FIFA "GAMEPLAY UPDATE" 06 - Next release.

[Comma]

Hello NK,

I have a couple questions. First of all, would it be ok to use your gameplay update as a GUIDE to making my own? This would be for my own personal use, and never released. Probably because I'm going to give up in like 2 days because I dont know what I'm doing and your new patch is coming out soon. And from the video, everything I thought should be adjusted looks like it has. Star players act like star players, and goalies actually make saves if they are good. I'm sure they can be beaten easily, but getting shots on goal looks much harder also. So less chances means less goals, which I like. And you didnt lose by 3 or 4 cause every shot on target went in for the cpu, which was my only gripe with the first release.

Secondly, would i have to edit things in both the config.dat AND the ini.big for them to take effect? Or is it just one or the other? And where can I find gdata.h? I read in the ai.ini file that this gdata.h explains what all the goalie jargin means. So finding that would be much help. And where are shot parameters kept? I mean the lines that affect accuracy and strength and things like that.

There were a couple more, but I dont remember them right now. I will post them as i continue to work on the tweaks.
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[avok23]

dude this isnt cpu v cpu

 

[avok23]

to be honest i cant really judge this but i will commend you defensce. good marking in the midfield but imo you playing the game with little or no gusto. attimes u werent event trying especially in the attacking 3rd. i also notice the cpu players were terrible crossers i dont remember seeing any crosses hitting their mark ecept for the 2nd goal cos u defended crapily again! you only managed 6 tackles they had 26 or so.

pros:
good cpu passes
great cpu awareness
good cpu defending

cons:
bad crossing
dida was too good so i assume the keepers are still a bit super.
physics. bab fligth still too fifaish. crosses drop too late corners drop to early.
good positioning but where where the brazilian side backs?


cpu v cpu would have given us an excellent chance to compare players to their real life counterparts.

dude this is just too motivate so pls dont flame me

 

[nickclubman]

attimes u werent event trying especially in the attacking 3rd. i also notice the cpu players were terrible crossers i dont remember seeing any crosses hitting their mark ecept for the 2nd goal cos u defended crapily again! you only managed 6 tackles they had 26 or so.

Wait til you play the final version, attacking isn't easy.

There will be changes here and there, ball physics, CPU etc. The video isn't from anything that will be released, it's what to expect. I am aware of certain areas that need work.

Thanks for the feedback,
NK.

 

[exerslow]

I'm not trying to pile on your gameplay with more criticism, but after watching those halves last ight I didn't see too many vast improvements.

The Golaie kicked farther for sure, but in all your offense seemed vanilla. There were just as manby opportunities as in the regular FIFA (or that should have been created) but you just didn't. I saw many instances where I would have made passes to unlock the defence but for whtever reason you did not. It didn't seem like the defending was that good, just you weren't determined going forward. There was no build up.

Too me (just my opinion), overall it looked just like it does when I play a top flight team in a final of chamipons league or whatnot. That and the speed was normal? I think the default speed it too high (I play on normal but would like to try a slower speed). Is your gameplay always on normal speed or just for the video?

I'm going to have to try a few of these gameplays since my last career was ruined and I have to start over anyway

Keep up the experimenting, which values make the keeper punt/kick farther?

thanks,
Dave

 

[nickclubman]

I'm not trying to pile on your gameplay with more criticism, but after watching those halves last ight I didn't see too many vast improvements.

The Golaie kicked farther for sure, but in all your offense seemed vanilla. There were just as manby opportunities as in the regular FIFA (or that should have been created) but you just didn't. I saw many instances where I would have made passes to unlock the defence but for whtever reason you did not. It didn't seem like the defending was that good, just you weren't determined going forward. There was no build up.

Too me (just my opinion), overall it looked just like it does when I play a top flight team in a final of chamipons league or whatnot. That and the speed was normal? I think the default speed it too high (I play on normal but would like to try a slower speed). Is your gameplay always on normal speed or just for the video?

I'm going to have to try a few of these gameplays since my last career was ruined and I have to start over anyway

Keep up the experimenting, which values make the keeper punt/kick farther?

thanks,
Dave

That was quite a depressing post Dave! Believe me it is harder to just go all-out attack as the CPU do close down much better than before. And to not see improvements may be because you haven't played it yet. As I have said before, there's still work to be done.

Thanks for the feedback,
NK.

