Originally posted by ladylover
You are stupid, you have to make choices between the players, the most dangerous attackers at Man U are RvN and Rooney, so he field them, it is just like making a choice between Brown or Ferdinand, obviously, you would choose for Ferdinand, why?... because he is better. SAF knows how to rotate with the strikers, he did it in 99' succesfully. Nobody drops Alan Smith, it is just choosing the most dangerous combination. SAF has been developing young players until now, and it worked out most of the time. Haha talking about diving there are other players diving more, if you want to talk about diving, lo
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Manchester United Thread [2004-2005]
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Your wrong about RvN and Rooney being the most dangerous.Saha once fit is way better than Rooney.Once at his best is on par with Ruud.His strength and style suit United.Saha is just better.And smith also deserves place.Rooney needs to treated the C Ronaldo was treated in his first season instead Ferguson is starting him every game.
In Ronaldo's first season, he just broke through the team at Sporting after being a reserve player for half a season and then came to United before the next season started. As for Rooney, he was getting the same treatment from Moyes for 2 years, which i think is enough to be a player that can play every week, especially after you had such a good World Cup. Saha is a full striker, unlike Rooney and Saha is also almost at his peak, while Rooney has a long way to go to get to his peak.
Originally posted by nik_9999
What an inspiring team you have on your hands here.
Let's see. We have Kleberson, the Brazilian who doesn't play, Djemba-Djemba, who can't defend, and Saha and Van Horseface, who can't stay healthy. You've poured millions of pounds into this team, and your best player is....Rio Ferdinand?!
What the hell have you guys been doing in the transfer market? Is Ferguson disabled? Rooney has done ****, admit it, he's scores once every few games and though those goals generally are spectacular, he can't score enough. And he's an immature Carlos*ass to boot. Silvestre is as shaky as they come in the back, and who are some kof these fringe players you have? Liam Miller?! He's played, what, two games? Bet the only thing he's good at servicing Ferguson...Ronaldo's got a bag of tricks but no sutenance (tho i admit, he does hit the post a lot), and Phil Neville is like the wimp who always hung around your group at school when everyone knew he didn't belong. You sold two Man United stalwarts in Beckham and Butt, disrespect Giggs and Scholes, until they start scoring millions of goals (no loyalty here), and buy retarded Brazilians who can't dribble their way out of a paper bag. And don't get me started on your keepers....Nice catch Carrol!!
In a nutshell, your few good buys (Ferdinand, Heinze, who is insane, and Alan Smith, who gets NO respect from you gays) are horribly outshadowed and outplayed by your many pathetic bad buys so Ferguson can appease the Directors. Plain and simple, your team is on the downfall.
Hope Van Horseface breaks leg in a freak chainsaw juggling accident. Probably wouldn't make him any uglier.
if you don't know manchester united, please don't comment like you so pro
"If I don't know Manchester United, please don't comment like your so pro"
That's your big comeback?
Oh please, you've wounded me, please stop...buddy, have I once said that Van Nistelrooy was not prolific? To underestimate one's enemies is stupid, and I realize than in Europe, there are few better than Nistelrooy. Does that mean he doesn't dive? no, he's brutal at it too. Does he still have a horse's face? damn straight. Does he still get injured too much? He's turning into Woodgate.
Rooney....you guys keep salivating over this kid like he's your holy grail, the key to Manchester United's success....puh-lease. Anyone who disrespects "Crazy Horse" Emelyn Hughes like he did in front of an international audience deserves no respect, and how come Boijinov over at Lecce can score regularly in the defensive Serie A but Rooney can't score once in three games in the Premiership? I mean, he's the "best" player to come out of Euro 2004, right?
Ok there.....Let's at least wait a few years before we drop labels on the kid...other than grandma-beater, lol.
That's your big comeback?
Oh please, you've wounded me, please stop...buddy, have I once said that Van Nistelrooy was not prolific? To underestimate one's enemies is stupid, and I realize than in Europe, there are few better than Nistelrooy. Does that mean he doesn't dive? no, he's brutal at it too. Does he still have a horse's face? damn straight. Does he still get injured too much? He's turning into Woodgate.
Rooney....you guys keep salivating over this kid like he's your holy grail, the key to Manchester United's success....puh-lease. Anyone who disrespects "Crazy Horse" Emelyn Hughes like he did in front of an international audience deserves no respect, and how come Boijinov over at Lecce can score regularly in the defensive Serie A but Rooney can't score once in three games in the Premiership? I mean, he's the "best" player to come out of Euro 2004, right?
Ok there.....Let's at least wait a few years before we drop labels on the kid...other than grandma-beater, lol.Don't quote everyone as one person.Originally posted by nik_9999
"If I don't know Manchester United, please don't comment like your so pro"
That's your big comeback?
Oh please, you've wounded me, please stop...buddy, have I once said that Van Nistelrooy was not prolific? To underestimate one's enemies is stupid, and I realize than in Europe, there are few better than Nistelrooy. Does that mean he doesn't dive? no, he's brutal at it too. Does he still have a horse's face? damn straight. Does he still get injured too much? He's turning into Woodgate.
