[DOWNLOAD] Classic Patch 14

[GIGGIRIVA]

I created a minimum of texture for the 1934-1938-1950 balls. I don't have the model XD

These are texture stalks. On this type of balloon I rebuilt a 4550x4550 pixel working base which I then resized to 2400x2400 for the patch.

 

[DeWoo]

While we are standing at balls topic, I would like to take opportunity and look here for some solution from experienced people
Playing a lot in Classic Patch for last few years I struggle randomly, but very often with unstable gameplay. By unstable in my situation I mean minor, but visible slower air balls motion, slower players reactions. You just feel it's not as smooth as should be. Something like playing old-gen games on HDR. Changing speed from slow to normal or fast doesn't help here. The same with sliders of speed and acceleration.
I don't know, if ball texture resolution (512/1024/2048) has big influence on that. I suppose not, but I think there might be some conditions causing gameplay delays like below. However, I never figured out what is the real reason:
- RAM (my is low - 3 GB, but never faced typical lagging, so should be ok)
- weak graphic card and going forward different lightning during match (day/night/overcast) in dry conditions (no rain/snow)
- so called FIFA AIDS known in the net as scripted CPU handicap algorithm that none of us is able to win with.
I use mostly 1024x1024 ball textures. All of the models are same or almost same size. Anyway, some balls, especially white, look much bigger probably due to light reflection and their motion is slower what causes whole gameplay slower and unstable.
I am sorry for such a long post here in this thread, but I am looking for solution for few years with no success.
Maybe some of you with low-end as well as high-end pc know this problem and could advise what to do. I am not desperate to buy new laptop/pc while this one is working, but would like to understand this random and weird gameplay difference.

 

[M8no2001]

While we are standing at balls topic, I would like to take opportunity and look here for some solution from experienced people
Playing a lot in Classic Patch for last few years I struggle randomly, but very often with unstable gameplay. By unstable in my situation I mean minor, but visible slower air balls motion, slower players reactions. You just feel it's not as smooth as should be. Something like playing old-gen games on HDR. Changing speed from slow to normal or fast doesn't help here. The same with sliders of speed and acceleration.
I don't know, if ball texture resolution (512/1024/2048) has big influence on that. I suppose not, but I think there might be some conditions causing gameplay delays like below. However, I never figured out what is the real reason:
- RAM (my is low - 3 GB, but never faced typical lagging, so should be ok)
- weak graphic card and going forward different lightning during match (day/night/overcast) in dry conditions (no rain/snow)
- so called FIFA AIDS known in the net as scripted CPU handicap algorithm that none of us is able to win with.
I use mostly 1024x1024 ball textures. All of the models are same or almost same size. Anyway, some balls, especially white, look much bigger probably due to light reflection and their motion is slower what causes whole gameplay slower and unstable.
I am sorry for such a long post here in this thread, but I am looking for solution for few years with no success.
Maybe some of you with low-end as well as high-end pc know this problem and could advise what to do. I am not desperate to buy new laptop/pc while this one is working, but would like to understand this random and weird gameplay difference.

Well I understand the problem
But for me the gameplay of 14 is fine
All is normal for the gameplay of a 9 year old game
I dream also to dribble like in 22 but it is not possible at least as far as I know

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

While we are standing at balls topic, I would like to take opportunity and look here for some solution from experienced people
Playing a lot in Classic Patch for last few years I struggle randomly, but very often with unstable gameplay. By unstable in my situation I mean minor, but visible slower air balls motion, slower players reactions. You just feel it's not as smooth as should be. Something like playing old-gen games on HDR. Changing speed from slow to normal or fast doesn't help here. The same with sliders of speed and acceleration.
I don't know, if ball texture resolution (512/1024/2048) has big influence on that. I suppose not, but I think there might be some conditions causing gameplay delays like below. However, I never figured out what is the real reason:
- RAM (my is low - 3 GB, but never faced typical lagging, so should be ok)
- weak graphic card and going forward different lightning during match (day/night/overcast) in dry conditions (no rain/snow)
- so called FIFA AIDS known in the net as scripted CPU handicap algorithm that none of us is able to win with.
I use mostly 1024x1024 ball textures. All of the models are same or almost same size. Anyway, some balls, especially white, look much bigger probably due to light reflection and their motion is slower what causes whole gameplay slower and unstable.
I am sorry for such a long post here in this thread, but I am looking for solution for few years with no success.
Maybe some of you with low-end as well as high-end pc know this problem and could advise what to do. I am not desperate to buy new laptop/pc while this one is working, but would like to understand this random and weird gameplay difference.