 

[MagicaRoma]

I'm going to have to try a few of these gameplays since my last career was ruined and I have to start over anyway

NK: When the new gameplay is out and I'll choose to install the CEP-compatible one, do I have to start a new career like Exerslow experienced or can I continue the one I'm playing now without fear of freezing, crashing etc?

Cheers & keep up the good work!

 

[nickclubman]

NK: When the new gameplay is out and I'll choose to install the CEP-compatible one, do I have to start a new career like Exerslow experienced or can I continue the one I'm playing now without fear of freezing, crashing etc?

Cheers & keep up the good work!

You will be able to continue your career as normal except with my latest gameplay

NK.

 

[MagicaRoma]

You will be able to continue your career as normal except with my latest gameplay

NK.

With latest you mean the one that's on the sweetpatch site at the moment or do you mean the one that's not yet available? I got kind of confused... :fool:

 

[nickclubman]

With latest you mean the one that's on the sweetpatch site at the moment or do you mean the one that's not yet available? I got kind of confused... :fool:

You asked 'when the new gameplay is out' right? Haha.

:fool: < you.

Just kidding.
NK.

 

[MagicaRoma]

I still feel like a confused muppet .

I try to formulate my question better:"When your latest update will come out, can I install it and go on with my career or do I have to start a career all over from scratch?"

Thanx for your endless patience with me!

 

[nickclubman]

I refuse to answer again! haha.


I'm just tweaking with the ball physics at the moment, I'm hoping to make it much better, more so than what is shown in the video's.
NK.

 

[avok23]

u dont need to restart. why not try first

 

[MagicaRoma]

why not try first

Because the irriversibility of events that eventually will be set in motion by the trying itself might cause permanent damage to the nostalgic perseverance of the career creator himself and will consequently effect the valuation given to this specific career in question, moving it into a downward spiral.

 

[nickclubman]

Because the irriversibility of events that eventually will be set in motion by the trying itself might cause permanent damage to the nostalgic perseverance of the career creator himself and will consequently effect the valuation given to this specific career in question, moving it into a downward spiral.

Here's a pen, here's some paper! Go write a book.

Good vocab you got there.
NK.

 

[avok23]

all he said was "irrevesibilty", my dear friend do not be fool by the exhuberance of his verbarsity. he simply uses it as a cloak to conceal his confusion.

dude make a back up of your career then try. god why are you wasting every bodies time and slowing NK down? this is not even the thread for tht particular post

 

[exerslow]

Hey Nick,

I wasn't trying to just bash your gameplay, and as I said I can only judge from the video as I have not tried your gameplay nor anyone else's for that matter. However, I do play a lot of games and watching your video, I saw a number of opportunities to unlock the defence that it seemed like you just didn't take, not that the defence was closing you down so fast.

This is not meant as an attack, just my impression. Keep experimenting however as I will try the gameplay soon and then I'll have a better idea. I'm not trying to deter or depress you in any way and I'm sorry if that was the effect. We all want a better gameplay.

Are you going to lower the gamespeed as some others have done?
You never did respond on what values effect keeper punt/kick distance?

Thanks,
Dave

 

[exerslow]

And jusyt to clarify, someone above swanted to know if installing the new gameplay would crash their career like I did mine.....my career crash had nothing to do with adding a gameplay or the CEP, as I've installed neither. I managed to ruiin it with something I've yet to figure out but surmise that it has to do with the transfer problem exacerbated by the CEP with stock career.ini settings, but which also exists under an original fresh-installed FIFA06 as well.

To clarify, my crash is not related to Nicks gameplay.

Dave

 

[KULCAT]

NK, 2 questions
-When is your new patch coming out?
-Does it make any difference that install it prior or after is install the CEP?

Maybe this has been answered before, if that so i apologyse, i jus dont have the time to read the whole thread

 

[Comma]

NK, 2 questions
Does it make any difference that install it prior or after is install the CEP?

I believe it does make a difference if you install the gameplay before installing cep, because cep will overwrite the config.bat to change some career settings. Im not sure what else it would overwrite, but it is definitely safer to install AFTER you install cep.

The order i followed was in this thread:
http://www.soccergaming.tv/showthread.php?t=130007
It doesnt have to be exact, just make a point to install cep before you start installing other graphical and gameplay(ical) patches.

Cheers
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