shokz said:
To ignore the f*ckwits at Sky, BBC etc thats all good and all, but to ignore the club's television channel MUTV is absolute total disregard for the millions of supporters who love and adore the bloke. Surely Fergie is bigger than that? He not only disrespected Norwich today but he disrespected his own fans by shunning MUTV in my opinion. I've always been a supporter of Fergie and I do believe he should be given another season to try and turn things around, but he doesn't half piss me off at times.
Totally agree. Even snubbing Sky and BBC is pathetic, it's your job ****wit. Ben, as you probably know, I think Ferguson should have just retired and the club should have stood by it. I posted the following in the Norwich thread, but I might as well post it here...
Once ManUtd's stadium, Old Trafford, was nicknamed Theatre of Dreams. Right now it's more like Theatre of Nightmares and Horror. I've said it since Sir Alex Ferguson was due to retire, and at the time people were ****ting on me for saying it, but Sir Alex Ferguson has to go.
I don't really want to talk about the Norwich game because it doesn't stand on itself. I think we have to wonder: when was the last season that ManUtd played attractive, fast paced, attacking football? Was it something like the 2000/2001 season, or maybe 2001/2002? Seasons when we beat the likes of West Ham 7-2, when put 6 goals in Newcastle's net etc. That is the kind of football that fans want to see, that's the kind of football fans pay astranomical amounts of money for, that's the kind of football that gets you silverware, that's the kind of football ManUtd should play.
Nowadays we have to put up with lacklusture, uninspired, slow paced football, played by players who are arguably past their best (Keane, Giggs) and players who are oviously not good enough (Phil Neville, O'Shae, Kleberson, Djemba Djemba, Bellion, Carroll, Howard, Silvestre). And that isn't just this season, it's been going on for a season or three, first it was only in Europe (4-5-1 system), then it transfered to the EPL against big teams, and now we're even suffering from it against mediocre or even relegation candidates.
Where have the times gone where we saw wingers (Beckham) whip in a cross to be met by Van Nistelrooij? Where are the goals scored from midfield? Why haven't we been dangerous from set pieces for ages? We used to be awesome with corners (Sheringham) and freekicks (Beckham).
At the moment we've only got a few players who are good enough to deserve to be in the ManUtd squad or have the potential: Van Nistelrooij, Rooney, Ronaldo, Ferdinand, G. Neville, Scholes, Heinze, Solskjaer, Smith, and a few who I'm willing to give a chance: Brown, Fletcher, Miller and Saha.
I think we've got to wonder how to address this situation. Do we let a man keep his job who is responsible for and has been guilty of:
- Buying bad players (Veron, Blanc, Ricardo, Taibi, Djemba, Bellion, Forlan, Howard)
- Selling good players who arguably still had a future with the club (Stam, Beckham)
- Missing out on good players (Robben, Ronaldinho)
- Being tactically clueless at times
- Giving some rather shameful media displays
- etc, not to mention the dramatic state our youth system seems to be in.
I think we shouldn't. SAF is the one to be hailed as for bringing ManUtd back to the top and enjoying major success, but he's also the one to blame for the current state ManUtd is in. After I don't know how many years of sole control over the club it's time for him to move. ManUtd should get a big name manager to inspire the entire club. From management level right down to where it should all happens, the pitch of Old Trafford, Theatre of Dreams.
,P.Neville,Fortune,and some spanish players or turkish that Del Bosque will bring with him 
(Emre)
