FIFA "GAMEPLAY UPDATE" 06 - Next release.

[OckHAM]

I think MagicaRoma was asking if the gameplay distribuited had or not this crashing problem: no it has not
Nick, if I can give you my opinion I don't think is a good idea to make your gamplay HARDER: believe me, is hard enough now and would not be fun to loose ALWAYS against CPU; i think you should focus maybe with some specific tasks requested by feedback: for example a tuning of headers (very little, a really like as they are now). For the rest this gameplay seems really definitive without needing of further changes that can alter the wonderful balance you found.

 

[MagicaRoma]

I think MagicaRoma was asking if the gameplay distribuited had or not this crashing problem: no it has not
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Yep, that's what I meant, cheers! I'll try our the new gameplay then, even if it's only half as good as people here say, it still must be great!

 

[Leftos]

Agreed with OckHAM, I thought I had mastered the Semi Pro level (yeah, I'm a rookie), but now I'm almost getting my ass kicked! If it gets even harder, I'm seeing myself going Amateur. It's quite challenging as it is, trust me.

 

[avok23]

freekicks crash simply bcos there is too much spin on it. i leanrt the hard way after toying with the physics abit too much. readjust ball resistance and spin mulitplier/effect.

if you look in the fifa edit section you would find an old gameplay patch of mine tht let you do a rcarlos curve (like the one against france) but the the game randomly crashes.

 

[Sundsvall]

ive got some problems after installing your gameplay.

first of all,the spain flag changed to a diffrent flag when you whant to play with them.when you chose language for the game,the mexico flag appears instead of the spanish.when you complete a challange,you dont get any points to buy etc 3rd kits for(winning against classic XI,win on penalties etc).also my career i played with crashed,so i need to start a new one,that problem doesnt appear with other gameplays,so i thought it was pretty bad...i saw you could chose swedish language too,is that after installing your gameplay?

 

[OckHAM]

I think you downloaded the NK gameplay suited for CEP from CEP site, Alex:

1) spain flag is a CEP problem, will be fixed.
2) spanish language "flag" is a CEP modification to allow mexican users to have mexican version too.
3) dunno about the challenges, I'll take a look.
4) gameplay modifies career settings so maybe this is the cause of crashing; I think anyway that you started your career before CEP installation or before CEP fix installation.
4) swedish language is due to CEP.

So NK gameplay is not related at all with these points.

 

[nickclubman]

thanks for clearing that up OckHAM, I can say too that my gameplay update does nothing at all with the problems you encountered. Plus OckHAM has changed some of the physics slightly to his preference, which I allowed! Yes, I am very kind LOL.

Cheers man.
NK.

 

[Sundsvall]

thanks ockham for the info the gameplay is very nice too

 

[Comma]

First of all, very nice gameplay, and quite challenging too. But, would it be possible to slow down the speed of the game slightly? It seems that with everyone converging on you its very hard to get things setup in time. Maybe thats just me, but I prefer billy's gameplay in this aspect.

Also, and I dont know if this is a problem that I have, or if its gameplay related, but when I have a break away I like to use the right stick to send the ball ahead of me. But when its not straight on to the keeper, and I use the right stick, there are very sudden movements to the left or right. I mean, even if i flick the right stick to the bottom right, the guy will play the ball to his immediate right, at a 90 deg. angle. When that happens, I almost always lose the ball, and certainly my breakaway. Is there anything that can be done about that?

The last things has to do with physics, which I am certain have been discussed. I've only noticed this during a couple of games, which I thought was weird, but none-the-less, I encounter GAMES (it seems to occur the whole game, but its doesnt happen every game) in which the pass and first touches seem to go really fast when first struck, then slow down like in mud. Almost like having to kick in really tall grass that hasnt been cut in a couple of months. It's just kinda annoying.

I'm not sure if it makes a difference, but I think its worth noting, that this is the version that I downloaded from the CEP website. Any suggestions on how to tackle these problems would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
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[Comma]

So after testing other gameplay tweaks like Billy's and spending hours upon hours in practice mode, I have come to the conclusion that the thing with the first touch is my fault. And consequently, I have corrected it.

