Deadly shooting at US University - Virginia Tech

[ShiftyPowers]

Also, the dude was an English major?? Sorry, WTF? Those plays, from a purely technical point of view (ignoring the :drevil: disturbingness :drevil would have ben a pretty poor effort for a highschooler

That's why he's studying English at a mediocre Engineering School.

 

[Sir Calumn]

That's beyond the point. Students carrying guns on campus was also illegal and banned yet this psycho did it anyway. So what if you ban everything? People will still find ways around the law.

I was taking the piss by the way

 

[$teauA]

I was taking the piss by the way

Yeah I figured but I went ahead and used your post to get everyone else to understand.

 

[Sir Calumn]

**** you too asshole. Death is death is death, we're all humans and the only thing that distinguishes a civilian that dies in Iraq from a civilian that died at Virginia Tech is that one was born to Iraqi parents, and one was born to parents that didn't support him enough to get him into a good school (not too soon for jokes anymore!).

It's obvious you, sir, don't give a **** about Iraqis, but you have no idea what Joe cares about and where his moral values lay. It looks to me that he is probably not a xenophobic, nationalistic, prick like yourself.

I won't compare Bush to Cho, but I damn well can compare some of those crazy, racist, unaccountable, psychotic hicks that work for Security NGO's who have been going around killing so mercilessly that they have had to be brought under the United States Uniform Code of Military Justice despite not even serving in the military.

Major kudos to this post

Remember a while back those two US soldiers who got captured in Iraq? There was public outrage, a huge media response, Rumsfeld and the top generals launching an immediate press conferance and promising swift action, demanding release. It filled up every news show and was a huge thing. On the same day, 45 Iraqis died in a bombing and it was a sideheadline. If you'd have gone round America, or Britain had the soldiers been British, and asked them which would they rather have happened - those two soldiers dying or the 45 Iraqis - and you'd have got an overwhelming response to the later. It's racism in its purest form.

Interesting, however, how both the mass deaths in Virginia and the mass deaths in Iraq are mostly down to government error. Apparantly that kids teachers were sending in urgent reports about how dangerous he was up to 18 months ago, demanding psychiatric help for him, yet very little was done and he was allowed to keep on attending school as normal and get his hands on guns? Did he buy the guns legally? Because its one thing allowing the general public to buy them, but another to sell them to people who've been highlighted as having severe mental problems. Cho is no different to the fanatics who blow themselves and others up in Iraq, but neither should take full responsibility for the death they have caused.

 

[Sir Calumn]

Yeah I figured but I went ahead and used your post to get everyone else to understand.

Haha OK. Best argument I have ever heard of in favour of the right to bear arms comes from the great P.J. O'Rourke...

"Right now we live in a time of relatively benine government, but who's to say that will remain the case. In the 1930s, if everyone in Germany had had a gun under their pillow, would the holocaust have happened?"

I'm still devided on the issue, but it has to be an all or nothing decision - no-one having easy access to guns or everyone (except those who's teachers mark them as having serious mental problems and homocidal tendancies) having access to them - or else the balance of power is just too disturbed. Thats why there shouldnt be any of these ****ty compromises that keep getting proposed in America.

I have to admit though, I really like the gun free Britain. I see so many screwed up people every day - on the bus, in the streets, everywhere - that the idea of them having a gun at home is very worrying. Furthermore, it must be somewhat unnerving to see a gun hanging from the belt of every cop? Also, I imagine sneaking home through peoples back gardens because you've missed the last bus home after a night of heavy drinking becomes alot more frightening if you could get shot at any moment.

Havign said that, we were finally starting to get some gun problems of our own, but then you had to go and out do us. Bastards.

 

[Mauricio]

So, this mentally ill guy, turn into a murderer psycho thanks to American society??

I think yes, the cultural and social segregation he lived ( and millions live in USA), certanly pulled the trigger.

 

[Callum]

but some of what he says seems like he's disgusted with the white man boning Asian women? Very strange, the kid was f-ing crazy.

It was actually a black man boning that girl who he got mad at.

 

[The Don't]

I bet he played a lot of Counterstrike. Reckon he ran around with his knife out?

 

[rpvankasteren]

Apparently he never did play any kind of computer games.

warrant report

 

[BruceLeefan]

**** you too asshole. Death is death is death, we're all humans and the only thing that distinguishes a civilian that dies in Iraq from a civilian that died at Virginia Tech is that one was born to Iraqi parents, and one was born to parents that didn't support him enough to get him into a good school (not too soon for jokes anymore!).

It's obvious you, sir, don't give a **** about Iraqis, but you have no idea what Joe cares about and where his moral values lay. It looks to me that he is probably not a xenophobic, nationalistic, prick like yourself.

I won't compare Bush to Cho, but I damn well can compare some of those crazy, racist, unaccountable, psychotic hicks that work for Security NGO's who have been going around killing so mercilessly that they have had to be brought under the United States Uniform Code of Military Justice despite not even serving in the military.

Uh, you are so passionate about this. It is so sweet, that you care for all those people But I think it would be much better if this caring of yours, would actually result in some kind of a physical action. But since all you do is sit on your fat ass and try to be righteous here on a soccer forum, i dont think that you would do much in your life at all. So keep on feeling good about yourself by posting comments on a forum, cause you probably aint able to do anything else of a bigger value.

