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FIFA 14 Better Career Patch

mudry

Club Supporter
@fifaCCitiu.com I'm not stupid. He got -9 (in this video -7) in Marking for example. I deleted this career but I started another career and after sim 8 matches look at this... Sorry for Polish menus but I hope you can understand it by "places" of skills in squad report. I recorded this after editing playergrowth and regenerating it. I tried to change two values:
Code:
PLAYERGROWTH_NEGATIVE_FACTOR
MAX_MONTHLY_ATTRIB_NEG_GROWTH
I tried to edit it in two ways:
increase both values to
Code:
PLAYERGROWTH_NEGATIVE_FACTOR 9
MAX_MONTHLY_ATTRIB_NEG_GROWTH -9
and it doesn't change anything
I also decreased both values to
Code:
PLAYERGROWTH_NEGATIVE_FACTOR 0,001
MAX_MONTHLY_ATTRIB_NEG_GROWTH -0,001
and it doesn't works too.
I think that editing this file doesn't works. I always regenerate with File Master after editing this file.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_gRqvJuI30

I also posted it on EA Forum. Here is link.
http://forum.ea.com/uk/posts/list/2682981.page#29146092
Can someone fix it?
 

mudry

Club Supporter
@fifaCCitiu.com so what can you tell about this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_gRqvJuI30

I made new career and I sim 8 matches. As you can see in the video Puyol have excellent form and have 79 OVR...
-7 Marking, -6 Standing Tackle, -6 Sliding Tackle.

Editing playergrowth doesn't work for me, I think.
I'm editing 2 lines of this file:
Code:
PLAYERGROWTH_NEGATIVE_FACTOR
MAX_MONTHLY_ATTRIB_NEG_GROWTH
I tried to edit it in two ways.
First I changed it to:
Code:
PLAYERGROWTH_NEGATIVE_FACTOR = 9
MAX_MONTHLY_ATTRIB_NEG_GROWTH = -9
and it doesn't change ANYTHING.
Then I changed it to:
Code:
PLAYERGROWTH_NEGATIVE_FACTOR = 0,001
MAX_MONTHLY_ATTRIB_NEG_GROWTH = -0,001
and it doesn't change ANYTHING too.
Always after editing this file I've regenerated files with File Master and started new career. I think that editing this file doesn't works. But whole patch works.

PS. Without editing this file it's happens the same.
 

JHoliness

Club Supporter
Yeah, the stat decrease with aging needs tweaking. Players still drop stats insanely fast. I simulated the same amount of time as mudry with Barcelona and:
Valdes -2
Xavi -4
Puyol -5
 

BlackEmperor

Youth Team
When I simulate a season, the OVR of old players decreases by a big amount. E.g. I'm playing as Stuttgart, Cacau's OVR dropped from 77 to 74 during the season.

However, when I actually play the games and score goals with those players and maintain a great form with them, they may lose some points on attributes, but they do not lose OVR points. In the season I've played myself, Cacau stayed at 77, he only dropped to 75 at the beginning of the next season.

So I think simulating matches and starting new seasons are not affected by these statements.
 

mudry

Club Supporter
@BlackEmperor but I simulated this only for a video. In my career Puyol had 78 and Xavi 85 in November 2013. And in career I play every single game.
 

BlackEmperor

Youth Team
I see, perhaps I was just lucky or so then. Another player, Haggui, always lost 2 OVR points in the first season but when during the season where I've played every game, he didn't lose any OVR. And that's despite him sitting on the bench most of the time.
 

beta990

Reserve Team
Hello guys!

As first I want to say sorry about all the problems with the mod this year. It seems that EA just don't like modding the game this year, so things aren't going that well as it should. :(

But I have some good news: I finally managed to simulate over <2019 with no crashes at all. :)
I hope this will remain, but as stated above, you will never known till a crash occur. Also done some fixes and done some user-requests.

A big thanks goes out to the ModdingWay team. Their (hard) work, resulted in an updated game and other stuff (kits, tournaments, teams, transfers, etc.). I'm now moving to ModdingWay Mod as default base, where my tweaks work up-on. I also don't replace any file inside ModdingWay, to keep it as clean as possible.

