Canada U20 vs Brazil U20

[El Diablo Rojo]

slowsilver-
there are some teams that Brasil should never lose to....especially at that yound age.
I like how Brasil gets humbled every now and then, so that these young players dont all think they are Ronaldo and Ronaldinho. But getting dominated aganist Canada is not good for Brasil. At least this wasnt a tournament...


btw, when is the next game? will it be on american tv?

You shouldn't be too bothered about that, even the best U20 teams lose to the most unexpected teams, when there's really nothing in game, say good thing this wasn't in the U20 WC or in the Sudamericano.

At least Brazil isn't wasting time in that Toulon tournament.

 

[Kibe Kru]

slowsilver-
there are some teams that Brasil should never lose to....especially at that yound age.

Yeah, yeah... and there are some countries that should never develop...

 

[El Diablo Rojo]

But like, Brazil's U20 lost to Canada's U20 in a friendly, it's not such a big deal. For now at least nothing will change Brazil will still be Brazil and Canada will still be Canada.

 

[WilliamFAlmeida]

I know it's no big deal, and I know countries will get stronger and stronger... Id just like to make sure Brasil is doing the same.
we'll see in the second game what the results are and if Brasil gets dominated again...

 

[pasion1]

In Canada they dont know too much about football (some of the medias) and kept saying "Canada vs. The best youth team in the World"

That is such a lie as the best youth team BY FAR (unquestionable) is Argentina, world wide. You look at Brazil's youth teams over the years and like 2 players (max) make it to the first division.

While Argentina you have monsters playing who become world stars 2-3 years later.

Beating Brazil was good though, shows a good improvement.

 

[WilliamFAlmeida]

I dont know about that Argentina stuff, as the youth tournament were all dominated by Brasil up until 2 or 3 years ago...our U17 squad isnt bad, but it was better than Argentinas...the U20, Argentina seems to be the stronger...

 

[El Diablo Rojo]

I know it's no big deal, and I know countries will get stronger and stronger... Id just like to make sure Brasil is doing the same.
we'll see in the second game what the results are and if Brasil gets dominated again...

Well still, even if Brazil loses it Canada still has a long way, because even if Canada becomes stronger it won't be easy for these kids, and it always happen that some don't make it the whole road. I mean last year Argentina and Brazil played 2 matches at the U20 and they were both in tournaments(on in the Sudamericano and other one in the world cup) but still the things between Argentina and Brazil on the rest didn't change a lot and if they are to change it will be on some years.

Regarding the youth football, probably Argentina is the best at U20, but Argentina has never been as good in the U17 as in the U20, probably Brazil remains as the best there and being very close to the top in the U20. Since 1995 Argentina has won 4 U20 world cups, '95, '97, '01 and '05 if i recall correctly, '99 and '03 were won by Brazil, which yeah, may make Argentina the best but Brazil made it to the top 3 in the last one. However with a deeper look, the '95 title has been an weird case, because from the champion team only Sorin(who was the captain of that team) is on the national team actually, or that ever got to play in the national team, the rest play in first or second division teams however(Irigoytia, Juan, F. Dominguez, etc), unlike the rest where most(if not all) of those players are the one that will play on Germany.

The success of Argentina in the youth teams, was a legacy of Pekerman because such thing was thanks to his work with the guys. And the clubs promoting their own youth players is kind of a key to success, just look at Vélez Sarsfield.

 

[::shinji::]

Well still, even if Brazil loses it Canada still has a long way, because even if Canada becomes stronger it won't be easy for these kids, and it always happen that some don't make it the whole road.

True, it's never easy for Canadian youth to persue a career in football....things are a lot different today than it used to be though. Before Canadian U17, U20, U21 teams were made up of kids from University teams, and that's where the majority of their careers ended. Nowadays, most actually play for professional teams in Europe (usually English lower league teams) or at least their reserve squads

 

[bigp]

They're playing game 2 right now and Canada is up 1-0 in the 2nd half. The goal was scored by Andrea Lombardo.

 

[WilliamFAlmeida]

FRICK....thats so annoying...but hopefully humbling for our squad...

For the record Brasil has 3 U20's and Argentina has 4
And U17 I think Brasil has 4 or 5 I'll check....

update me with the result of this game plz!!

 

[bigp]

Brazil 3-1 Canada.

Brazil scored on a PK, a rebound off a freekick and a 2 on 1 in injury time when Canada was down to 10 men.

Seems like another piss poor Mexican ref was reffing this match.