But, I have another question. Is it possible to ever hld the cpu to a clean sheet? I mean, I have argueably the best keeper in the world in Iker Casillas, and people the likes of Leister City put a 2 spot up on him. On rediculous 30 feet and great shots. Is it possible for him to stop everything in a given game? I'm not asking for him to be invincible, because as we all know, he's far from it. But strikers and midfielders on Leister City should not be able to put something like that by him. Odd thing is, he was in position on both, but never reacted in time. He made a couple of highlight reel saves throughout the match, but let these two prayers go in. Please dont take this as me wanting Casillas to stop everything leister city has to offer, but rather me wanting to give up hard goals, earned goals. Not just something they shot from 40 feet becuase I kept crushing any attempt to attack.

Cheers again
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[Billy1969]

So after testing other gameplay tweaks like Billy's and spending hours upon hours in practice mode, I have come to the conclusion that the thing with the first touch is my fault. And consequently, I have corrected it.

But, I have another question. Is it possible to ever hld the cpu to a clean sheet? I mean, I have argueably the best keeper in the world in Iker Casillas, and people the likes of Leister City put a 2 spot up on him. On rediculous 30 feet and great shots. Is it possible for him to stop everything in a given game? I'm not asking for him to be invincible, because as we all know, he's far from it. But strikers and midfielders on Leister City should not be able to put something like that by him. Odd thing is, he was in position on both, but never reacted in time. He made a couple of highlight reel saves throughout the match, but let these two prayers go in. Please dont take this as me wanting Casillas to stop everything leister city has to offer, but rather me wanting to give up hard goals, earned goals. Not just something they shot from 40 feet becuase I kept crushing any attempt to attack.

Cheers again
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That was my biggest gripe vs. the original Fifa06 gameplay, I almost played frisbee with the DVD when I saw in RL slow defenders catch up with a broken through Shevchenko or Henry, the keepers of the fourth division saving shots from Ibrahimovic and Cech getting beaten by John Doe like if it was nothing. NK's gameplay is 100 times better than original fifa gameplay in every aspect, save the unreal difficulty, which it brings back.

I played some matches with it but not enough to give a final judgement, I put mine back because I started working on version 1.1, but first impressions is that this gameplay mod is for the very skilled player, not for the casual one.

 

[OckHAM]

I have to disagree with notations on game difficulty: I'm enjoying greatly Fifa now because for example, with not an huge effort, but of course playing well, I can win easily enough and playing a better football against small teams, while playing against four and five star is a real battle; and I like to don't have hope, just to defend and pray, if I'm playing with a very small team against a giant

Keepers seem to me tuned very well too.

 

[dipstikz]

The last things has to do with physics, which I am certain have been discussed. I've only noticed this during a couple of games, which I thought was weird, but none-the-less, I encounter GAMES (it seems to occur the whole game, but its doesnt happen every game) in which the pass and first touches seem to go really fast when first struck, then slow down like in mud. Almost like having to kick in really tall grass that hasnt been cut in a couple of months. It's just kinda annoying.

This is pretty much only what I have a problem with also

 

[nickclubman]

This is pretty much only what I have a problem with also

click here for original This version is NOT compatible with CEP, but the physics don't have the passing/gravity issue. This is because the CEP version has more ball gravity and faster horizontal ball speeds but the air resistance is still pretty high, so the pass is quick, but then it slowed down through the resistance. The original version, I believe is a slower game, with less pace.

I personally prefer my own version, but I allowed OckHAM to use his prefered physics for CEP due to ball gravity that he wasn't happy with in mine. For future updates, it'll be 'take it as it is', which will hopefully be fine the way it is without the need to edit what I create. It takes a long time to find a balance and changing a few numbers can cause problems, i.e. Passing going fast to slow.

Keeping in mind OckHAM has the best interests in my update, and I personally believe my new update will be much, much better. Especially in terms of ball physics. Goal keeper drop kicks go eeeasily into the oposing teams half now, unlike before.

I have also made it more challenging. My update is for the skilled player, and the pace of the game WILL be slower. Not to blow my own trumpet...but I think you guys are in for a treat *starts editing again*

NK.

 

[Comma]

click here for original This version is NOT compatible with CEP, but the physics don't have the passing/gravity issue. This is because the CEP version has more ball gravity and faster horizontal ball speeds but the air resistance is still pretty high, so the pass is quick, but then it slowed down through the resistance. The original version, I believe is a slower game, with less pace.