Tested setup:
Latest (clean) FIFA 14 Origin, with all updates
ModdingWay Mod 0.9.5
Using their latest 2.0 database with Matrix and Career Mode Tournaments.
Installed my mod and regenerated with FHL-BH-Editor.
SOAK-game till <2019

Download:
You can find an Installer on my first post. You can also use the Installer for manual installation: just choose a different install location, copy the files you want, uninstall. :)

Will this mod change again??
No, I have tested a lot of different setups (releases) and believed this is the most stable setup. I'm planning to maintain this mod in a way updates will be easier to install and doesn't give problems after new releases. For a good start, it maybe wisely to start with a clean install.
 

JHoliness

Club Supporter
beta990;3583093 said:
Hello guys!

As first I want to say sorry about all the problems with the mod this year. It seems that EA just don't like modding the game this year, so things aren't going that well as it should. :(

But I have some good news: I finally managed to simulate over <2019 with no crashes at all. :)
I hope this will remain, but as stated above, you will never known till a crash occur. Also done some fixes and done some user-requests.

A big thanks goes out to the ModdingWay team. Their (hard) work, resulted in an updated game and other stuff (kits, tournaments, teams, transfers, etc.). I'm now moving to ModdingWay Mod as default base, where my tweaks work up-on. I also don't replace any file inside ModdingWay, to keep it as clean as possible.

Tested setup:
Latest (clean) FIFA 14 Origin, with all updates
ModdingWay Mod 0.9.5
Using their latest 2.0 database with Matrix and Career Mode Tournaments.
Installed my mod and regenerated with FHL-BH-Editor.
SOAK-game till <2019

Download:
You can find an Installer on my first post. You can also use the Installer for manual installation: just choose a different install location, copy the files you want, uninstall. :)

Will this mod change again??
No, I have tested a lot of different setups (releases) and believed this is the most stable setup. I'm planning to maintain this mod in a way updates will be easier to install and doesn't give problems after new releases. For a good start, it maybe wisely to start with a clean install.

Awesome news beta990! I think this is a good move to base your mod around ModdingWay's. I appreciate all the work you're putting into this, although some issue arise (thanks to EA) it's great to see you still trying to fix them and improve the career mode as best you can :)
 

mudry

Club Supporter
I still have a problem with negative grown. Now I changed this two values to 0 and it is working okay. In 2018 Xavi have 90 OVR. In my team everything is okay but in CPU teams problem still appears. Ibra have only 80 OVR. But thanks for your work! I really appreciate that you giving us your time. I modded players retiring which is awesome. Pirlo have excellent form, and he is 38 yrs old.

I started new career with PSG. In my team everything is okay, after first season Ibra 89, Alex 81 etc. But after one season older players in cpu teams have big drops.
Pirlo 77
Di Natale 69
Sagna 76
Abiatti 66
Drogba 72
Totti 67
Lampard 67
Buffon 77
Mark Schwarzer 59(!)
Klose 67
Anelka 69
Puyol 69
Ferdinand 67
Etc.

Any ideas how we can fix it? I can't find anything in playergrowth.ini

PS. I saw, that you, beta990 before release updated patch you also changed this two values from 0.125 to 0.05 but it doesn't have any effect. I think that in this two lines of playergrowth.ini you have to put only "full" number e.g. 1, 2, 3, 5, 10. I think that FIFA "can't" read the decimals. :\
 

sheva_70

Club Supporter
beta990;3580949 said:
Thanks, will add this to the todo list. Hope to find a solution soon. :)
Hi Beta 990,
Have you news ?
When I play a career and I look at the jobs, I have always the same league that recruits (Premier League, Serie A, Bundesliga, BBVA, Ligue 1).
What should tweak to get offers from Russia, Switzerland, Brazil, Korea, Ligue2 ?
Which file should I edit?

If you know someone who could help me?

