F.A. Cup Final- Liverpool vs West Ham [R]

[CARRICK]

West Ham United fought like true heroes

At the end of the day Liverpool couldnt beat us in normal time, we matched them, created more chances and should have won

The penalty shoot out is a lottery and the reds got lucky

Our team was immense today, huge pat on the back for Benayoun, Reo Coker, Ashton and Gabbidon as well as the rest of the boys.

West Ham till I die!

 

[Johnny_Big]

I can't see the videos...any codec needed?

 

[dobrin1980]

that was a crazy match...congrats to the Hammers for the play they pulled out throughout the whole match...i know we got lucky, but the win is sweeter that way....
...about Gerrard....he is priceless.

 

[Filipower]

what a fucking amazing goal. best goal i've seen this season, counting all leagues and cups..:Bow::Bow::Bow:

 

[ausbarca]

how come Gerrard hits the ball so great and with extraordinary power?
his legs dont look that strong!

u dont exactly have to have strong legs, 3/4's of it is pure technique my friend is alot like gerard in that hes a skinny chap but man can he hit a ball,
lyk a few freinds of mine have legs about 3 times as thick as his but arent able to produce the same shot as they just cant get the technique right

 

[gasper000]

score 3 goals against liverpool-->U LOSE..!
ac milan 2005_CL FINAL
west ham 2006_FA CUP FINAL

GERRARD iS THE BEST..!

 

[Ulric_B]

The result was the highlight of the year imo.

 

[hermolt]

The result was the highlight of the year imo.

Mine was the Championship table. Millwall so small time it hurts

 

[TheBlueBalla]

Firstly, congrats to Liverpool on what was an excellent game

Compare and contrast- the snarling 'we were never beaten', the sarcastic, oh-so-clever comments and the ill-feeling from a certain team not a million miles, but definitely a few billion pounds away, and the dignity and class from Reo-Coker and Pardew after being beaten. More than that, after being beaten in a game where they took it to us, didn't hide, didn't **** around with stifling and ridiculous tactics. Their fans, players and manager are an object lesson in how to approach, play and accept the result of a game with the class we expect of our own.

While the plastic, fair weather johnny-come-lately's and their expensive whores celebrate a hollow, dull, ground out league championship, tip a glass to a club with style, history and class far beyond what can be bought. And then refill it for a club that in 5 years has participated in 3 of the greatest finals of all time.

And once again, a Liverpool fan bleating about the class and dignity their fans, team and manager represent sees fit to bring Chelsea into a discussion where 1. They were never brought up 2. They had no bearing

Tell the groundskeepers at Old Trafford about Liverpool's class as they paint over that munich-laden filth in those destroyed bathrooms

Tell that to George Best's son as they spat on his father's memory by ruining his moment of silence

Tell that to the ambulance crew who carted off Alan Smith

Tell Tottenham about Benitez's class when he sees fit to tell the world their transaction details

Ask Gary Naysmith how sporting Captain Marvel is. Ask that fairy cunt luis garcia about cheating

Smacks of classlessness, an almost universally evident inferiority complex and the jealousy that smacks of never having won the league in, what is it now? Two decades? That there is the rub. You see, Arsenal, the Mancs, theyve tasted success domestically recently. Tottenham never really had it. But Liverpool, their's is a special case. There is a sadistic and venomous jealousy that oozes out of every pore with regards to Chelsea, a non-rival until a mere 1000 days ago. The thought that someone so nouveau riche can ascend to and past their lofty heights in the space of one season just seems to make them extra scummy to deal with. But that cant be all of it. No. Id say its the fact that were going to keep them in 2nd to 5th for the next decade probably accounts for the rest

So all I have to say is

score 3 goals against liverpool-->U LOSE

score four against them, but dont bother tipping your glass, eh?

You are having a laugh if yoou idiots even compare him to Lampard. He is up there with Ronaldinho.