From what I know the more files are loaded in the various external "sceneassets" folders the slower the game. It's always been like this at least on the old fifas. I think it still holds. In fact in the classic 10 the files I had all inserted into the various Zdata. As for the ball that tends to snap and in mid-air, the fault is more attributable to the stadium. At that moment the game analyzing very large files and struggles slightly, let's say he misses a beat. On the default stadiums of fifa this effort is less noticeable. However it depends on how much ultra HD stuff is also loaded. The faces are almost all 1024. The balls vary from 512 to 2048. Stadiums... there are stadiums that weigh 200-250-300 mb. Those tend to make the game go jerky. A fair compromise must be found. For example, a face at 2048 accompanied by a heavy stadium crashed the game. However, 3 GB of RAM nowadays are too few even for normal PC use. By now all programs and chrome itself consume an impressive amount of RAM. As far as the sizes of the various ball models are concerned, I don't make a fuss about it. They are both PES and FIFA models collected over the course of 10 years... I'm satisfied.

 

[King AJ]

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

Chivu!

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

New faces for the CR7 clone. Here too, as for Rossi, I was messing around on facebook and some decent photos popped up on articles and posts regarding Cristiano Ronaldo's post.

PS: these two faces will not be included in 4.0. I have long since closed the databases and created the RARs. Not being a simple files to be replaced via but needs to create the various specifics and make a change on the database (and I don't feel like it at this time, I'm resting and messing around with the patch files) they will be inserted in the future.

Default face for CR7 clone



Specific for Portogallo 2004 and i think for Man Utd 03-04 (I'll check in a few weeks)

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

Hello. Sorry to contact you here but I saw that you have blocked the ability to send you private messages. I wanted to ask you if I can adjust and edit your faces for the patch. I also asked for Gabri and am awaiting an answer. For some faces I have versions already present that are not too bad and can be recycled in some way. I tend to mix textures or models where possible (using the Face Master 15). I also often change the hair if a player has made drastic changes of look to be able to have more versions.

Yesterday I tried to mix Rummenigge with the version already in the patch (mostly the texture) and with other photos that I had downloaded over the years. I'm not done yet, I'm still looking for photos with various shades to see various details. I hope to find them. Not easy with players active 40 years ago :P



I hope there are no problems if I have to do other mixes.
Otherwise I'll just keep them for myself

 

[M8no2001]

Hello. Sorry to contact you here but I saw that you have blocked the ability to send you private messages. I wanted to ask you if I can adjust and edit your faces for the patch. I also asked for Gabri and am awaiting an answer. For some faces I have versions already present that are not too bad and can be recycled in some way. I tend to mix textures or models where possible (using the Face Master 15). I also often change the hair if a player has made drastic changes of look to be able to have more versions.

Yesterday I tried to mix Rummenigge with the version already in the patch (mostly the texture) and with other photos that I had downloaded over the years. I'm not done yet, I'm still looking for photos with various shades to see various details. I hope to find them. Not easy with players active 40 years ago :P



I hope there are no problems if I have to do other mixes.
Otherwise I'll just keep them for myself

This rummennigge is already much better then the current version

 

[King AJ]

Hello. Sorry to contact you here but I saw that you have blocked the ability to send you private messages. I wanted to ask you if I can adjust and edit your faces for the patch. I also asked for Gabri and am awaiting an answer. For some faces I have versions already present that are not too bad and can be recycled in some way. I tend to mix textures or models where possible (using the Face Master 15). I also often change the hair if a player has made drastic changes of look to be able to have more versions.

Yesterday I tried to mix Rummenigge with the version already in the patch (mostly the texture) and with other photos that I had downloaded over the years. I'm not done yet, I'm still looking for photos with various shades to see various details. I hope to find them. Not easy with players active 40 years ago :P



I hope there are no problems if I have to do other mixes.
Otherwise I'll just keep them for myself

As I said few months ago in my forum, you can do alterations, improvements and updates to any of the models I uploaded and there is no need to ask me. Since I am only someone who converts other people's work. I even don't want any credits to these works because all the creative work is done by the original content creator. My creativity's scope ends with Tokke's tool's ability.. !! That's how creative I am ..
So go on, do what you want.. Enjoy..

And don't wait for Gabri to reply.. He won't have any problem with you updating the work..

 

[MadbaLL]

New faces for the CR7 clone. Here too, as for Rossi, I was messing around on facebook and some decent photos popped up on articles and posts regarding Cristiano Ronaldo's post.