 

[El Diablo Rojo]

True, it's never easy for Canadian youth to persue a career in football....things are a lot different today than it used to be though. Before Canadian U17, U20, U21 teams were made up of kids from University teams, and that's where the majority of their careers ended. Nowadays, most actually play for professional teams in Europe (usually English lower league teams) or at least their reserve squads

Hmm, probably if the canadian clubs had youth teams it would be a lot better than having players to be "formed" in schools or universities, it's not the same. Because the guys grow a feeling for the colors they are defending, and they will be motivated to someday defend them at the top level.

For the record Brasil has 3 U20's and Argentina has 4
And U17 I think Brasil has 4 or 5 I'll check....

Actually Argentina has 5 U20's, and Brazil has 4, no clue about the U17's.

 

[bigp]

Hmm, probably if the canadian clubs had youth teams it would be a lot better than having players to be "formed" in schools or universities, it's not the same. Because the guys grow a feeling for the colors they are defending, and they will be motivated to someday defend them at the top level.

Most youth players come from the provincial national training centres in Canada. We only have 3 clubs in Canada that play in a semi professional league. Youth players have to go abroad if they want to play professionally. That's why many youth players just end up getting a degree and job.

But with Toronto FC coming there will be more oppurtunities for these youth players.

 

[Kibe Kru]

hopefully humbling for our squad...

If only it was humbling to the fans as well as the squad....

 

[WilliamFAlmeida]

Brasil has 3 U17 argentina has none


FIFA U-17 World Championship Peru 2005
Winner Mexico
Second Brazil
Third Netherlands
Fourth Turkey
adidas Golden Shoe Carlos Vela (MEX) 5 goals
adidas Golden Ball Anderson (BRA)
FIFA Fair play award Korea DPR

FIFA U-17 World Championship Finland 2003
Winner Brazil
Second Spain
Third Argentina
Fourth Colombia
adidas Golden Shoe Cesc (ESP) 5 goals
adidas Golden Ball Cesc (ESP)
FIFA Fair play award Costa Rica

FIFA U-17 World Championship Trinidad 2001
Winner France
Second Nigeria
Third Burkina Faso
Fourth Argentina
adidas Golden Shoe Florent Sinama Pongolle (FRA) 9 goals
adidas Golden Ball Florent Sinama Pongolle (FRA)
FIFA Fair play award Nigeria

FIFA U-17 World Championship New Zealand 1999
Winner Brazil
Second Australia
Third Ghana
Fourth USA
adidas Golden Shoe Ishmael Addo (GHA) 7 goals
adidas Golden Ball Landon Donovan (USA)
FIFA Fair play award Mexico

FIFA U-17 World Championship Egypt 1997
Winner Brazil
Second Ghana
Third Spain
Fourth Germany
adidas Golden Shoe David (ESP) 7 goals
adidas Golden Ball Sergio (ESP)
FIFA Fair play award Argentina

FIFA U-17 World Championship Ecuador 1995
Winner Ghana
Second Brazil
Third Argentina
Fourth Oman
adidas Golden Shoe Daniel Allsopp (AUS) 5 goals
adidas Golden Ball Mohamed Al Kathiri (OMN)
FIFA Fair play award Brazil

FIFA U-17 World Championship Japan 1993
Winner Nigeria
Second Ghana
Third Chile
Fourth Poland
adidas Golden Shoe Wilson Oruma (NGA) 6 goals
adidas Golden Ball Daniel Addo (GHA)
FIFA Fair play award Nigeria

FIFA U-17 World Championship Italy 1991
Winner Ghana
Second Spain
Third Argentina
Fourth Qatar
adidas Golden Shoe Adriano Silva (BRA) 4 goals
adidas Golden Ball Nii Odartey Lamptey (GHA)
FIFA Fair play award Argentina

FIFA U-17 World Championship Scotland 1989
Winner Saudi Arabia
Second Scotland
Third Portugal
Fourth Bahrain
adidas Golden Shoe Fode Camara (GUI) 3 goals
adidas Golden Ball James Will (SCO)
FIFA Fair play award Bahrain

FIFA U-17 World Championship Canada 1987
Winner Soviet Union
Second Nigeria
Third Cote D'Ivoire
Fourth Italy
adidas Golden Shoe Moussa Traore (CIV) 5 goals
adidas Golden Ball Philip Osundo (NGA) / Moussa Traore (CIV)
FIFA Fair play award Soviet Union

FIFA U-17 World Championship China 1985
Winner Nigeria
Second Germany FR
Third Brazil
Fourth Guinea
adidas Golden Shoe Marcel Witeczek (FRG) 8 goals
adidas Golden Ball William de Oliveira
FIFA Fair play award West Germany

 