I personally prefer my own version, but I allowed OckHAM to use his prefered physics for CEP due to ball gravity that he wasn't happy with in mine. For future updates, it'll be 'take it as it is', which will hopefully be fine the way it is without the need to edit what I create. It takes a long time to find a balance and changing a few numbers can cause problems, i.e. Passing going fast to slow.

Keeping in mind OckHAM has the best interests in my update, and I personally believe my new update will be much, much better. Especially in terms of ball physics. Goal keeper drop kicks go eeeasily into the oposing teams half now, unlike before.

I have also made it more challenging. My update is for the skilled player, and the pace of the game WILL be slower. Not to blow my own trumpet...but I think you guys are in for a treat *starts editing again*

NK.

Then I cannot wait for the release, which I assume will be completely compatible with CEP without any ockham editing. A little humility would serve that gentleman quite nicely, as he seems he can do no wrong, and neither can anything he creates.

On a related side note, any news on whether i should waste money on buying a good keeper, just so he can be beat with busch league shots? Or would something like this be changed so skill of the keeper will play at least some part in scoring a goal. Thanks!

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[OckHAM]

Then I cannot wait for the release, which I assume will be completely compatible with CEP without any ockham editing. A little humility would serve that gentleman quite nicely, as he seems he can do no wrong, and neither can anything he creates.

What the crap are you writing?! Moderate your language and don't do the idiot.

 

[nickclubman]

Then I cannot wait for the release, which I assume will be completely compatible with CEP without any ockham editing. A little humility would serve that gentleman quite nicely, as he seems he can do no wrong, and neither can anything he creates.

On a related side note, any news on whether i should waste money on buying a good keeper, just so he can be beat with busch league shots? Or would something like this be changed so skill of the keeper will play at least some part in scoring a goal. Thanks!

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CEP is separate from my work. I don't create my update to be default compatible with any other patch-related download. However, if my next update is to be put into CEP, it will be how it is, not different from the download on my site. This keeps it fair on my behalf for it feels as though it is my update in its full form and not edited for user preference. In any case, the update would have to remain how it was when installed by the user.

That way you are playing the NK FOOTBALL "GAMEPLAY UPDATE" and not an edited version, despite how small the change. I want feedback on my update, not one that has been edited. It causes confusion when gamers don't specify which version they have. I'm sticking to it in the future.

I don't want to sound mean or stubborn. But I do put a lot of work in the update and would appreciate it to remain how it was when downloaded. It just feels right that way. Since it was my first attempt, I didn't mind this time

Thanks,
NK.

p.s. In any case I appreciate OckHAM for putting my update into CEP and allowing other gamers to experience my gameplay. He has the best interests.

 

[OckHAM]

I agree with you NK, really: CEP compatibily is given ONLY by career.ini settings that you have to add inside your config.dat: because I don't think that career.ini settings are part of your work on gameplay you can freely use the career.ini of CEP to make your gameplay compatible and every download will be forwarded to your dl location.

I'd like to receivo no free offences from users, especially in thread different from mine, or I'll have to contact a moderator (again).

 

[nickclubman]

I agree with you NK, really: CEP compatibily is given ONLY by career.ini settings that you have to add inside your config.dat: because I don't think that career.ini settings are part of your work on gameplay you can freely use the career.ini of CEP to make your gameplay compatible and every download will be forwarded to your dl location.

I'd like to receivo no free offences from users, especially in thread different from mine, or I'll have to contact a moderator (again).

If you wish to send me the career.ini file, I will happily make my update CEP compatible right from the get-go

Take care,
NK.

 

[Comma]

What the crap are you writing?! Moderate your language and don't do the idiot.

I apologize ockham, but this is what I am talking about. It was in no way a 'slam' persay, just a suggestion. I enjoy your cep and many other things you have done. But you talk to use like you can do no wrong, and quite honestly, by changing somethings in NK's gameplay patch, you have done very wrong. Someone said earlier, that if you make things, you make it for other people and not necessariyl for yourself. Therefore you must 'pander' (in a sense) to them. Not, take it as it is and like it. Just an opinion, I dont want an arguement. And I apologize again that you found thing I said offensive as it was not meant to be.

I would also like to apologize to NK for hijacking his thread. Im sorry I did not make it clear that I was using the patch form the cep website, although it was not made clear to me that it was a modified version of your own. Maybe this is very simple, but I dont quite understand how your original patch was not compatible with cep?

Sorry again to all
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