PS: these two faces will not be included in 4.0. I have long since closed the databases and created the RARs. Not being a simple files to be replaced via but needs to create the various specifics and make a change on the database (and I don't feel like it at this time, I'm resting and messing around with the patch files) they will be inserted in the future.

Default face for CR7 clone



Specific for Portogallo 2004 and i think for Man Utd 03-04 (I'll check in a few weeks)

amazing!

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

As I said few months ago in my forum, you can do alterations, improvements and updates to any of the models I uploaded and there is no need to ask me. Since I am only someone who converts other people's work. I even don't want any credits to these works because all the creative work is done by the original content creator. My creativity's scope ends with Tokke's tool's ability.. !! That's how creative I am ..
So go on, do what you want.. Enjoy..

And don't wait for Gabri to reply.. He won't have any problem with you updating the work..

Thank you very much. I also got the green light from Gabri. I always prefer to ask because I've had some small problems in the past and I don't want to repeat the experience XD

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

This rummennigge is already much better then the current version

I'm trying to sharpen the texture and soften the shadows under his eyes

 

[M8no2001]

I'm trying to sharpen the texture and soften the shadows under his eyes

About improving faces without making request
Liedholm and Basler could also be updated
The problem is especially for Liedholm to find good photos
For this era it’s hard to find top material

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

About improving faces without making request
Liedholm and Basler could also be updated
The problem is especially for Liedholm to find good photos
For this era it’s hard to find top material

The older a face is, the more it needs to be fixed or redone. Liedholm I see it hard. The only solution would be to find a very similar default fifa texture and try to mix it with the patch one. That way you could have something decent.

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

All old links have been deleted. Tomorrow I will start upping 4.0 and stadium pack 3.0

Thank you all for the numbers you have made us recorded in this 2022

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

it will be a long night

 

[Valentin]

Gigi, do you have the Beckham face with the ponytail found in the classic patch for FIFA 16? I checked and I didn't find it . Thank you!

 

[V.K]

stadium pack 3.0

Is the 5gb new download really necessary or can we also have an update to stadium pack 2.0 with just the new stadiums?

 

[lp54]

Most common questions.

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Will clubs and club tournaments be created from 2010 to 2020?

No, absolutely no. He did not consider them classic. For me they are yesterday's teams.
They are teams that I can find by installing any fifa from 11 to 20.
I would like to revive teams that have never appeared in a video game or on dated and very basic video games.

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Euro 2020, WC 2022 will be entered?

Most likely not. We're getting too far into recent tournaments that are getting off-topic as far as the patch is concerned.

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Will pre-1930 teams be included?

Yes. My goal is to cover the whole history of football, therefore starting from 1870.
I have not yet had the opportunity to work because being a very large patch we want to finish the projects started first to understand how to work in the future.

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Will CONMEBOL 2005-2010 teams ever be made?

No. Making these teams proved simply impossible. Market question.
In the last 15-20 years, South America has become the supermarket of Europe.
A player has a good season and is sold. Then maybe he goes home, on loan, to another team.
In short, it is impossible to create a representative squad of a certain period since every year the teams change at least 6-7 or more players.

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Copa America will be added?

We want to try. But we do not guarantee a quality product. Unfortunately, the Copa America is a tournament that I have never attended both due to prohibitive times in the Italian time zone and because it was often only broadcast on pay per view). There won't be a depth of detail like for World Cup or Euro. I won't add all the stadiums but only the ones from the finals, exaggerating the most important and useful for other things in the patch as well. You know this for reasons of space both on the stadium table of the database and of space in your Hard Disks.

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How do you fit each team into a database?

Teams are divided into multiple databases by historical period. Each Database is set in a specific decade.
So, for example, a team from the 80s will not be present in the 60s database and vice versa.
Same reasoning with the DLCs. Each DLC only contains tournaments from that decade.

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How do you do the European Cuo from 1979-80 there are at least 16 teams while from 1955-56 to 1978-79 there are only 8 teams per tournament?

Simple. The further back you go, the harder it is to find information on secondary league teams.
Often there is only 11 who played the European Cup match without knowing if any player was playing out of position or was playing a substitute because a certain player was suspended or temporarily injured.
It should also be borne in mind that it is often difficult to find photos to make t-shirts
In the 80's I struggled a lot to find information for Cypriot or Northern Irish teams.

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Would you create all the complete leagues for Italy England, Spain, Germany, France?

No. Only Serie A. Being Italian, I have more knowledge and data regarding Serie A. The other nations will be filled both by me but above all, if they want, by the community's contribution.

There will be early 2000s serie a leagues?