::CJD17's HQ Scoreboards & Popups Workshop::

[regularcat]

Hi guys.. Am working on an U/D that will fix
#Bar Over SB

Also the SB will come in 3 version
#Sky Sports
#ESP
#No Channel

@RC can u do the testing buddy? I dont have FIFA anymore xD

yea of course bro, what happened to your fifa man ?

you gonna make me start hexing these sbs again now, if you have no fifa.
i scraped all my work i had done, once you released.

i think i still have my notes on offsets somewhere.

 

[rizal1304]

Cant wait for that updated.. yahooo...

 

[cjd17]

yea of course bro, what happened to your fifa man ?

you gonna make me start hexing these sbs again now, if you have no fifa.
i scraped all my work i had done, once you released.

i think i still have my notes on offsets somewhere.

The PC with FIFA crashed. Plus my exams are nxt month..

 

[barca-maniac]

Great scoreboards

Is there any tutorial for hex editing?

 

[BolT|Kr]

Great scoreboards

Is there any tutorial for hex editing?

http://tinyurl.com/482n5ex Mnn maybe that can help u

 

[barca-maniac]

No man, I think especially for FIFA with hex positions and other stuff
Btw. nice trick that

 

[ANBSeth]

No man, I think especially for FIFA with hex positions and other stuff
Btw. nice trick that

+1
true words, some hints on where to look for the right values etc. would be awesome. I think a tut or overview on that could really bring a lot of great scoreborad-downloads into the community ... maybe if we'd all send cjd17 and regularcat some chocolate? *g*

 

[barca-maniac]

I don't like guys that are keeping their knowledge only for them. I understand them that there are many guys that are stealing work, but keeping your work only for yourself is not a solution. After all, we are a community, and nobody is earning money from his work because of EA's copyright wrights. Communities are about sharing and togetherness, and that's what we are
So posting your work and helping each other can bring only good for SG and our games. And after all, our invidualy works will have much more quality. I can't think of my game withouth Keegan's boots, Regularcat's gameplay, Santi's faces, Darxxx's balls, etc. and what if Jor, for example, keept his faces converter only for him, what if Rinaldo never release his Fifa-master series? I wouldn't even think about such disaster. Personally I am very happy when somebody learned something from me. And there are many guys on this forum that are hungry of editing new files. So I call everybody to post their work by this. Btw. it's not personal Cjd, its about all of us, about SG. We are destroing ouselves from inside, and there must be some solution.

Cheers

And sorry for bad english, it's very late overhere, and I can barely stay awake now, not even mentioning about thinking

 

[cjd17]

@ANBSeth,barca-maniac

MD given tips 2 edit the sb.
Using ur common sense think how long it will take me to share my knowledge of 3 months...

I dont hav time 2 do that sorry.

 

[ariv123]

March 1 right?

 

[regularcat]

+1
true words, some hints on where to look for the right values etc. would be awesome. I think a tut or overview on that could really bring a lot of great scoreborad-downloads into the community ... maybe if we'd all send cjd17 and regularcat some chocolate? *g*

chocolate wont do it man.

sharing the finished product is one thing sharing the info to do them is different though.

we have taken the time to find the offsets needed to make this a reality.
its crucial you do the same thing to achieve what you want to do.

finding everything on your own will give you a real feeling of satisfaction, knowing you have done it all on your own.

I don't like guys that are keeping their knowledge only for them. I understand them that there are many guys that are stealing work, but keeping your work only for yourself is not a solution. After all, we are a community, and nobody is earning money from his work because of EA's copyright wrights. Communities are about sharing and togetherness, and that's what we are
So posting your work and helping each other can bring only good for SG and our games. And after all, our invidualy works will have much more quality. I can't think of my game withouth Keegan's boots, Regularcat's gameplay, Santi's faces, Darxxx's balls, etc. and what if Jor, for example, keept his faces converter only for him, what if Rinaldo never release his Fifa-master series? I wouldn't even think about such disaster. Personally I am very happy when somebody learned something from me. And there are many guys on this forum that are hungry of editing new files. So I call everybody to post their work by this. Btw. it's not personal Cjd, its about all of us, about SG. We are destroing ouselves from inside, and there must be some solution.