Rooney....you guys keep salivating over this kid like he's your holy grail, the key to Manchester United's success....puh-lease. Anyone who disrespects "Crazy Horse" Emelyn Hughes like he did in front of an international audience deserves no respect, and how come Boijinov over at Lecce can score regularly in the defensive Serie A but Rooney can't score once in three games in the Premiership? I mean, he's the "best" player to come out of Euro 2004, right?
About van nistelrooy, you never said that he IS prolific. You realize that in europe there are few better than van nistelrooy? Who Henry? Ruud's record speaks for itself, even Raul never dreamed of having such a goal ratio. About his diving, once again, shows how many facts you know and how many forums/media/newspapers you read. Get you facts straight first.
Then that must be really smart comparing Bojinov to Rooney, they must be playing in exactly the same positions with exactly the same roles
. How many times do you see Bojinov helping defend in one game? And here is a stat for you Bojinov played in all 18 games for Lecce so far and scored 10 goals, while Rooney played in 17 games so far and scored 7 goals. Plus the fact that Rooney has to do more than just attack and you get your answer, why Rooney is so much better than Bojinov.Originally posted by nik_9999
"If I don't know Manchester United, please don't comment like your so pro"
That's your big comeback?
Oh please, you've wounded me, please stop...buddy, have I once said that Van Nistelrooy was not prolific? To underestimate one's enemies is stupid, and I realize than in Europe, there are few better than Nistelrooy. Does that mean he doesn't dive? no, he's brutal at it too. Does he still have a horse's face? damn straight. Does he still get injured too much? He's turning into Woodgate.
Rooney....you guys keep salivating over this kid like he's your holy grail, the key to Manchester United's success....puh-lease. Anyone who disrespects "Crazy Horse" Emelyn Hughes like he did in front of an international audience deserves no respect, and how come Boijinov over at Lecce can score regularly in the defensive Serie A but Rooney can't score once in three games in the Premiership? I mean, he's the "best" player to come out of Euro 2004, right?
this proved what you said is completely bullsh*t and how childish your are. keep insulting one of the best striker in the world doesn't make your word right, but prove how childish you are.
about rooney, he is one of the hot prospect kid in this world. we can't expect him score in every match and hat-trick in every game like he did against fenerbahce. in addition, he just 19, still a very long period for him to learn and prove himself as one of the best player in the world. if you really hate manchester united so much, please f*** off and go to support what you feel best.
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Originally posted by nik_9999
"If I don't know Manchester United, please don't comment like your so pro"
That's your big comeback?
Oh please, you've wounded me, please stop...buddy, have I once said that Van Nistelrooy was not prolific? To underestimate one's enemies is stupid, and I realize than in Europe, there are few better than Nistelrooy. Does that mean he doesn't dive? no, he's brutal at it too. Does he still have a horse's face? damn straight. Does he still get injured too much? He's turning into Woodgate.
Rooney....you guys keep salivating over this kid like he's your holy grail, the key to Manchester United's success....puh-lease. Anyone who disrespects "Crazy Horse" Emelyn Hughes like he did in front of an international audience deserves no respect, and how come Boijinov over at Lecce can score regularly in the defensive Serie A but Rooney can't score once in three games in the Premiership? I mean, he's the "best" player to come out of Euro 2004, right?
No one's salivating over Rooney. His personal life has nothing to do with his performances on the pitch. He's only 19 and he is bound to make mistakes. The fact is, that he is the most promising English player since Paul Scholes, and could go on to become a greater player. His goalscoring ratio is a problem for sure, but his overall play has been very good, especially his willingness to track back and help the defence when the need arises.
And when you posted that Manchester United should return to bringing youth players into the first team, Wes Brown, John O'Shea, Darren Fletcher, Jonathan Spector and Kieran Richardson must have slipped your mind. The class of '92 was a one-off. It'll never happen again - at any club. What are the odds of unearthing 5 great youngsters in one year? It's more probable that one or two young players will be eased into the team every season or so, and most will struggle to make the grade.
Even when the class of '92 was breaking through into the first-team, Fergie made some buys that defined Manchester United's successes in the 90s. Paul Ince, Roy Keane, Peter Schmeichel, Andrei Kanchelskis, Teddy Sheringham, Eric Cantona, Jaap Stam, Ronny Johnsen, Ole Solskjaer, Dwight Yorke, Andy Cole, etc. all played a major part in United's success, and none of them came through the youth setup.
As for bringing 'overrated' teenagers in from abroad goes, does United have any other choice? Clubs can only sign young English players who are from the local area. While this protects the smaller clubs, it also means that the big clubs have to look abroad for promising players. Hence the signings of Gerard Pique, Giuseppe Rossi and Floribert Ngalula.
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Originally posted by nik_9999
What an inspiring team you have on your hands here.
Let's see. We have Kleberson, the Brazilian who doesn't play, Djemba-Djemba, who can't defend, and Saha and Van Horseface, who can't stay healthy. You've poured millions of pounds into this team, and your best player is....Rio Ferdinand?!