P.S. Plus does not your nick sounds a lot like some Nazi SS nametag??? ShiftyPowers... is it German at all? or does it just sound evil?

 

[ShiftyPowers]

It was actually a black man boning that girl who he got mad at.

Yeah, but that girl was white. From the comments he makes in the video, it seems like he's making a general statement about white guys and asian girls, he says "you **** our women!" or something like that. And how he's doing this for his sister, and family, etc.

Uh, you are so passionate about this. It is so sweet, that you care for all those people But I think it would be much better if this caring of yours, would actually result in some kind of a physical action. But since all you do is sit on your fat ass and try to be righteous here on a soccer forum, i dont think that you would do much in your life at all. So keep on feeling good about yourself by posting comments on a forum, cause you probably aint able to do anything else of a bigger value.

P.S. Plus does not your nick sounds a lot like some Nazi SS nametag??? ShiftyPowers... is it German at all? or does it just sound evil?

I can let my representatives know how I feel, I can inform myself about the issues and vote accordingly. I can join some groups and make myself heard. Other than that there isn't much physically that one person can do to stop the violence in Iraq. The American People, and the American Congress does NOT support George Bush, or this war, and yet because of how this government is set up the war is allowed to continue. What are you suggesting I do? Go to Iraq and exact some righteous vigilante justice? Isn't that what I'm railing against in the first place?

It's German because the display name includes my last name, which is German. Do you want me to apologize for being descended from German immigrants to the United States before 1900?

 

[BruceLeefan]

Yeah, but that girl was white. From the comments he makes in the video, it seems like he's making a general statement about white guys and asian girls, he says "you **** our women!" or something like that. And how he's doing this for his sister, and family, etc.



I can let my representatives know how I feel, I can inform myself about the issues and vote accordingly. I can join some groups and make myself heard. Other than that there isn't much physically that one person can do to stop the violence in Iraq. The American People, and the American Congress does NOT support George Bush, or this war, and yet because of how this government is set up the war is allowed to continue. What are you suggesting I do? Go to Iraq and exact some righteous vigilante justice? Isn't that what I'm railing against in the first place?

It's German because the display name includes my last name, which is German. Do you want me to apologize for being descended from German immigrants to the United States before 1900?

I eccept your apologies, but be sure to never question my opinions again. For I hold the truth! I hold it by the balls!

 

[ShiftyPowers]

Haha OK. Best argument I have ever heard of in favour of the right to bear arms comes from the great P.J. O'Rourke...

"Right now we live in a time of relatively benine government, but who's to say that will remain the case. In the 1930s, if everyone in Germany had had a gun under their pillow, would the holocaust have happened?"

I'm still devided on the issue, but it has to be an all or nothing decision - no-one having easy access to guns or everyone (except those who's teachers mark them as having serious mental problems and homocidal tendancies) having access to them - or else the balance of power is just too disturbed. Thats why there shouldnt be any of these ****ty compromises that keep getting proposed in America.

I have to admit though, I really like the gun free Britain. I see so many screwed up people every day - on the bus, in the streets, everywhere - that the idea of them having a gun at home is very worrying. Furthermore, it must be somewhat unnerving to see a gun hanging from the belt of every cop? Also, I imagine sneaking home through peoples back gardens because you've missed the last bus home after a night of heavy drinking becomes alot more frightening if you could get shot at any moment.

Havign said that, we were finally starting to get some gun problems of our own, but then you had to go and out do us. Bastards.

I wrote this on another forum I visit.

And the "I don't trust the government if the citizenry is unarmed" argument is so flawed it pains my idiot detector to even consider. What the hell are you going to do against the United States Military with a couple handguns? You honestly think the only thing that keeps the US Govt. from turning into a military coup is an armed citizenry? That is your serious position? A bunch of rednecks with hunting rifles are holding this democracy together? Okay, I just wanted to clear that up. Stop putting your enjoyment of firing a gun, or killing a deer, above the safety of the United States people.

 

[leungtl]

I except your apologies, but be sure to never question my opinions again. For I hold the truth! I hold it by the balls!

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[BruceLeefan]

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thank you for your help, i almost lost my dignity there.

 

[OrgulloVikingo]

I would have imagined him playing Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas online on the Las Vegas University map. Can't believe he never played games. At least the game industry is left out of the blame game.

Terrible....RIP to all thos students.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

I would have imagined him playing Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas online on the Las Vegas University map. Can't believe he never played games. At least the game industry is left out of the blame game.

Terrible....RIP to all thos students.

And I haven't heard anything about his taste in music either. Which is good.

 

[The Don't]

And I haven't heard anything about his taste in music either. Which is good.

I read somewhere that one of his roommates said he'd often be downloading music but had no favourite genre. Rock, pop, whatever. I reckon Pink inspired him. This could be our chance to banish her from the airwaves. See? Everything happens for a reason.

 

[treble41]

Don't blame it all on video games or music, or psychological problems, etc.

Whatever happened to people being plain stupid and crazy. Are the not allowed to be dumb now?

 

[Thelonious]

found this on another site, you'd think people would check for this kind of thing