I'll give Gerrard his due, but thats the overreaction of the century

 

[Kibe Kru]

The thought that someone so nouveau riche can ascend to and past their lofty heights in the space of one season just seems to make them extra scummy to deal with. But that cant be all of it. No. Id say its the fact that were going to keep them in 2nd to 5th for the next decade probably accounts for the rest

You'll need more than a season for that mate.... you'll need 5 euro cups, and 15 league titles.... Even if you keep us in 2nd to 5th in the league for the next decade, you'd still be lacking silverware to your name for a comparison...

At the moment you're the best in England by a big margin, it'd be foolish to say you're not... Are we jealous of that? maybe we are... you've got loads of cash, and a great squad after all... Which is something we'd love to have.

But I don't think Ewan posted that out of jealousy or bitterness... He just doesn't need that... he just pointed out that some people know what sport is about, some don't... and I don't think he meant Chelsea fans...

 

[TheBlueBalla]

I think its clear exactly what he meant, and while I obviously dont mean to rile up every Liverpool fan, I have seen this type of language often enough around the web. While its not in many of the people on this forum, it seems particuarly strong in English Liverpool fans, many of whom feel the need, in much the same style as this post, to come onto a chelsea board, and lecture, ******* lecture us on what it means to be classy, great, etc. Yeah, Arsenal and the Mancs won alot of trophies themselves, but for some reason their fans seem to be more posessed of that dignity. And that old argument that its because Liverpool havent won anything of note is now debunked considering your achievement in Istanbul. Maybe its the fact that Roman didnt choose you to overhaul. Im really not sure

Its funny how we never have the same difficulty from any other base of fans, ever. Now I will be the first to admit your team has, by chance and performance, give us the best challenges and most difficult defeats of the last three years, and I would be content to leave it there. But that doesnt seem good enough for Liverpool fans. No, they have to constantly brag about their class and their teams pedigree, how wonderful and knowledgeable their fan base is, and how we, nor anyone else, will ever match it. I'd be content to leave that, except for the fact that its so laughable and riddiculous. Its funny how Milan and Madrid fans never see fit to bring tinfoil cups to league games and scream "nine times baby" when theyre playing the likes of Ascoli or Malaga

I would genuinely say that Chelsea will never match Liverpool's historical achievements. We were average for a very long time when you were at the apex of English and European football. This was of course, when we were slogging through the years of mediocrity (for references on that, you can look it up in the history Liverpool fans constantly claim we dont have) and constant relegation battles. But you'll excuse me if, for the aforementioned reasons I am especially smug to see us beat you and send your rock tossing, urinal bashing, scum-of-the-earth fan base home in tears.

Five years ago, I used to actually like Liverpool. Three years ago I didnt have any particular hatred towards them. Now, if Anfield collapsed from age, I would hold a celebratory barbeque. Yes, that sounds juvenile as hell, but I consider myself an equitable and level headed fan, and I think alot of people would agree that I am not blinkered. And that is honestly how must the antics of Liverpool's players, manager, fans, and the media that prop them up and degrade us, annoy me

So dont take any of that personally, Kru

 

[Lean]

You see, Arsenal, the Mancs, theyve tasted success domestically recently. Tottenham never really had it. But Liverpool, their's is a special case. There is a sadistic and venomous jealousy that oozes out of every pore with regards to Chelsea, a non-rival until a mere 1000 days ago. The thought that someone so nouveau riche can ascend to and past their lofty heights in the space of one season just seems to make them extra scummy to deal with. But that cant be all of it. No. Id say its the fact that were going to keep them in 2nd to 5th for the next decade probably accounts for the rest

You won 2 league titles, with Roman's money. You know where you would be without it son, so dont come here thinking you're a better club than us, because you're not. Maybe a better team (which we can beat by the way, without having spent a third of what you did), but never a better club, at least for now. After you've won the CL 5 times and you hold the record for league titles in England, then we can talk a bit.

Also, winning domestic cups isnt considered domestic success?