Cheers

And sorry for bad english, it's very late overhere, and I can barely stay awake now, not even mentioning about thinking

here is the solution bro.

trial & error testing, it may be long & tedious but its worth it in the end.

you mention people releasing tools & mods & wanting people to give you information on how to do things.

can i ask you something ?

who do you think gave us the info to do what we do ?
nobody did, we did it ourselves, i personally dont feel sharing what i find is
something that i need to do.

isnt sharing my final edit enough ?

i mean i dont see rinaldo or jor80 sharing source code to their tools they have written.

they do what cjd & i do, release for the public, but not giving away the knowledge needed to do what we do.

the community is dying because almost everyone who comes here, just wants, demands & never gives in return.

imho that just wrong, i do this to better my game & you guys should be fortunate we share what we do or you'd be stuck w/ ea's fifa 11.

my point is exactly what you say in your post.
here we are sharing our work w/ you but its not enough, now you want the info to make them also.

the problem here is what we do is never enough, it makes us feel like s**t & you wonder why we start to not share what we do.

stop looking at it through your eyes & start looking through our eyes.

all i do is give, give, give & i have a -26 rep on the forums for it.

 

[virtual_razvan]

Rep is **** regualrcat. Don't think about it. I don't care what rep I have, is just some damn points. Many people appreciate you. Don't think rep, which can be given by absolutely anyone, even stupid people, is so important.

 

[regularcat]

Rep is **** regualrcat. Don't think about it. I don't care what rep I have, is just some damn points. Many people appreciate you. Don't think rep, which can be given by absolutely anyone, even stupid people, is so important.

bro its not about the actual rep man, its the fact i could be so negative w/ all i do for the community.

its just proof of the way the members of the community act, its gimme, gimme, gimme, you give to them & 90% dont even say thanks, then you make something for yourself & make mention of it, people want it & you say no, the next thing you know you have negative a billion rep.

thats the point.

its always about what can you do for the users game, not what he users can do for the modders game, the reason 80% of the registered members in the 11 forum are even registered to begin w/.

 

[barca-maniac]

No no no. You missed my point. I completely understand your reasons, and I would do the same at your place. But I think that knowing of a few hints to someone whois new to scoreboards is very useful. I don't even thought about all of informations, it's too many hardwork in there just to tell it. And about rep: I always respected you guys that are 18+ and still working about game. I don't have much time for editing, and especially you guys.

 

[victorelessar]

come on, nobody here lives of compliments. i had over 300 downloads in my ****e espn scorbeard, and im not whinning.
about the learning and stuff, anyone could just type hex editing in google, and find a thousand answers. what i learned is that each game has its own codes, and those i cant find the answer. im not sure what it takes to decipher them, but im sure everyone here has a source, so in the end, its all about sharing again. some do, some dont.
and time is so relative

 

[regularcat]

come on, nobody here lives of compliments. i had over 300 downloads in my ****e espn scorbeard, and im not whinning.
about the learning and stuff, anyone could just type hex editing in google, and find a thousand answers. what i learned is that each game has its own codes, and those i cant find the answer. im not sure what it takes to decipher them, but im sure everyone here has a source, so in the end, its all about sharing again. some do, some dont.
and time is so relative

exactly, but its not about compliments man, its about the lack of effort someone puts in.

sure its easy to say hey, you worked really hard on an sb for 4 months, just give me the offsets.

it aint like that w/ me man, if i have to put in the effort so should someone else.

not everyone has a source, they have a mind & patience to play around, test & so forth.

in the end it is all about sharing, me myself shares the final product, not the keys to doing it.

its like buying your favorite food from your favorite restaurant, they will give you the food, but you will never get the recipe.

 

[ANBSeth]

who do you think gave us the info to do what we do ?
nobody did, we did it ourselves, i personally dont feel sharing what i find is
something that i need to do.

Well and you dont have to. Keeping crucial Findings to yourself isnt a crime, but you cant ignore the fact that it is a little selfish, especially since you know how hard it is to find it.

Saying it would take too long to explain, like CJD17, for me, thats a reason I can respect. It took me long enough to even write down this post here, so no hard feelings, time's a b*** (btw. @cjd17 best of luck for your exams!).

But saying "no" because other people should go the same trial and error route to even get a clue on how to do what you have done, just because you had to, is not just the exact opposite of what a "community" is all about, but its almost intentionally hurtful. And again, being hurtful is also not a crime. But you cant expect people to give you the best rep for it.

I just dont like this atitude of blaming the community as 80-90% ungrateful. The Fifa community is huge! What do you expect the "general public" to be? Those who are able to make mods, share them here. Those who arent, just sit back and enjoy them. Some say thanks. Others dont. Some want more. Others hate it. So what?

