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Cannabis

ShiftyPowers

Make America Great Again
Fine, don't legalize everything, BUT.

Legalize Weed, X, and Shrooms. Honestly, there are really no bad effects of these three. The test that concluded Ectacy puts holes in your brain were apparantly done using Meth; nice precision test. While people do change because of it, it's not something that is going to completely **** you up and kill you like Meth is. So the tests showed that X was just as bad as Meth, which it isn't.

3 Things I will never do under ANY circumstance, no matter what the high is....
1) Crack Cocaine
2) Intravenous Drugs (particularly heroin)
3) Meth

Anything else I'll try, but there are things you need to know about drugs. There ARE drawbacks. Like the guy up there said, X can lead to depression and some weird feelings the day after, the solution is NOT more drugs. Know your body; don't do 5 hits of acid your first time, don't try to split an 8-ball with a friend the first time you do it. If you feel like you're a little out of control (or will get there with any more drugs) then you need to stop. People don't understand this, and they die. Don't overreact. X doesn't kill, what kills is when people find out they've taken X by accident and they try to counteract the effects by drinking a lot of water. Yes you need a lot of water on X, but your body can only absorb so much water at a time; too much water can actually kill you. First time you try something, do it with someone who has experience; they won't let you get out of control.

I'm not saying I've tried everything, or really even that much, but I do know a fair bit about drugs, and always heed this advice.

Prescription Painkillers are pretty sweet, but don't drink a ton with them. One time I had a lot of Vicadin and drank a lot; I didn't wake up and puked all over my bed (and self). Same happened with Percocet in a similar situation. I have done percocet alone, and it's a pretty good high, so I'll recommend the painkiller route if you want to get high.

Wow, what a weird thread/post.
 

xxxFLYERxxx

Starting XI
The thing that will kill you is when you tolerance starts going up. Me and my friend were playing golf one weekend, and after the front nine, he took 7 Vicadin. All at once. And that didnt mess him up that bad. So in the future he'll keep taking more and more untill he overdoses one day. He smoked pot ever day through high school and his tolerance shot way up.

A rising tolerance is what kills people.
 

Can't stop the rush...

Hip Hop is Dead
Originally posted by xxxFLYERxxx
Marijuana is a gateway drug though. You build a tolerance and then you move on to other things like pills, shrooms, and cocaine. Its happened to all of my friends who started out just smoking weed.

Naw....

I've smoked weed for years now(maybe only once or twice a month now days).

I have never tried any other drug.
 

italianstyle87

Starting XI
it should be legalised, its not that different to smokes or alki really
each drug just gives its own sensation
my PE teacher taught us that its not adictive (sorry if its been mentioned previosly), so i think its fine to legalise
 

emmer

Senior Squad
Originally posted by xxxFLYERxxx
Im talking about 2-3 times a day.

but then you're stating a condition for it to be a getaway drug.

anyway, i believe most users don't take it 3 times a day.

if marijuana was a gateway drug we'd have much more people into "heavier" drugs, including me and lots of friends.

i personally think this "gateway drug" theory needs more consistency.
 

rhizome17

Fan Favourite
Originally posted by emmer
i personally think this "gateway drug" theory needs more consistency.

I agree. It is just a ruse to keep it criminalised. I go through stages where I smoke 3-5 times a day, no prob, for maybe a few months, and then I go back to once a day or 4 times a week, something like that. I have tried many other drugs, pretty much everything that doesn't require a needle, but thats it - tried. I have had X a fair few times, but always with an occasion in mind. Speed, the same - but it is just waaaay not worth it the next day.

The 'gateway to harder drugs' thing is nonsense - just because the handful of people who get addicted to harder drugs have tried marijuana before, does not make it the 'cause' of their decision to move onto something else. THey have probably had a problem with alcohol too, but noone seems to care about that. Heck, they may well have drunk 10 cups of coffee a day and smoked a packet of cigarettes a day before moving to the next thing, but again noone cares about that.