 

[Kibe Kru]

I think its clear exactly what he meant, and while I obviously dont mean to rile up every Liverpool fan, I have seen this type of language often enough around the web. While its not in many of the people on this forum, it seems particuarly strong in English Liverpool fans, many of whom feel the need, in much the same style as this post, to come onto a chelsea board, and lecture, ******* lecture us on what it means to be classy, great, etc. Yeah, Arsenal and the Mancs won alot of trophies themselves, but for some reason their fans seem to be more posessed of that dignity. And that old argument that its because Liverpool havent won anything of note is now debunked considering your achievement in Istanbul. Maybe its the fact that Roman didnt choose you to overhaul. Im really not sure

Maybe it has to do with the arrogance of the "nouveau riche" who suddenly came out of nowhere, their manager included. Please don't take this personally, as you're obviously not like that, but you know there are idiots in every set of fans. They give us stick about not winning the league, how better their squad is (which is true), and how much money they've got. We answer by saying how we don't need all that money and all those players to win trophies. That's how it goes.

Its funny how we never have the same difficulty from any other base of fans, ever. Now I will be the first to admit your team has, by chance and performance, give us the best challenges and most difficult defeats of the last three years, and I would be content to leave it there. But that doesnt seem good enough for Liverpool fans. No, they have to constantly brag about their class and their teams pedigree, how wonderful and knowledgeable their fan base is, and how we, nor anyone else, will ever match it. I'd be content to leave that, except for the fact that its so laughable and riddiculous. Its funny how Milan and Madrid fans never see fit to bring tinfoil cups to league games and scream "nine times baby" when theyre playing the likes of Ascoli or Malaga

It just happens that Liverpool are the most successful club in England. That gives them something to brag about. Seeing as league titles have dried up, to some it means they have nothing to brag about except their history and titles. Madrid give stick to Barca about their Euro Cups, for example. They're their main opposition at the moment, just like Chelsea is for Liverpool fans at the moment (and I'd say Chelsea is the team to beat for all the title contenders, which doesn't mean it's a fierce rivalry that will last forever)

So dont take any of that personally, Kru

Of course not, and neither should you take any of my own posts personally... or anyone's for that matter, unless they specifically point you out.

 

[TheBlueBalla]

You won 2 league titles, with Roman's money. You know where you would be without it son, so dont come here thinking you're a better club than us, because you're not. Maybe a better team (which we can beat by the way, without having spent a third of what you did), but never a better club, at least for now. After you've won the CL 5 times and you hold the record for league titles in England, then we can talk a bit.

Read again, and dont call me son. You are a poster I respect, so I wont say anything more offensive than that. Then please kindly tell me what Chelsea as a club and its fan base have to do with Liverpool winning the FA cup, and where it belongs in the discussion of the fact that you won. Coming up empty? There is my point proven

Also, winning domestic cups isnt considered domestic success?

Not the kind of success your fanbase values. At least, it apparrently means you dont have a history

 

[TheBlueBalla]

Maybe it has to do with the arrogance of the "nouveau riche" who suddenly came out of nowhere, their manager included. Please don't take this personally, as you're obviously not like that, but you know there are idiots in every set of fans. They give us stick about not winning the league, how better their squad is (which is true), and how much money they've got. We answer by saying how we don't need all that money and all those players to win trophies. That's how it goes.

Fair play to your post and that is a good point. There are many many things I am very embarrassed about that Mourinho and Kenyon do. I love Chelsea but I hate the way they conduct themselves, and though Jose is a winner and Kenyon is a proven financier, they are not the type of people I would ordinarily ever defend.

And yes, there are legions of unfortunate glory hunters among Chelsea fans, as it is with many fans, but that tag becomes overly applied to anyone who likes or defends them nowadays. To be honest, and I dont want to sound like a drama queen, coming onto this site and fighting with people about the sh*t Chelsea gets up to is becoming so time consuming on every level that it makes me avoid the place for long stretches. Especially when it comes to actions I would normally be accosting my own club for

 

[Lean]

Read again, and dont call me son. You are a poster I respect, so I wont say anything more offensive than that. Then please kindly tell me what Chelsea as a club and its fan base have to do with Liverpool winning the FA cup, and where it belongs in the discussion of the fact that you won. Coming up empty? There is my point proven

Nothing, it has nothing to do. But then comes you calling Pool fans the scum of earth, so i guess the reaction you got was expected. And well, when you dont win a league in almost 2 decades, silverware is welcome eh?

