Classic Patch post 10's Expansion - V1 and Update Released

valambrosio2 · Feb 13, 2022

GIGGIRIVA said:
That's right, everything grew in my hands. So the ID management for the clubs I have never taken care of "at the table" for the national teams, good or bad exploit the year with the ID (WC 1990, ID 1990) I covered most of the project. But with clubs I didn't think I'd get to where I am now. More than for tournaments it is for the management of Leagues and "Nations" (By "nations" I mean the container where 7 leagues are located) I thought of creating a "nation" for each season. Hence the 1995-96 nation contained 7 leagues. Serie A 1995-96, Premier 1995-96, La Liga 1995-96, Bunsesliga 1995-96, Division 1 1995-96, rest of the world 1995-96, and if desired Nationals 1995-96 (not qualified for Euro 96) or others club. This was the reform I was hoping to make. This is the reason that is pushing me to reform IDs. So we look for a way out and understand how to do this project. It could be revolutionary and open to thousands of teams depending on what one wants to do. A sort of starting engine, a supporting skeleton.

that could be the solution

More than this, for what I know, there's 7 leagues but you can add more, for example, 2 leagues can be "level 1" etc. (as used in original game with leagues in 2 groups, people making Lega Pro mods for example).
I have noticed some minor graphical advantage and disadvantage with those leagues/tournament ids.
For example, I wanted to assign domestic adboards to clubs (specificadboards_teamid) to be displayed on friendly and custom modes, avoiding having UCL graphics in each game mode. They work BUT you need to delete the files "specificadboards_0_0_leagueid.rx3, if you keep only the one linked to tournament (I think it's the "specificadboards_0_tournid_0 etc), then the teamspecific are displayed in friendly

and the UCL ones in the corresponding ID tournament only!
This ID of leagues has another setback: (minor one) I wanted to add alternate kits and graphics for clubs teams 5 year (example San Lorenzo 2015-20 has kitset 2016 has base, and 2019 as alternate, but added as classic (this way I can San Lorenzo domestic liga argentina adboards to the club as team specific adboards, the liga argentina 2019 adboards as teamspecific adboard year..) But as the 2019, 2016 etc id are used by tournament, I had to add them as classic graphics year 1816/1817/1818/1819 etc...). While the CopaLibertadores adboards set is only added to specific tournament id, displaying only in South American clubs cup 15-20).
Another thing is the limit of nations, you could maybe run out of them, since some countries ids are deleted, with the chance of having players with nationality 1987-1988 instead of Jordan for example)

GIGGIRIVA · Feb 13, 2022

valambrosio2 said:
that could be the solution More than this, for what I know, there's 7 leagues but you can add more, for example, 2 leagues can be "level 1" etc. (as used in original game with leagues in 2 groups, people making Lega Pro mods for example).
I have noticed some minor graphical advantage and disadvantage with those leagues/tournament ids.
For example, I wanted to assign domestic adboards to clubs (specificadboards_teamid) to be displayed on friendly and custom modes, avoiding having UCL graphics in each game mode. They work BUT you need to delete the files "specificadboards_0_0_leagueid.rx3, if you keep only the one linked to tournament (I think it's the "specificadboards_0_tournid_0 etc), then the teamspecific are displayed in friendly and the UCL ones in the corresponding ID tournament only!
This ID of leagues has another setback: (minor one) I wanted to add alternate kits and graphics for clubs teams 5 year (example San Lorenzo 2015-20 has kitset 2016 has base, and 2019 as alternate, but added as classic (this way I can San Lorenzo domestic liga argentina adboards to the club as team specific adboards, the liga argentina 2019 adboards as teamspecific adboard year..) But as the 2019, 2016 etc id are used by tournament, I had to add them as classic graphics year 1816/1817/1818/1819 etc...). While the CopaLibertadores adboards set is only added to specific tournament id, displaying only in South American clubs cup 15-20).
Another thing is the limit of nations, you could maybe run out of them, since some countries ids are deleted, with the chance of having players with nationality 1987-1988 instead of Jordan for example)

I don't remember exactly. I have set specific adboards for teams also for the 99-00 I think. However, playing little, I never noticed if the adboards of the tournament or specific team appear in a friendly match. Now I enter, I make an own goal and watch the replay to take screenshots for a face ... This is my play for years XD

ID nations is my biggest obstacle. Has Tokkee expanded the ability to add around 2000? 2500? nations, now I don't remember ... This was the basis for being able to create the project one nation per season. But the game hides the leagues, you don't see them ingame without any criteria. Random. Again, I don't know if it's a question of country ID, league ID or just a game limit. I have plan B but I don't want to use it. Plan B (hated Plan B ) would be the removal of each nation from FIFA default keeping only one for players renamed CLASSIC PLAYERS) in which way I use only one nation ID for each player and the other 249 for each Country / Season. So for example Italy becomes CLASSIC PLAYERS. while Brazil, Argentina, England, India, Thailand become seasons like 1995-96, 1974-75, 1888-89 and so on. But I don't like this solution because I have many homonymous players and you often recognize them by nationality, especially if you have them in a database where they are not allocated to any team.

