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Have EA learned anything?

TheDarkKnight87

Club Supporter
Here are the features on the official 2005 site:
Key Features
· Master the First Touch like the sport?s greatest players
· Added Gameplay Depth, through a massively improved Off the Ball? control
· Absolute Broadcast look and feel
· Immersive Environments, with authentic crowd chants, various weather conditions
· The World?s Ultimate Roster: More than 350 official licenses, including 20 leagues, 40 national teams, and 15,000players are available.

Now: 1.Is a new feature...nothing bad about that..
2. Gameplay depth using OTB? i think that FIFA`s problems are when you're ON THE BALL and defending... :/
3,4,5 have no effect on gameplay...

So...out of 5 features, only 2 are gameplay related, out of which one won't make much of a difference...
Now don't think i'm a FIFA basher...yes, it's true, i've been playing PES 3 for PC since it came out...BUT i've been playing FIFA since RTWC: 98...i want FIFA to become what it once was...but it seems that 2005 will not bring this about :(
 

ishan1990

Senior Squad
i would agree, however just look at the first feature. I think that is VITAL.
I think that was what was missing from previous fifas. If done right it'll make the gameplay a whole lot better.
I think that when pes fans compare the game to fifa, this is the main thing they are comparing. First touch is what is great in pes.

However, if fifa really wants to make a great game they have to add more dribbling like pes. I dont just mean moves. In pes they have a longer dribble (longer than a sprint) and a normal dribble and a small controlled dribble. The players top speed is the same except that the player pushes the ball out further.Just things like that. And lots of detail will only improve the game.
About the broadcast feature, i think it will do great in the game. I saw a vid of it in action, and it looks awesome.
 

ishan1990

Senior Squad
i mean that they should have all the options pes has and more.

Perhaps the sprint button should be context sensitive? that means that if you press it in less you wont go as fast. Maybe same thing with the movement, w/ anologe stick?
 

modena_10

Senior Squad
i wont believe EA have learned until i see it, so ill have to wait to fifa 2005

its not like im not gonna buy the game, im gonna buy it the second they are put on the shelves
 

Victorious

Reserve Team
Hmm looking at the screenshots, I notice one thing - There is way to much space. There is so to much one on one action happening and we all know, that unless you pass it, the defender will always win it, hence, the game becoming more and more predictable. The game needs to be cramped up a bit more like in real BUT only if the first touch system is perfected. It would make for a lot more creativity in making your own space, beating multiple defenders etc.
 

the twin

Club Supporter
Just remember- with EA its not about making the best game, its about making money. They probably already have the gameplay engine prepared for 2010
 

ishan1990

Senior Squad
Originally posted by AbAdAbE
Hmm looking at the screenshots, I notice one thing - There is way to much space. There is so to much one on one action happening and we all know, that unless you pass it, the defender will always win it, hence, the game becoming more and more predictable. The game needs to be cramped up a bit more like in real BUT only if the first touch system is perfected. It would make for a lot more creativity in making your own space, beating multiple defenders etc.

I always felt TOO cramped up in previous fifas.....
 

AndrewC

Youth Team
The first touch thing should be huge for the gameplay. but they shouldn't stop there. They should tweak the physics, but most importantly IMO the players should move around the pitch better. Previous titles felt so static and I always had to send a player on a run myself which lead to repetition.
 

DC_NUFC

Youth Team
I personally think its gonna be their best game ever. I can't really compare it to PES hence I've never played it and don't want to. I have trusted ea alot and although they may have dissappointed me last year a little I think they have got it right
 

Pontiakos

Starting XI
I think that until the marginalized gamers....


africans
Russians
Serbians
Greeks
Israelis
Turks
those angry over AI


start boycotting this game.....nothing will change

DON'T BUY THE GAME!!!!!!......... this year it is projected that Konami will blow EA out of the water........:rockman: :rockman: :rockman: :rockman:

EA will stop making FIFA bc it no longer provides them with revenue.....

Konami will acquire the rights to all the teams.....

and FINALLY the perfect football game will exist......
 

J_J_Okocha

Youth Team
Originally posted by Pontiakos
I think that until the marginalized gamers....


africans
Russians
Serbians
Greeks
Israelis
Turks
those angry over AI


start boycotting this game.....nothing will change

DON'T BUY THE GAME!!!!!!......... this year it is projected that Konami will blow EA out of the water........:rockman: :rockman: :rockman: :rockman:

EA will stop making FIFA bc it no longer provides them with revenue.....

Konami will acquire the rights to all the teams.....

and FINALLY the perfect football game will exist......

boycott haha fifa is great so :f***:
 

untouchable

Senior Squad
[RANT] EA will never learn. They will continue to churn out beautiful looking games that entertain u for a week then gets old. They always do the same crap every year. Hype it up, add one or two new features, then the next year remove those features and add new ones. They're so freakin' stupid... Why not build upon previous games and add features every year? Instead of trying to rebuild it over and over? They will never make a good football game, EVER...[/RANT]

No I'm not a PES troll, but I've been playing fifa games since the '97 version so I've watched how the series has progressed. They will never match Konami in raw gameplay though because they dont seem to understand the basic concept of football...
 

Dimony

Club Supporter
Originally posted by Pontiakos
I think that until the marginalized gamers....


africans
Russians
Serbians
Greeks
Israelis
Turks
those angry over AI


start boycotting this game.....nothing will change

DON'T BUY THE GAME!!!!!!......... this year it is projected that Konami will blow EA out of the water........:rockman: :rockman: :rockman: :rockman:

EA will stop making FIFA bc it no longer provides them with revenue.....

Konami will acquire the rights to all the teams.....

and FINALLY the perfect football game will exist......


LOLOL:) Noone buys the game in Russia or Ukraine anyway. I dunno about other countries u say byt in those 2.... U can pretty much buy any game (pirated version of course) for about 1.25$ american. As for real versions reproduced officially by local companies they only come in a CD case(nicely pakaged however with proof of purchase and the little tiny game booklets) they are sold for around 5$ US.
:)
So i highly doubt EA is making much money there. One of the reasons i think no teams have been inluded since the 99 edition.
 
Well, the new features in 2005 that have to do with gameplay nay only be two, but they are two very important features. Seeing how many reviews are saying that FIFA is better than PES, Im hoping for the best. I think the fact the requests were sent to EA right after euro2004 had a big effect on the game.
 

ngyc

Fan Favourite
i think theres is only way to let them learn. stop buy their products. once their sales heavily lose to KONAMI, they will learned. trust me...:D
 

n_t_a_l_e_x

Reserve Team
Ea still will be the first in football sim, cause it has online and low specs.
Doesn’t matter what kind of game will be released – fifa 2005 – 2010.
Until konami realize how important online feature is – ea always will be preferable (well, not for me anymore).
 

MightyTic

Senior Squad
gameplay is what its all about a PES4 out 4thQ PC Xbox and PS2 is where its at!


even more player animation , even (though just a bit ) players bodies twist for better turns and so on!

As for real names ( edit ) Spain Italy and Holland are all now licenced but all the faces are there anyway and the rest of it strips faces can be edited or mod's made..


The gameplay is simply thebest!
 


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