And btw, you keep saying the community is just gimme gimme gimme. That they'd all just take and never give. What do you mean by that? What exactly do you want em to give? I mean everytime i get here, there are new boots, turfs, gameplay mods, balls, teams, tools, transfers etc. ... the whole site is packed with it, posted by all kind of people. So Where exactly is the community not giving? Not every Fifa player who wants to upgrade its game is able to mod.

my point is exactly what you say in your post.
here we are sharing our work w/ you but its not enough, now you want the info to make them also.

Well, of course we do! Why wouldnt we? This is a zone for "editing FIFA". So its also a hub for editors graving every kind of knowledge to make some work of their own. The SBs for example are something no one else has achived yet. So it is more than perfectly normal to want this great knowledge out so people can use it for SBs of their own, that will then flow back in the community. I meant thats what a community is all about! Helping and Learning from each other. I mean we dont expect you to make a tool for us like rinaldo, or writing a whole book on hex editing, but of course people, or lets call them editors, will ask you for a few hints in how you did it so they can do it too. And to make this clear, its totally up to you to share or not. But you cant seriously expect people wouldnt ask, or even mock them as rude for doing so O_o

Where is THAT making the community better? Thats poison for all of us.

If you have done work you dont want to share, totally fine. And i mean that. Its totally fine! We all have done so im sure. But if you make something like a mod and dont plan on sharing neither info nor mod (and this goes out for everyone who feels adressed), then dont tease us with it! No screenshots, no comments. Just zip it. If you want to keep it to yourself ... then keep it to yourself. But all of it! And everyone's happy. Its as simple as that.

But if you dont, then dont complain about neg rep for showing stuff of a great mod of yours that you have no intention of sharing. You dont take some cake you made (all for yourself), show it off to a hungry person and expect him to say "uh great, thanks for letting me know". That again, intentionally hurtful

finding everything on your own will give you a real feeling of satisfaction, knowing you have done it all on your own.

That might be whats driving you, but you cant look inside of others. For me, id use every tool id find to make a final product. Its not the credit for the coding or hexing im in it for. Enjoying the result in the game, and knowing that others do it too, is what i aim for, not the way to get there (at least not the programming part). I made some SBs for pes once. All because some guy with way more hex-talent than me was was kind enough to make a SB-editing-tool for the community. A tool that sparked so many great SBs everyone could enjoy. And i hope someone will use their talent to do the same for fifa11, because so few can.

Modding is giving. All those great tools out there, made so everyone can be able to edit fifa, are done for non profit. And those tools are amazing! And they are out there for everyone. They took endless time and effort and in the end made so much "free" mods possible that are enjoyed and thanked for by countless others.

So, this in mind, reading a statement like yours saying you wont tell us how you did it, because no one was helping you ... has a sad touch to it.

 

[regularcat]

everything you said.

bro dont think i dont agree w/ you man, cause i do, ask sj25 i had a discussion on msn the other day about it for almost a half hour.

i like people here man, i really do, & if you are my friend i make extra exceptions.

i was telling sj25 that i was in a tight spot, stuck between sharing info w/ good people or not sharing w/ assholes i dont like.

so it complicates my decisions, originally i wasnt gonna release anything, sj25 talked me into it.

so it was hard enough for me to release to begin w/ but now share my knowledge w/ the general public, which most dont like me for them to learn.

hard for me to do man.

i mean i could give reasons like cjd cause what he said isnt a lie.
its a lot to explain, offsets, what lines change what, size, position, etc.

id need 2 pages of a thread just to explain.

i gave ronaldo17 a general idea of what file to hex & what to look for, what he makes of it is on him.

im not in it for credits, or rep, but it is sad to see me at a negative -26 rep because i dont share my knowledge w/ members, but in reality alone after all the mods i made for 10, serious mods too, gameplay after gameplay trying to accommodate aspects of what everyone wanted, net physics patch, animations patch, etc you would think id have a rep of + 100000000.

what kills me is the way people treat me here, then i say something & i become the bad guy.

im not a bad dude bro, i help people all the time.

as far as the community goes thats cool if members just wanna download mods & use them, but not giving thanks is wrong, a simple thank you isnt that hard to give, but if you dont or misread a read me you come into my thread pointing fingers saying things like i messed up your game.

also the lack of people actually attempting to do something on their own.
its mind boggling man, all the requests, all the i wants.

by the time they got that kit, boot, etc you could have learned to make it yourself.

excuses are just that, excuses.