You're a poster that i respect aswell. Sorry for the son bit. It just sounds fancy. Watching too much Sean Connery movies.

 

[TheBlueBalla]

I agree, it sounds very tough indeed...irregardless of the age of the other poster!

If you havent already seen A Bridge Too Far, check it out!

I'm talking about these Liverpool fans who stream into our forums and taut their teams acomplishments with no instigation. I read from time to time over at places like rawk and I never see the same kind of stuff going the other way, but it regularly trickles down to far smaller forums. Mourinho may be a real bitch, but it just seems that its always your fans trying to instigate and bring Chelsea up is a trait ive noticed excessively for non rivals. And indeed, I know every fan base has their knuckleheads. Ours if full of new coming glory hunters, yes, but the hypocracy over the whole "best fans in the world", and the longball, and the diving, etc etc, you'll understand how it becomes a bit tiresome.

I agree. Silverware is welcome anywhere you find it. Hopefully the only place our two teams compete over it is the league, because I would rather this rivalry didnt get anymore heated than it already is I say that not for my own sake, but other posters from other boards regularly come back with stories of the increasing hostility at Liverpool-Chelsea matches and its a bit troubling

 

[Lean]

I agree, it sounds very tough indeed...irregardless of the age of the other poster!

I'll try to check the movie out aswell. Fair enough mate.

 

[Kibe Kru]

And yes, there are legions of unfortunate glory hunters among Chelsea fans, as it is with many fans, but that tag becomes overly applied to anyone who likes or defends them nowadays. To be honest, and I dont want to sound like a drama queen, coming onto this site and fighting with people about the sh*t Chelsea gets up to is becoming so time consuming on every level that it makes me avoid the place for long stretches. Especially when it comes to actions I would normally be accosting my own club for

Oh well, it's something you'll have to get used to... Look at man u fans, and how they all get called glory hunters, even with history showing record attendance when they were struggling. Hell, I get called a glory hunter because I'm not English, and when I started supporting Liverpool they hadn't won anything for a good time...

 

[Haukur Gudnason]

And once again, a Liverpool fan bleating about the class and dignity their fans, team and manager represent sees fit to bring Chelsea into a discussion where 1. They were never brought up 2. They had no bearing.

Sigh, aight Diddyman,

Originally Posted by Haukur Gudnason
Compare and contrast- the snarling 'we were never beaten'
(Chelsea..better team lost yada yada)

the sarcastic
(Chelsea...ooh 45 points separation, ooh next year 800 points from us oooerr)

oh-so-clever comments (Chelsea..."We can win the league by Xmas")

and the ill-feeling
(It never crossed the line!) repeat ad infinitum until you get beat again by Liverpool in semi by Garcia's goal, again)

from a certain team not a million miles, but definitely a few billion pounds away, and the dignity and class from Reo-Coker and Pardew (Take a bow, West Ham) after being beaten. More than that, after being beaten in a game where they took it to us, didn't hide, didn't **** around with

stifling and ridiculous tactics.
(Chelsea...Plan A- Long ball to Drogba, Plan B-Long ball to Centreback up front in desperation) Hey, look lads, Liverpool are susceptible to attacks down the flanks whenever they play us, so since I'm European Champion and Rafa is European Champion by luck, let's play a rightback at right mid, and a right mid at rightback to beat them and ensure we win the Double-Beaten-by Garcia-in-Semis-Cup. What the hell, why do we need wingers, let's buy Ballack hey!)

Their fans, players and manager are an object lesson in how to approach, play and accept the result of a game with the class we expect of our own.
Take another bow Hammers, you got your tactics spot on, you took your chances, you had us disorganized and in quite a state, you didn't spend nearly half a billion and you didn't resort to lumping it at your centrebacks up front, yet you didn't moan and whine and blame the tea lady for the loss, how is that remotely POSSIBLE in this day and age??)

