BV Borussia Dortmund Thread [2005-2006]

[Hendrik]

Here are the goals of the Wolfsburg game.

http://s46.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1MFGKGDWRXMUT3JGRIDZFE2IRE

 

[Voltaic Borusse]

I saw bit of the game last weekend. We were really lucky to come off with the 3 points. Stupid mistakes by Wolfsburg led to easy goals for Dortmund. And what a terrible blunder there by Brzenska in the end. He has the muscle and height to grapple players. I guess that's just inexperience for you.

 

[adizlaja]

I saw bit of the game last weekend. We were really lucky to come off with the 3 points. Stupid mistakes by Wolfsburg led to easy goals for Dortmund. And what a terrible blunder there by Brzenska in the end. He has the muscle and height to grapple players. I guess that's just inexperience for you.

I disagree. I watched the entire game and felt we were unlucky to only win 3-2! We clearly dominated the entire game and had most of the chances. Rosicky was incredible. Smolarek was good also. Smolarek should have scored the header that hit the post and he should have also buried the rebound. Odonkor should have scored a goal where Gambino gave him a brilliant ball but Odonkor just dribbled out of bounds. The second goal from Wolfsburg was also a fluke.

We outplayed them and if we got a draw or loss from that game then we are possible the unluckiest team ever.

 

[Voltaic Borusse]

Yeah, I saw when Odonkor did that. That was just nervousness' and lack of composure on his part. And yeah, Rosicky was great, but Wolfsburg hit the posts a couple times if I recall correctly. The lead-up to Smolarek's goal was king of flukey, too.

 

[adizlaja]

Yeah they hit the cross bar once. But just watching the game, you could clearly see who was in control. Dortmund did whatever they wanted offensively. Defensively we made 2 mistakes and they both cost us. If we make any mistake next week then we are done.

Also, the pitch was terrible b/c some of the under soil heating didnt work. That could be part of the reason odonkor screwed that chance so badly.

 

[Hendrik]

Dortmund has reached an agreement with Swiss striker Alex Frei on a deal starting next season. He still has a contract at Rennes until 2007 so he will cost some millions.

The Spanish paper "AS" reports that Rosicky will leave for Atletico in the summer for 10 million + x (x = bonus money for success, nt call-ups, future transfer).

 

[Voltaic Borusse]

The Ruhrgebiet derby is not to be missed (©Getty Images)

Germany awash with Ruhr emotion

Friday, 3 February 2006
by Andreas Alf
from Frankfurt

It takes around 30 minutes to get from Gelsenkirchen to Dortmund by car. The two most significant football temples in the German Ruhrgebiet are just a short distance apart, but travelling from BV Borussia Dortmund's Westfalenstadion to FC Schalke 04's Veltins Arena means leaving one world and entering another.

A way of life
Black and yellow or royal blue is the big question in the west of Germany, with former UEFA Champions League winners Dortmund and one-time UEFA Cup holders Schalke remaining the most passionately supported clubs in the Bundesliga. As Schalke general manager Rudi Assauer said: "Here people still live the game."

Close contest
Dortmund and Schalke have a lot in common, not least their ongoing rivalry with southern German titans FC Bayern München. However, what unites them also lies at the root of their rivalry. For fans of both BVB and S04, such a tiny region can never be big enough for two such massive sides.

Key issue
This Saturday sees the 172nd Ruhrgebiet derby between the teams in Gelsenkirchen. With emotions always high, it is often nerve and willpower that settle these games rather than skill alone. New Schalke coach Mirko Slomka has certainly noted the change in his players as the match approaches. "They are definitely more focused than usual," he said.

Sell-out game
The fixture has been sold-out for months. "This derby is as popular as our home game against Bayern," Schalke's media officer Thomas Spiegel told uefa.com. "Our fans could get seats for between €6 and €51, excluding corporate seats, but only club members could get tickets and 43,000 season-ticket holders already had seats. Dortmund have received 6,000 tickets."

Busy trains
Such a large travelling contingent will put pressure on the local transport network. "All the train carriages will be full of fans in black-and-yellow shirts singing throughout the whole trip," said Spiegel. "I know that because it's the other way around when we play there."

"We will have to go looking for payback because our fans do not forgive losses against them" Schalke director Andreas Müller

Payback time
Schalke journeyed back to Gelsenkirchen in triumph earlier this season as they won 2-1 at the Westfalenstadion, but Dortmund supporters can take consolation from the fact they prevailed by the same margin on their last trip to Schalke. "We will have to go looking for payback because our fans do not forgive losses against them," said Schalke sporting director Andreas Müller.

Practical realities
Prestige aside, both sides could use a victory to keep them in the race for a place in Europe next season. Having invested heavily in players, fourth-placed Schalke can ill afford to miss out on the UEFA Champions League, while Dortmund - in eighth - need to climb to fifth to be in contention for the 2006/07 UEFA Cup.

Goals not 'Kohle'
However, while the focus in the club boardrooms in the coal-mining region may be on 'Kohle' - the German word meaning both 'coal' and 'money' - fans will be dreaming only of glory. "This derby is still my personal highlight of the season," said Müller. Supporters all over Germany would doubtless agree.

©uefa.com 1998-2006. All rights reserved.

http://www.uefa.com/footballeurope/news/Kind=2/newsId=391431.html

Great article.

 

[adizlaja]

Dortmund has reached an agreement with Swiss striker Alex Frei on a deal starting next season. He still has a contract at Rennes until 2007 so he will cost some millions.

I cant really believe this before I see it on the bvb website. I like Frei... but I dont know if I like him at his price. We need a young striker who can put them behind the net, but I dont think he has proved enough yet for his club to demand so much money. We'll see what happens

The Spanish paper "AS" reports that Rosicky will leave for Atletico in the summer for 10 million + x (x = bonus money for success, nt call-ups, future transfer).