What the hell have you guys been doing in the transfer market? Is Ferguson disabled? Rooney has done ****, admit it, he's scores once every few games and though those goals generally are spectacular, he can't score enough. And he's an immature Carlos*ass to boot. Silvestre is as shaky as they come in the back, and who are some kof these fringe players you have? Liam Miller?! He's played, what, two games? Bet the only thing he's good at servicing Ferguson...Ronaldo's got a bag of tricks but no sutenance (tho i admit, he does hit the post a lot), and Phil Neville is like the wimp who always hung around your group at school when everyone knew he didn't belong. You sold two Man United stalwarts in Beckham and Butt, disrespect Giggs and Scholes, until they start scoring millions of goals (no loyalty here), and buy retarded Brazilians who can't dribble their way out of a paper bag. And don't get me started on your keepers....Nice catch Carrol!!
In a nutshell, your few good buys (Ferdinand, Heinze, who is insane, and Alan Smith, who gets NO respect from you gays) are horribly outshadowed and outplayed by your many pathetic bad buys so Ferguson can appease the Directors. Plain and simple, your team is on the downfall.
Hope Van Horseface breaks leg in a freak chainsaw juggling accident. Probably wouldn't make him any uglier.
Your post is full of rubbish thats has no logic whatsoever, go and f@ck yourselves, you can break your own leg and lie bedridden forever, you faggot.
Ruud is one of the best strikers in the world, his goal-scoring records said it all. Rooney may not be scoring much and going through a lean spell, but he will get better soon and start banging in the goals too. Silvestre together with Rio have been solid in the defence for us. We have the 2nd-meanest defence after Chelski. When did we disrespect Scholes and Giggs, you tosser?
Shut the **** up and get lost, you idiot.
Ah, yes, another idiotic internet tough guyOriginally posted by nik_9999
Hope Van Horseface breaks leg in a freak chainsaw juggling accident. Probably wouldn't make him any uglier.
When you got your legs amputated hope you can still do all the smile and the bash. Seems like you`re a handicap in a wheelie tough . . .
for heaven's sake..stop all these..this is the Manchester United thread, whatever others said..we just takes it as a frustrations from them and live on with it..we should be gracious..they can say all bout our players but come to think of it, do they have what it takes to actually being a player? so just stop all these unneccessary stuff..we should concentrate on Man Utd, our live..
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so much hate in here , he just expressed his opinion ,however wrong it was no need to threaten him like that.
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CHELSEA VS MANCHESTER UNITED: MATCH PREVIEW
30 Year Record On The Line Against High-Flying Blues
United will be attempting to preserve a proud 30 year old record when they tackle Chelsea in the Football League (Carling) Cup semi-final, first leg at Stamford Bridge.
That is the time span since United’s colours were last lowered in the last four of a domestic competition. It amounts to a fantastic sequence which has seen them remain unbeaten in 16 consecutive semi-final ties in the FA & FL Cups.
Not since Colin Suggett’s goal in the Football League Cup semi-final, second leg at Carrow Road on 22 January 1975 gave Norwich City a 3-2 aggregate victory have United lost interest at the last four stage
Hope we preserve the record!
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30 Year Record On The Line Against High-Flying Blues
United will be attempting to preserve a proud 30 year old record when they tackle Chelsea in the Football League (Carling) Cup semi-final, first leg at Stamford Bridge.
That is the time span since United’s colours were last lowered in the last four of a domestic competition. It amounts to a fantastic sequence which has seen them remain unbeaten in 16 consecutive semi-final ties in the FA & FL Cups.
Not since Colin Suggett’s goal in the Football League Cup semi-final, second leg at Carrow Road on 22 January 1975 gave Norwich City a 3-2 aggregate victory have United lost interest at the last four stage
Hope we preserve the record!
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First of all, in Rooney United did not buy a finished product who is a great goal-scorer, but a potential superstar who creates and terrorises defences in other ways, such as his physical presence, his setting up of goals, etc..
Dennis Bergkamp's goal-to-game ratio at Arsenal is porrer than Rooney's at United, so perhaps we should say that the Dutch superstar is overrated? What a pile of rubbish.
Ruud does go down too easily sometimes but is nothing compared to 'I heard a noise!' Robert Pires.
I think Sir Alex's buys recently have been poor. His big buys have turned out pretty well, but his fringe buys are all below standard. I don't think Kleberson was ever fit to play in the Premiership, and Djemba-Djemba is just too crap. Miller showed potential but I feel that it would be potential not realised.
Disrespect to Giggs, Smith, Scholes? What on earth are you on?
Dennis Bergkamp's goal-to-game ratio at Arsenal is porrer than Rooney's at United, so perhaps we should say that the Dutch superstar is overrated? What a pile of rubbish.
Ruud does go down too easily sometimes but is nothing compared to 'I heard a noise!' Robert Pires.
I think Sir Alex's buys recently have been poor. His big buys have turned out pretty well, but his fringe buys are all below standard. I don't think Kleberson was ever fit to play in the Premiership, and Djemba-Djemba is just too crap. Miller showed potential but I feel that it would be potential not realised.
Disrespect to Giggs, Smith, Scholes? What on earth are you on?
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Ruud used to dive around but he hasn't in about two years.
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