Manchester United F.C Thread [2010/2011]

[ShiftyPowers]

“I might put Rafael in there,” Ferguson said. “They wouldn’t know. Their DNA is probably the same.”

Probably? It's definite. That's how identical twins work. I'm sad if this isn't common knowledge.

 

[adedawson]

Probably? It's definite. That's how identical twins work. I'm sad if this isn't common knowledge.

err that's not true... Its sad this misconception isn't common knowledge. But really, who gives a crap.

 

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Why do we even use Owen? Is it just because he needs to play to get paid and we can't let him go broke?

 

[Recrero152]

Why do we even use Owen? Is it just because he needs to play to get paid and we can't let him go broke?

I agree, Owen's just a waste. He has a good status as a footballer and I think that's probably the only reason why Ferguson's keeping him.

Great win for United today, a nice 5-0 win at home to get our goal difference up. Berbatov with a hat-trick... In this rate, he might as well stay at the top of the goal-scoring list by the end of the season. It feels like he has taken the roll Rooney had before and Rooney now being the ghost in United.

 

[Help?]

Doubt Berbatov would have scored a hat-trick had it not been for Rooney today

 

[Pogba4Now]

Funny that Berbatov scored more hattricks than Rooney has goals. Berbatov scored 3 hattricks and Rooney scored 2 goals.

That being said, Rooney made 9 assists so far this season. Even though he's not scoring, his presence is immense. He made 2 assists today. He's giving us the creativity we need in Scholes's absence.

I don't think Owen is on the so called "pay as you play" contract. These were just rumours. FM says that he gets 50, 000 a week and there are no other clauses. Why the hell would he want to stay if he was on such a contract? He hardly plays.

 

[cfdemarco]

Great performance today. Nani was getting whatever he wanted down the right wing...he got a little selfish in the second half but the game was already decided and he was just trying to get in on the action.

Rooney, even though he isn't scoring, is actually doing a lot of good out there. He makes smart runs and his little dummy runs and cheeky flicks with Berbs are delightful.

I kind of wish Scholes had come on when Carrick went off, it would've been nice to see the crafty old veterans Scholes and Giggs running amok together.

Evidently we are making up our game with Blackpool in the middle of the week, hopefully we come out with the same aggressive nature against them.

 

[Help?]

Gonna be tougher, as we are terrible away

 

[Pogba4Now]

Berbatov is like a Rolls Royce in football. Just a random thought after having watched the highlights.

 

[Mus]

Probably? It's definite. That's how identical twins work. I'm sad if this isn't common knowledge.

Its actually not, at birth they are the same but their environment alters it, its called epigenetics - quite interesting really, if you split two identical twins up at birth and grow them up in different situations they will have obvious genetic differences if you compared them later on in life

 

[ShiftyPowers]

I'm not a scientist, but from what I can glean the way genes are expressed will vary, but the underlying DNA sequence is the same. What you two are saying almost sounds like Lamarckism. I was always **** at science, so maybe I'm completely wrong.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

Qatar Holdings !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Mus]

I think, from memory that the change adds more genes onto the ends of the chromosomes in the affected areas similar to a mutation like cancer, so it would depend where the test is taken from the body?

 

[Xifio]

well, genetic markers are added onto the underlying DNA, though not changing the actual structure ... but trying to dumb down a scientific discussion into layman language is pointless ...

@Shifty: a modern addition/interpretation would make it neo-Lamarckism ... however, there is still no conclusive research in the field as of yet ... but suffice it to say, if the elephant's trunk was a genetic change caused by the accumulation of a consistent action (reaching using the nose) consistently repeated over several generations, there is something to the idea that genetic changes -- however minute -- happen over the course of an organism's lifespan, and those changes are inherited ...

and another set of questions that need to be asked, which Mus was kind of alluding to, is how a "DNA test" is actually administered, what they look for when ascertaining the results, how the accuracy of the "test" can be measured, and what developments have happened in this field ...

 

[adedawson]

o dear god what have we started

I was actually on about the fact most (all?) identical twins have different DNA however slight or larger in some cases.

"repeated splitting of cells can introduce errors in the number of copies of a given gene passed to the daughter cells."

I think that sums it up but if your really interested google copy number variant in twins.

anyway best the teams played all season. Cant wait for blackpool.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

Yeah, but it seems that identical twins who separated on Day 1 are much different from identical twins separated on Day 4. From how similar Rafael and Fabio appear I would imagine the embryo split fairly late in the process.

But whatever, my C in "Zoology 100" (the last bio class I ever took) doesn't qualify me to participate in a serious discussion on this topic.

 

[Help?]

Nor do we probably want one in this thread

 

[Mus]

Anyway, there's nothing stopping them doing another switcheroo immediately after the game before they are pinged and made to take the test

 

[darkvajo]

hey man i'ma MUFC fan too so u can add me to the list if u want

 

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Its amazing how different we are away from home


In the better news, we don't have to listen to Andy Gray any longer.