I dont buy this one either. I dont want BVB dealing with Atletico at all in the future. Who knows when they will pass us the money... Also, is that 10 million pounds or 10 million Euro? BVB wants 15 million Euro at least and will get that after the World Cup if Rosicky stays healthy. This BVB management will not get lowballed like the idiots before. They know what Rosicky is worth and will not let him walk before they get what they want. He has a contract till 2008 so its not like we are losing him for nothing anytime soon. With all that said however, I feel very strongly that Rosicky will be wearing another shirt next season, but not Atleticos.

 

[adizlaja]

And the Ruhrderby is done... Scoreline 0-0. We got SCREWED big time. We should have gotten a PK before the end of the first half but the ******* referee was too pussy to call it b/c its a derby match. ******* coward! Still taking one point and keeping Schalke to 0 has to be a confidence booster. But damn with this crap refs!

Also today 2 other teams got screwed by idiotic refereeing.

 

[Hendrik]

Frei was the top goal scorer in the French league in 2005. This should be enough proof that he can "put it behind the net".

It's 10 million euro. I know they want at least the same amount back they spent on him - but who in their right mind is going to pay that for an above average midfielder? He needs a damn good World Cup.

 

[adizlaja]

Frei was the top goal scorer in the French league in 2005. This should be enough proof that he can "put it behind the net".

It's 10 million euro. I know they want at least the same amount back they spent on him - but who in their right mind is going to pay that for an above average midfielder? He needs a damn good World Cup.

If we get Frei for around 3-5 million then do it... otherwise find someone else.

Rosicky an above average midfielder? That couldnt be further from the truth. In Dortmund he doesnt play his natural position but is still damn good. He is EASILY our best player. He has been awesome this season. Getting 15 million for him wont be a problem after the world cup. I just read that **** about Bayern wanting that Aguero and Independiente wanting 15 million. That is the most ******* ridiculous thing ive ever heard. Rosicky is worth at least 3x that player.

 

[Hendrik]

If he was that amazing some better clubs than Atletico would join the race to land him. Has he learned anything in the past 5 years? Hell no, he was way better when he came to Dortmund in 2001 and helped them winning the trophy. He used to be all over the pitch playing lethal passes.
I doubt the Czechs will go far based on their record in big tournaments and tough group.

About that Aguero kid, you know that the South Americans teams always try to get as much as possible for their players. Most of them don't pan out (Saviola, D'Alessandro) or need time to adapt to the country (Riquelme, Demichelis).

 

[adizlaja]

If he was that amazing some better clubs than Atletico would join the race to land him. Has he learned anything in the past 5 years? Hell no, he was way better when he came to Dortmund in 2001 and helped them winning the trophy. He used to be all over the pitch playing lethal passes.
I doubt the Czechs will go far based on their record in big tournaments and tough group.

About that Aguero kid, you know that the South Americans teams always try to get as much as possible for their players. Most of them don't pan out (Saviola, D'Alessandro) or need time to adapt to the country (Riquelme, Demichelis).

Umm... Arsenal is after him too... I'm sure there are other top teams after him too. Your biased view towards Rosicky makes me unwilling to argue any further.

 

[Voltaic Borusse]

I think Vince is spot-on on all points. But anyway, we won 2-0 against Duisburg. I didn't even know there was Bundesliga today. Goals by Brzenska () and Rosicky (penalty).

 

[adizlaja]

Huge win that moves us to sixth. Degen was awesome. He assisted one goal and got fouled on the Penatly goal. Too bad Bayern couldnt do us more of a favor against Hertha. Anyway, maybe we move back down tomorrow depending on the results.

Another thing about Frei, he has scored 5 Goals in 21 Games in the French league this season. Not exactly mind blowing. I do not want to use more than 5 million of Rosicky's transfer on him.

 

[adizlaja]

BERLIN (Reuters) - Hundreds of fans of German club Borussia Dortmund waved huge inflatable penises at local rivals Schalke 04 on Saturday above an abusive message for their hosts.

The pink blow-ups and a huge banner in Dortmund's yellow and black suggesting Schalke fans should procreate with themselves added a splash of colour to the dour 0-0 draw between the two Bundesliga sides.

Schalke's stadium in the Ruhr Valley city of Gelsenkirchen will host four group matches and a quarter-final at the World Cup in Germany in June and July.

 

[Hendrik]

Rennes requested €15 million for Frei in December, Dortmund will start negotiating with them again in the next days.

If the Frei deal won't go through Wolfsburg's Klimowicz might be an option.

 

[adizlaja]

Of course our team doesnt have the balls to come out and snatch 5th place. We tied 0-0 with Koln. A fair result based on our performance. Weidenfeller as usual our best and most consistent player.

Rennes requested €15 million for Frei in December, Dortmund will start negotiating with them again in the next days.

If the Frei deal won't go through Wolfsburg's Klimowicz might be an option.

Dortmund is not stupid anymore. Watzke will not pay any more than 3-5 million if even that for Frei.

Klimowicz would be an option IF his contract was expiring, but it is not, so I dont see BVB paying 2 million for a 32 year old forward.

 

[Deisler]

First loss off 2006 huh? honestly i was rooting for you guys today. Bremens defense is so shytte, my god if it wasn't for the horrible scoring skills Ebi Smolarek has you would have had a confortable lead of at least 2 goals. Odonkor is a very fast player, way better than Asamoah, is he German? Kehl is just to damn practical, gotta love the guy, he is pure class. I really hope he gets back to his old form. Owomeyola

 

[Hendrik]

Yeah Odonkor is German, he's a regular at the U21 team. I've said this before, if he develops a better ball-handling technique he can become a great winger.