While the plastic, fair weather johnny-come-lately's and their expensive whores celebrate a hollow, dull, ground out league championship
self explanatory, if not applicable, keep yer knickers on

tip a glass to a club with style, history and class far beyond what can be bought.
that's West Ham

And then refill it for a club that in 5 years has participated in 3 of the greatest finals of all time.
Uz thieving reds, for sure

Tell the groundskeepers at Old Trafford about Liverpool's class as they paint over that munich-laden filth in those destroyed bathrooms

This is why the LFC board made a request to play the match at an alternative venue, of course, like at Heysel, our request is ignored but that's besides the point really. Utd fans of course have never resorted to such thuggery at Anfield, not even at Shankly Gates, or the Hillsborough shop or ceremonies and it's not like we've never traded cups of piss or **** during matches either, it's been going on for ever la, it's deplorable, obviously but we have our bad lot and so do they, just that theirs like the media attention more.

Tell that to George Best's son as they spat on his father's memory by ruining his moment of silence

Oh why do we even bother, we could trade stories of their versions of Hillsborough and Heysel and their lovely songs about us butchering our own, AT EVERY SINGLE GAME, when THE TRUTH clearly states otherwise. They're so good at it even some of them on this board brand us as murderers at every available opportunity to rile. Do we post Munich songs and post pictures of aircraft here like in retaliation? No. It's the unsavoury part of an intense rivalry spanning ages. But you need to keep your sense of perspective.

Tell that to the ambulance crew who carted off Alan Smith

Which crew? Oh the one which upon being interviewed testified that they were NEVER rocked, that they THOUGHT they heard a single bump of an object, (which turned out to be a single bottle) thrown at them, and that the media blew it out of proportion? But that's obviously not as juicy as the MAN UTD fans who attacked an elderly fan, their very own, in cold savage blood is it? Look in the Utd thread, I posted it.

Tell Tottenham about Benitez's class when he sees fit to tell the world their transaction details

So it's wrong now to tell the truth when someone blabs off to the world abt everything that you know to be untrue, that you know has been documented and can be backed up in a court of law? Do you know why Levy has been rather quiet on this matter of late?

Ask Gary Naysmith how sporting Captain Marvel is. Ask that fairy cunt luis garcia about cheating

What, of how Gerrard came into that tackle completely premeditated and bragged about it in a book which he then profits from? Horrendous, it was but I certainly don't see Naysmith or the bitters moaning about it do you?
And they're up there with the best of them, at moaning, those bitters.

Luis Garcia is obviously the only player who goes down without contact then.Oh but why the fascination with Garcia, oh maybe because he knocked Chelsea out twice in successive semis.

That's why when the referees talked about those in the black list of divers and those with the tendency to blow smoke in their eyes, they went straight for eerr...Drogba. He's about the same size as Luis anyway, so they probably go down at the same rate at every touch. What about Eidur's admission that he went down to get Alonso booked? Yeah Xabi told me that personally, it's even documented in one of his interviews and i'm not messing with ya, I just can't be arsed to find it. Hey Frank, like another shot at Alonso's ankle? Hey Essien, how bout a hand here (or a boot) to help Hamann's retirement along? Hey Robben, how's the gunshot wound healing? Hey Terry, didn't realize you weren't a goalie what with the handballs in yer box to keep out our shots.

Smacks of classlessness, an almost universally evident inferiority complex and the jealousy that smacks of never having won the league in, what is it now? Two decades? That there is the rub. You see, Arsenal, the Mancs, theyve tasted success domestically recently.

Inferiority complex hasn't set in yet you see, because at 18-5 and with Rafa at the helm, we know there's a long way to go before others actually surpass us, if they ever. It's just like Martin Tyler said after the recent shootout, 'England's most decorated club has just won another trophy'. We're not stagnating, we're improving and we will win the league again, of that I'm sure. Man Utd and Arsenal have dominated the decade, that's a given, in terms of league superiority, and despite everything Taggart, sorry, Ferguson has won, why do you think it only needs the mere mention of 18-5 to rile him up so bad? That's right, that's inferiority complex kicking in, so you see.

We can't even say for sure we're jealous of your financial status, especially when we keep hearing of your billions and then seeing you lumping your centrehalves upfront trying to grasp a win from us, and it's becoming more frequent and tedious, not to mention, mildly amusing like.

*High 5's BlueBalla*