Murillo 14 · Feb 14, 2022

@valambrosio2 @ovide

If in your plans are adding Mexican clubs to CONMEBOL 05-10, which had good participation of Mexicans such as Pachuca champion Copa Sudamericana 06, or in Libertadores América semifinalist in 08 and Chivas semi-finalist in 06 and finalist in 2010, as well as some other good presentations ,
I can help you with the kits for those clubs if you need it

valambrosio2 · Feb 14, 2022

Murillo 14 said:
@valambrosio2 @ovide

If in your plans are adding Mexican clubs to CONMEBOL 05-10, which had good participation of Mexicans such as Pachuca champion Copa Sudamericana 06, or in Libertadores América semifinalist in 08 and Chivas semi-finalist in 06 and finalist in 2010, as well as some other good presentations ,
I can help you with the kits for those clubs if you need it

this can be added of course

I'll advise you in time then

edy · Feb 14, 2022

valambrosio2 said:
I will add them later, for now I'm at 10-15, and with 52 Conmebol teams to finish, I don't think I will work on 2000-2010 after.

After finishing 2010-15, here's the plan:

- Add Conmebol 2005-2010.
- Copa America 2007 (surely in this version), 2004 (maybe already in next because we have the kits) - 2001 and maybe 1999 already.

- Expanding periods 1990-95 and 1995-2000 (clubs).

So no work for 2000-2010, and it has a main reason: giggi is making the 1 year UCL teams from 2000-01 until 2009-2010, so I will NOT add any European clubs teams for this period until he finish this. Why? to avoid double work and to see what material he will add, which players with which ID and faces.

Then during this time, when I already finish post 2010, I will swap to 1990-95 (I already made Bundesliga 1990-1995, the 12 missing teams to get a 20 clubs league).

- More than this I still have beside the slowly expanding of World Cups qualifiers and Euro's NQ teams (I just added the NQ teams to euro 2016 and 2020, to get groups of 4 best teams in qualifying before tournament). I added the missing Asian teams of the last round of 2018 (Syria, Iraq, Qatar, UAE, Uzbekistan and Thailand). The aim is to get for each World cup post 2000: UEFA 9 groups of 4 teams, CAF 5 groups of 3 teams, Conmebol complete (done except 2 or 3 teams from 2006 and 2002 missing), AFC last 2 groups of 5 teams, CONCACAF last group of 6 more some bonus, I'm thinking of 2 groups of 4 then the last groups) OFC New Zealand more the playoff team (Solomon Islands in 2018).
The aim is to get a sense to all those NQ teams added before, so we can play a small reduced RTWC or Road to Euro for each edition, that implies adding 10-16 teams still missing, mainly Asian, some African and Concacaf ones for each edition-.

But, if I have less than 128 teams in 2010-15, I will make you the favour of adding Dinamo Bucarest 2010-15, after all, they have a teams in CP in almost all periods except this one

thanks mate

valambrosio2 · Feb 15, 2022

some news 15/02

The AIO is still on finalizing, I have few time to work on it and there's plenty of files to re-organize.

more than this, finoallafine made the alternate kits for Copa America teams so I'm adding them already.

I noticed some sad things: some adboards files and balls files from jbou addon are desactivating some of the graphics I have added (like domestics balls and adboards for almost all clubs teams) those files activate for all teams since they are both league and tournament automatic graphics (only the tournament graphics must be kept for tournaments, otherwise the league ones overpasses the domestic ones...)
There's probably no other solution than either listing the files to delete (but need some precision from users) or find a way to avoid having those files from jbou addon inside (harder since his mod files are needed for all others graphics...) I'll not lose too many time for now on this, but it will need to be solved later (mainly for 1 year clubs teams...).

In the meatime, I have time to check again all formationsn add already some stadiums previews in CP style etc.

Hope to finish it in 1 or 2 days.

valambrosio2 · Feb 15, 2022

GIGGIRIVA said:
I don't remember exactly. I have set specific adboards for teams also for the 99-00 I think. However, playing little, I never noticed if the adboards of the tournament or specific team appear in a friendly match. Now I enter, I make an own goal and watch the replay to take screenshots for a face ... This is my play for years XD

ID nations is my biggest obstacle. Has Tokkee expanded the ability to add around 2000? 2500? nations, now I don't remember ... This was the basis for being able to create the project one nation per season. But the game hides the leagues, you don't see them ingame without any criteria. Random. Again, I don't know if it's a question of country ID, league ID or just a game limit.

mate it's probably a game limit again: like the 511 stadiums limits, you can add stadiums with ids above 512 (up to 1024) they will be added on db thanks to tokke tools, saved properly with CM and DBM, reopen all ok. But as soon as you launch the game the stadium is randomly set up by the game to a random ID before 512.

GIGGIRIVA · Feb 15, 2022

valambrosio2 said:
mate it's probably a game limit again: like the 511 stadiums limits, you can add stadiums with ids above 512 (up to 1024) they will be added on db thanks to tokke tools, saved properly with CM and DBM, reopen all ok. But as soon as you launch the game the stadium is randomly set up by the game to a random ID before 512.

Most likely ... I should test by changing ID to see what happens but I never have time.