Best Regards
 

beta990

Reserve Team
JHoliness;3583099 said:
Awesome news beta990! I think this is a good move to base your mod around ModdingWay's. I appreciate all the work you're putting into this, although some issue arise (thanks to EA) it's great to see you still trying to fix them and improve the career mode as best you can :)
Thanks. :)

It's a learning process, will try to improve it. :)

mudry;3583128 said:
I still have a problem with negative grown. Now I changed this two values to 0 and it is working okay. In 2018 Xavi have 90 OVR. In my team everything is okay but in CPU teams problem still appears. Ibra have only 80 OVR. But thanks for your work! I really appreciate that you giving us your time. I modded players retiring which is awesome. Pirlo have excellent form, and he is 38 yrs old.

I started new career with PSG. In my team everything is okay, after first season Ibra 89, Alex 81 etc. But after one season older players in cpu teams have big drops.
Pirlo 77
Di Natale 69
Sagna 76
Abiatti 66
Drogba 72
Totti 67
Lampard 67
Buffon 77
Mark Schwarzer 59(!)
Klose 67
Anelka 69
Puyol 69
Ferdinand 67
Etc.

Any ideas how we can fix it? I can't find anything in playergrowth.ini

PS. I saw, that you, beta990 before release updated patch you also changed this two values from 0.125 to 0.05 but it doesn't have any effect. I think that in this two lines of playergrowth.ini you have to put only "full" number e.g. 1, 2, 3, 5, 10. I think that FIFA "can't" read the decimals. :\
Thanks for the report! I think you have right. I don't mind they will grown negative, but not to much indeed. Will add to the todo list. Will try some things to hope solve this issue. :)

sheva_70;3583274 said:
beta990;3580949 said:
Thanks, will add this to the todo list. Hope to find a solution soon. :)
Hi Beta 990,
Have you news ?
When I play a career and I look at the jobs, I have always the same league that recruits (Premier League, Serie A, Bundesliga, BBVA, Ligue 1).
What should tweak to get offers from Russia, Switzerland, Brazil, Korea, Ligue2 ?
Which file should I edit?

If you know someone who could help me?

Best Regards
joboffers.ini, but it will crash the game. More testing/tweaking is needed.
 

ultimatum

Club Supporter
I donloaded the installer, but it says Version 1.0
Is it your mistake?
.
.
.
Also, should i regenerate my fifa after installing via installer?
 

beta990

Reserve Team
ultimatum;3583355 said:
I donloaded the installer, but it says Version 1.0
Is it your mistake?
.
.
.
Also, should i regenerate my fifa after installing via installer?
It's not a mistake, just counting from 1.0 since the installer is new. :P
So 1.0 is the newest, just to confirm. ;)

Yes, you should always regenerate otherwise after mod install!
 

engengaifc

Club Supporter
will this still work when moddingway update their mod to the next version? They are planning on releasing an update tonight or tomorrow.




Thanks!
 

sheva_70

Club Supporter
Hi Beta990,

I tested 3 careers as a starting point France, Sweden, Swiss.
And I had this as offers :

France : France, England, Germany, Italy, Spain

Sweden : Sweden, Austria, Norway, Netherland, Argentina, USA, Russia, Saudi

Switzerland : Switzerland, Austria, USA, Scotland, Belgium, Italie (serie B), Chili

I conclude that the offers are made by level championships.
So I do not think that will be the number of offers have to be modified in the file joboffers.ini
But it would rather see where to find the level championships and put on the same level ?

(I have v6 of your mods, and I find it perfect)

Best Regards
 

JHoliness

Club Supporter
Some feedback after playing with the new 'installer' version of the mod.

Some of my younger players aged 18-21 are growing far too quickly. When January came around, some had grown 6-7 points overall already. And for someone like Suso who starts at 74 (but does have a potential of 89) that's a little crazy, since it seems like he would reach his potential after around a season and a half-ish aged around 21. It seems some younger players are randomly shooting up, without even playing a game. (Some players such as Morgan had also shot up, even though I hadn't played them once). Other players however, such as Jordan Ibe (62 overall 75 potential) hadn't grown at all. Although he had not played any games, but other players (Morgan) had grown considerably, when he also had not played.

