everyone knows konami's gameplay beats fifa in almost every aspect hands down, just read reviews in serious magazines about pc- and videogames, which rate pes/we always higher than fifa, because of the gameplay, which IS in fact the most important thing in a sports game. it's just funny, how shaft, working for EA, try to convince people to give fifa another chance->see, it has been tested by many people and it's better than 2004, but still miles away from pes. the great advantage of pes/we is that situations ingame never happen twice or more times in exactly the same way in contrast to fifa. the other thing is that there are millions of possibilities to score goals: it's even possible to score with the goalkeeper (when u're one goal behind, u're keeper is sometimes attacking at corners, which makes even this possible); scoring by curled corners is possible as well (happened once to me )