i dont come to sg to have problems w/ people, not my intention, but i will not deny if you come sideways out of your mouth best believe im gonna have something to say.

after all the foul things people have said to me, i never - rep'd them, reported them, got them infractions on the forum.

i let it go, why cant i get the same courtesy, sometimes we just need to agree to disagree, period.

i get tired of this place sometimes, the forum has gone downhill the past 2 years, members are getting uglier, showing more disrespect than ever.

bottom line is it is the community that makes me do the things i do & say the things i say.

if we are good you never hear anything foul come from me, 90% of the time things i say are in response of what someone has said to me.

it sucks being a modder, everyone is your friend when you create something for them, & when you arent you are nothing to them.

this isnt a community man just cause the forum name says so.
the specific forums for editing are just that, forums where people know they can get things for their game, & little bits of conversation go on here & there.

this place isnt my basement where me & my peoples get up just to cool out, there is a purpose for why people come here.
if this wasnt an editing forum it wouldnt be anywhere as big as it is, & this is something i know you know.

 

[barca-maniac]

look man, SG isn't a bad place because of some people that don't have their RL are s***ing over this place. And after all, peoples differ a lot. In my elementary school i had 2 from biology at the semester before winter hollidays (1 - worst, 5 - best mark). And it's all about teacher and me, we argued almost every second week. At the end we got better, and I had better mark, and even I started to study for my exams, not just tooking the book off. And now, one year later, in high school where I have another teacher, I have marks at the 4 to 5 borderline. The point is that people difeer a lot, and I don't have to waste my nerves because someone is s****ing on forum about my work. And another point is that even the smallest change now can have a big influence in feature. So even a few hints could be very useful for someone. We don't need big tutorials, only few hints where to find something.

You are talking about respect? Well, I didn't saw any post where some "real" editor insulted someone. For real editors I think about guys that are making good work on this forum, like you, the big fish, and us, with smaller works. The rest are noobs without RL and spammers who doesn't know what to do so they just s**t about someone. I just ignore them, and thats all.
And look, I don't complain about anything. If someone don't like you & your work, his problem. I am happy with most of my work, so 8, 600 wiews of my FIFA 10 thread doesn't inflict me. And some other guys like Santi got that in a week. And I look foreward to learning new skills, and it would be much easier with tutorials and hints. And I very apperciate guys that are willing to help, like you did for ronaldo17.

 

[regularcat]

look man, SG isn't a bad place because of some people that don't have their RL are s***ing over this place. And after all, peoples differ a lot. In my elementary school i had 2 from biology at the semester before winter hollidays (1 - worst, 5 - best mark). And it's all about teacher and me, we argued almost every second week. At the end we got better, and I had better mark, and even I started to study for my exams, not just tooking the book off. And now, one year later, in high school where I have another teacher, I have marks at the 4 to 5 borderline. The point is that people difeer a lot, and I don't have to waste my nerves because someone is s****ing on forum about my work. And another point is that even the smallest change now can have a big influence in feature. So even a few hints could be very useful for someone. We don't need big tutorials, only few hints where to find something.

You are talking about respect? Well, I didn't saw any post where some "real" editor insulted someone. For real editors I think about guys that are making good work on this forum, like you, the big fish, and us, with smaller works. The rest are noobs without RL and spammers who doesn't know what to do so they just s**t about someone. I just ignore them, and thats all.
And look, I don't complain about anything. If someone don't like you & your work, his problem. I am happy with most of my work, so 8, 600 wiews of my FIFA 10 thread doesn't inflict me. And some other guys like Santi got that in a week. And I look foreward to learning new skills, and it would be much easier with tutorials and hints. And I very apperciate guys that are willing to help, like you did for ronaldo17.

aight look.

here is what i will tell you, but i will not give you the offsets.
this is the most im willing to do, so its enough or nothing.

in order to edit the sb, you must hex edit the 0 file in any of these big files.
depending on which league id you want to edit.

these are the files for the main sb - overlay2002, 3002, 4002, 5002, 6002.big for the main sb.

these are the files for the player name bars - overlay1.big (left) & overlay9.big (right)

you must search the data string of 80 3F.

the hexing editing is all on you, ill tell you its not that hard to do, if you can grasp the concept of it.

thats it & thats all from me, this is a big mod for this game as the sb structure is like no other fifa game previous.

to any sb editor i may have upset w/ this post, i apologize.

good luck man, its all i can & am willing to tell, hope its enough.

ps.
im gonna catch hell for this right here fellas, you better be grateful.