Bye
beta990;3569629 said:Hi Fidel,
It would be great if you could reply to my post. I think this values could be imported in the Career Mode for the gameplay. I know you're are busy, but just to let you know.
Thanks.
Hello try to use these settings:
overwrite strings in my cl.ini with these:
Anyway try by itself the best setting.
I believe, however, may be useful a small program/utility with a GUI interface with sliders pointing to the career Mode difficulty tuning string's values, for edit these settings as the user want (on according to his style/difficulty/ability).
EDIT: Now I see your last post with these settings increased, do you want to increase the difficulty, I think!
Others users want to reduce.
Now I think, the red on this post acquires even more importance!
My settings here, instead reduce the AI difficulty and consequent AI cheat reducing.
Bye
AirBlaster
Club Supporter
Hi fidel,will you include some things from next gen fifa when it comes out?
I downloaded a version in which it does not require installation. How do I regenerate the files then?
I tried using File Master but I got an error. I tried using i68 but it gives me this "Il file di inizializzazione non e stato trovato i'applicazione provvedera a ricrearlo ripristinando le impostazioni di default". I have no idea what it says but it crashes after.
I tried using File Master but I got an error. I tried using i68 but it gives me this "Il file di inizializzazione non e stato trovato i'applicazione provvedera a ricrearlo ripristinando le impostazioni di default". I have no idea what it says but it crashes after.