[WilliamFAlmeida]

FIFA World Youth Championship Netherlands 2005
Winner Argentina
Second Nigeria
Third Brazil
Fourth Morroco
adidas Golden Shoe Lionel Messi (ARG) 6 Goals
adidas Golden Ball Lionel Messi (ARG)
FIFA Fair play award Colombia

FIFA World Youth Championship UAE 2003
Winner Brazil
Second Spain
Third Colombia
Fourth Argentina
adidas Golden Shoe Ed Johnson (USA) 4 Goals
adidas Golden Ball Ismail Matar (UAE)
FIFA Fair play award Colombia

FIFA World Youth Championship Argentina 2001
Winner Argentina
Second Ghana
Third Egypt
Fourth Paraguay
adidas Golden Shoe Javier Saviola (ARG) 11 Goals
adidas Golden Ball Javier Saviola (ARG)
FIFA Fair play award Argentina

FIFA World Youth Championship Nigeria 1999
Winner Spain
Second Japan
Third Mali
Fourth Uruguay
adidas Golden Shoe Pablo (ESP) 5 Goals
adidas Golden Ball Seydou Keita (MLI)
FIFA Fair play award Croatia

FIFA World Youth Championship Malaysia 1997
Winner Argentina
Second Uruguay
Third Ireland
Fourth Ghana
adidas Golden Shoe Adailton (BRA) 10 Goals
adidas Golden Ball Nicolas Olivera (URU)
FIFA Fair play award Argentina

FIFA World Youth Championship Qatar 1995
Winner Argentina
Second Brazil
Third Portugal
Fourth Spain
adidas Golden Shoe Joseba (ESP) 7 Goals
adidas Golden Ball Caio (BRA)
FIFA Fair play award Japan

FIFA World Youth Championship Australia 1993
Winner Brazil
Second Ghana
Third England
Fourth Australia
adidas Golden Shoe Henry Zambrano (CHI) 3 Goals
adidas Golden Ball Adriano Silva (BRA)
FIFA Fair play award England

FIFA World Youth Championship Portugal 1991
Winner Portugal
Second Brazil
Third Soviet Union
Fourth Australia
adidas Golden Shoe Serguei Cherbakov (URS) 5 Goals
adidas Golden Ball Peixe (POR)
FIFA Fair play award Soviet Union

FIFA World Youth Championship Saudi Arabia 1989
Winner Portugal
Second Nigeria
Third Brazil
Fourth USA
adidas Golden Shoe Oleg Salenko (URS) 5 Goals
adidas Golden Ball Bismarck (BRA)
FIFA Fair play award USA

FIFA World Youth Championship Chile 1987
Winner Yugoslavia
Second Germany FR
Third Germany DR
Fourth Chile
adidas Golden Shoe Marcel Witeczek (GER) 7 Goals
adidas Golden Ball Robert Prosinecki (YUG)
FIFA Fair play award Germany FR

FIFA World Youth Championship USSR 1985
Winner Brazil
Second Spain
Third Nigeria
Fourth USA
adidas Golden Shoe Sebastian Losada (ESP) 3 Goals
adidas Golden Ball Paulo Silas (BRA)
FIFA Fair play award Colombia

FIFA World Youth Championship Mexico 1983
Winner Brazil
Second Argentina
Third Poland
Fourth Korea Republic
adidas Golden Shoe Geovani Silva (BRA) 6 Goals
adidas Golden Ball Geovani Silva (BRA)
FIFA Fair play award Korea Republic

FIFA World Youth Championship Australia 1981
Winner Germany FR
Second Qatar
Third Romania
Fourth England
adidas Golden Shoe Mark Koussas (AUS) 4 Goals
adidas Golden Ball Romulus Gabor (ROU)
FIFA Fair play award Australia

FIFA World Youth Championship Japan 1979
Winner Argentina
Second Soviet Union
Third Uruguay
Fourth Poland
adidas Golden Shoe Ramon Diaz (ARG) 8 Goals
adidas Golden Ball Diego Maradona (ARG)
FIFA Fair play award Poland

FIFA World Youth Championship Tunisia 1977
Winner Soviet Union
Second Mexico
Third Brazil
Fourth Uruguay
adidas Golden Shoe Quina (BRA) 4 Goals
adidas Golden Ball Vladimir Bessonov (URS)
FIFA Fair play award Brazil


BTW when is the next Canada - Brasil game?

 

[bigp]

The next match will be on Thursday. It will be on Sportsnet for the Canadian viewers.

 

[Kibe Kru]

If only it was humbling to the fans as well as the squad....

*looks at William's posts*

*cries*