Also, Sturridge who up until January has only gotten 6 goals and 3 assists, has already reached his potential of 85 also. If he had been top goal scorer with a lot of goals or whatever I could understand; but his form is 'good' at best.

However, one really good thing is that negative player growth (retirement) is good. One of my older players Gerrard had only lost some stats physically, but his overall was still the same, and none of his other stats were affected. Additionally, he had been playing near enough every game, so this is good. Furthermore, Kolo Toure had only played a few games and consequently, he has dropped 3 overall, which is understandable due to his lack of games. I also checked well known good older players (such as Pirlo and Xavi) to see how they were doing, and they had also not dropped any points overall. Likely due to them playing consistently for their respective clubs, so from my testing, I would say negative player growth is pretty accurate ATM. However, I'll progress further and let you know.

Transfers need to be more frequent, particularly on deadline day. On deadline day in January, no transfers had been made at all, unless I sold one of my players or I bought somebody else's. The only big deal of that transfer window was Mata, the next closest was around £8 million. Also, I had the summer transfer window disabled, so all the clubs would have had plenty of money to spend.

Hopefully this first 'batch of feedback' can be helpful to you, thanks beta990!
 

mudry

Club Supporter
I can't agree with you, JHoliness. After one season of PLAYING (not sim) with Arsenal, Pirlo have 77 OVR and Xavi 83. But I have to agree with you in transfers frequent. In SIM career with PSG, after 5 seasons team squads are very similar to their squads in 1st season. I went from PSG to Crystal Palace and in their first squad was Delaney and 2nd CB (I forgot his name). They had 55 and 57 OVR and 35+ yrs old. Why Crystal Palace doesn't bought any other CBs for 1st squad?
 

JHoliness

Club Supporter
mudry;3584312 said:
I can't agree with you, JHoliness. After one season of PLAYING (not sim) with Arsenal, Pirlo have 77 OVR and Xavi 83. But I have to agree with you in transfers frequent. In SIM career with PSG, after 5 seasons team squads are very similar to their squads in 1st season. I went from PSG to Crystal Palace and in their first squad was Delaney and 2nd CB (I forgot his name). They had 55 and 57 OVR and 35+ yrs old. Why Crystal Palace doesn't bought any other CBs for 1st squad?

Are you using the latest version? I agreed with you before the installer version as after just 7-8 matches, older players like Xavi and Pirlo were dropping like crazy. Now however, it's much better, after the same amount of time as before (7-8 matches) Xavi and Pirlo remain at the same overall. Even really old players like Totti or Friedel aren't dropping overall points (which should perhaps be tweaked a little, because eventually IRL, really old players lose some of their skill and mental ability).

Okay, after a full season, I actually agree with you more. The negative player growth has been improved, but, after a season, players like Xavi and Pirlo suddenly drop big overall. (Pirlo was 76 Xavi was 81). My old players don't drop so much (Gerrard only dropped 1 overall). So yeah still needs some work.

Also regarding my previous post about young players, after a season, all of them seem to at least grow one point, but again, some young players shoot up so quick. Like halfway through the season, Suso got to 81, and because he did so, so quick, he didn't grow again for the rest of the season. It should be a more gradual growth.

Is it also possible to have some players renew their contracts quicker? For example, if I really wanted to, I could have signed Xavi for Liverpool for free because he had only 1 month left on his contract. Top, loyal players at clubs, such as Xavi, should renew their contract quicker (not sure if this is just part of EA's doing, or whether it can be tweaked).
 

engengaifc

Club Supporter
JHoliness,

I have noticed you are on the moddingway forums aswell. Have you tried this with moddingway version 1.0.1? Does it work ok?

Thanks
 

JHoliness

Club Supporter
engengaifc;3584343 said:
JHoliness,

I have noticed you are on the moddingway forums aswell. Have you tried this with moddingway version 1.0.1? Does it work ok?

Thanks

Yes I have, that's what I have been testing on and it all seems to work fine, no crashes or anything like that, I can progress into a second season no problem, so it should be fine :) (using database 4.0 as well which adds new teams)

I'll do a SOAK test soon though, to see if anything happens but if one season is fine, it's doubtful progressing through more will cause any problems.
 


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