Marijuana shouldn't be any more regulated than alcohol or cigarettes, possibly even less considering the fact that drink and smokes cause waaaay more harm. It just makes ******* sense, and the morons who keep it criminalised are probably on the take from the liquor industry. I mean, who wants competition, right? For every sucker that gets drnk and kills themselves while driving, there are a dozen 15 year olds waiting in line outside the liquor store.
 

northstar

Senior Squad
Its not that weed is addictive, its that some people have a tendency to become addicted. Weed is no more addictive than Cola or biting your nails.

And if weed was legal, would people be moving to harder drugs? Alcohol is a harder drug than weed but where are the calls for banning booze again for that reason? Weed is a gateway drug only because its illegal, and dealers that sell weed also sell other drugs. Im pretty sure the cafe's in Holland dont sell cocaine along with their weed. :p
 

monkee

Senior Squad
I don't really see marijuana as a gateway drug. With legislation the way it is I'd say that most people who try marijuana, or any drug for that matter, are just curious as to what the effects of the drug are.

I can see an argument saying that some people who may have tried harder drugs wouldn't have if they had not tried marijuana however. Some people may have tried marijuana and because they suffered few ill effects from it and maybe did't get what they were expecting out of it that they go on to try harder drugs. What would be the reason for this, disappointment with marijuana or the thought that because the authorities put a stigma on marijuana it becomes 'like' other drugs? Or other drugs become 'like' marijuana. In other words people think that because marijuana had few ill effects on them that the other, harder drugs might be okay as well because the govt try to put them all in the same boat.

As for alcohol and nicotine causing more problems than marijuana I'm not sure. I think that like any drug marijuana has adverse effects. I have no real idea how it compares to the effects of alcohol and nicotine because many, many more people use alcohol and nicotine than cannabis so the number of problems might be due to the number of users?
 

northstar

Senior Squad
perhaps...but I know several potheads and the people I know that are alcoholics are in much worse shape than they are. :S
 

xxxFLYERxxx

Starting XI
I agree with the gateway drug theory because ive witnessed it happen. My friend started out smoking pot on the weekends, then went to a couple times a day. He told me at the time that pot was the only drug he would ever do. A year later, after daily pot use, he started trying pills. He need a better high. He got hooked on pills, built a tolerance. 2 vicadin no longer gave him a high, so he went to 6 vicadin at a time. And all this time, hes been drinking constantly too.

Drugs are bad.:kader:
 

henry#14

Starting XI
i've only tried it like 5 times in South Africa. i don't buy it here in New Zealand for 2 reasons; not worth the money, and I really don't trust the dealers here.

in New Zealand it should definately not be legalized. ppl here get as hammered as they can from like Thursday to Sunday. weed+alcohol=vomit reflex turned off=liver damage WAAAAAYYYYY quicker and severe:kader:
 

PhiLLer

Fan Favourite
The fact is that if alcohol is legal, smoking is legal then weed should also be legal.

Alcohol can be very addictive, you lose control over yourself, drink driving can cause major accidents etc.

Weed chills you out, it doesn't make you violent, it doesn't affect you the way alcohol does when driving or doing other things. The only downside is that 1 joint is the same as 4 ciggies.
 

rhizome17

Fan Favourite
Originally posted by henry#14


in New Zealand it should definately not be legalized. ppl here get as hammered as they can from like Thursday to Sunday.

you noticed, huh? although it is the sttitude to alcohol that is the major problem here.
 

henry#14

Starting XI
Originally posted by rhizome17
you noticed, huh? although it is the sttitude to alcohol that is the major problem here.

yea, some girls in our class show up with hangovers and are like "My parents and I got so pissed last night, we couldn't find our house":(
 
J

:: JJ ::

Guest
Originally posted by PhiLLer
The fact is that if alcohol is legal, smoking is legal then weed should also be legal.

Alcohol can be very addictive, you lose control over yourself, drink driving can cause major accidents etc.

Weed chills you out, it doesn't make you violent, it doesn't affect you the way alcohol does when driving or doing other things. The only downside is that 1 joint is the same as 4 ciggies.
You smoke dope, dope? (H), sorry, binman (H)
 


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