Bayern München Thread [2006/2007]

[Coon]

Yeah Kompany looked good today; strong and pretty good going forward. Nice footwork for a defender.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

Hey, the whole world has known about Kompany for a few years now, we only have ourselves to blame for letting him end up at Hamburg. Ditto for van der Vaart last year. We're not making good personnel decisions right now.

 

[Hendrik]

There's something on the collapsed RVN deal on the official site. Bayern offered as much as they were willing to spend on a 30 year old but in the end Madrid offered more.
Last Friday, after he's signed with Madrid, Ruud gave Hoeness a personal call, thanked him for the well going talks and said he needed to make a quick decision because of his pregnant wife.
In the future Bayern will only pay big amounts of money for young talented players who fully convince the board (unlike Agüero).

 

[Coon]

The problem with Bayern is that they hardly ever buy players that are not proven. They just wait and get the player once he is at his peak.

 

[smoove]

In the future Bayern will only pay big amounts of money for young talented players who fully convince the board (unlike Agüero).

uh-ha, who'll convice the board? the second coming of jesus christ?

when has bayern ever taken a risk with a transfer?
I can't remember one as long as hoeness is in charge, and that,imo,is their problem.
they'll be no1 in the bundesliga with many years to come just by buying the best players the league as to offer.
but they're set to struggle on european level.

 

[Hendrik]

My own interpretation of those lines is that promoting young players and playing attractive football becomes more important, winning titles slightly less important. That's the official aim, it's the first time in ages that winning the Bundesliga is no obligatory and no one even mentions the CL. The fans could easily accept that, but the board has no clear direction. Then it wouldn't have made any sense to go after RVN or to buy van Buyten instead of a younger and cheaper Mertesacker.
Magath proved in Stuttgart that he can work with the youth, too bad he now lets them rot on the bench at Bayern. He says Podolski has to earn his job in the team, Rummenigge thinks he must get a guaranteed starting job no matter what.

uh-ha, who'll convice the board? the second coming of jesus christ?

Magath and Rummenigge saw that Agüero kid play a few times live in Argentina but he failed to impress during those games. And no one in their right mind would have paid friggin 22 million euros for that kid except for Atletico, no one.

when has bayern ever taken a risk with a transfer?

True. Unproven players like Karimi, dos Santos, Santa Cruz etc. all came for cheap.

they'll be no1 in the bundesliga with many years to come just by buying the best players the league as to offer. but they're set to struggle on european level.

meh, European football is more about good team play and luck than quality because of the knockout stages. Bayern's 2001 CL winning side was way poorer based on individual talent than the current one. The likes Jancker, Zickler, Jeremies, Andersson or Linke were actually important parts of the team. But together they were a great unit.
The same applies to Porto and Monaco in 2004, Liverpool in 2005 and Arsenal last season who all made it to the final of the biggest competition in club football, against superior teams on paper.

And what do you mean by struggling on European level? Bayern consistently make it out of the group stages and then, well, Milan, Chelsea and Barcelona simply have more individual class, no shame losing to them. Hardly anyone in the club expects to win the CL.

 

[Tifon]

Why nobody talks about the next match against Schalke in the league cup.

I mean, its not an important competition, but you get a trophy, and one trophy more is always good .

 

[Hendrik]

Why nobody talks about the next match against Schalke in the league cup.

I mean, its not an important competition, but you get a trophy, and one trophy more is always good .

It will be tough to win this match though it would be nice, the winner of the League Cup receives €2M, not too bad.
The team will arrive from the Tokyo trip late Tuesday, just a few hours before the kickoff. Plus the German nt players will probably will be rested.

 

[smoove]

bayern have everything to be up there with milan,chelsea or barca.
but hell, they didn't want to pay more than 18M€ for Deco when he was 26 and one of the damn best players on the planet. Now they where willing to pay the same amount of money for RVN, who is past his prime but speaks german fluently, which seems to be one of the most important assests of bayern signing [elber,ismael,van buyten,makaay,...]. their transfer policy is a joke, they just buy "gestandene bundesliga spieler" or unproven south americans for 500k. hoeness is a somewhat smart man but he's more of a "würstelfabrikant" than a football manager, and rummenigge is one of the biggest morons in the business anyway...

 

[Hendrik]

Bayern finally learnt last Friday they had lost out to Real Madrid in the race to sign Netherlands and Manchester United star striker Ruud van Nistelrooy. "We're definitely not pleased, because we'd like to have completed the transfer. I'm not making any secret of that," chairman Karl-Heinz Rummenigge told fcbayern.de en route to the club's brief tour of Japan. "But the player himself decided for Madrid, and we have to accept that."

Club maintains strict principles

Ultimately, the potential switch foundered on the transfer fee demanded by United, general manager Uli Hoeneß explained on Sunday in Tokyo. "If we had offered what ManU wanted, the player would be ours," the board director declared, but that was more than Bayern were prepared to pay. "We'd have had to do something which goes completely against this club's philosophy."

"We did everything we could," Rummenigge reported. Bayern had in fact increased their initial offer for the Netherlands striker by almost 50 percent, Hoeneß revealed, but Madrid were prepared to top that, and thus struck the winning deal with the Manchester club.

Van Nistelrooy rings to explain

The player himself would have happily joined Bayern. The 29-year-old even rang Hoeneß last Friday evening at around half-past ten to explain his final decision. "I thought that was very commendable. He said thank you, and said it had been a very difficult decision," the Munich general manager reported, "but he felt unable to hold out and declare he still wanted a move to Bayern."

One decisive factor playing out in the background was the fact that the player's wife is heavily pregnant and will be unable to fly in just a few days. Van Nistelrooy wanted a swift decision in order to settle his final destination as fast as possible. He was unable to wait for Bayern to reconsider their position and potentially increase their offer.

Looking to the long term

That apart, Bayern were in any case not prepared to budge on their second and final offer, as the money involved in signing a player who is about to turn 30 would have contradicted the club's "long term perspective," Hoeneß remarked. "We're not interested in success for a single season. For years now, we've been working on creating a successful future."

Germany's leading club would certainly be prepared to pay substantial transfer fees if the circumstances were right. "We'll open up the club purse at some point, but only for a talented youngster we can all agree on," Hoeneß observed.

Transfer activity concluded

With the chapter headed van Nistelrooy now closed, Rummenigge confirmed the club had concluded its transfer activity ahead of the new campaign. "We'll go into the season with the squad we currently have."

The team was fully capable of attractive and successful football, the chairman insisted. Hoeneß indicated he had similarly moved on after learning of van Nistelrooy's decision. "I was angry about it for a day," the general manager explained, "but then I said to myself - life goes on."
fcbayern.de

bayern have everything to be up there with milan,chelsea or barca.

Haha who's the corrupt billionaire controlling the club? Bayern don't have that kind of money but have to pay off the stadium in the next years, maybe even alone. That's a reason to smartly spend the money.

but hell, they didn't want to pay more than 18M€ for Deco when he was 26 and one of the damn best players on the planet.

First off, Deco never was/is not/ won't be one of the best players on the planet.
The thing was that Ballack would have been sold if Deco had come and selling Ballack was not an option in 2004.

hoeness is a somewhat smart man but he's more of a "würstelfabrikant" than a football manager, and rummenigge is one of the biggest morons in the business anyway...

Even though I don't agree with their transfer policy at times they're far from being morons. Apart from two quality midfielders the squad is good, the new stadium is beautiful and, most importantly, the club is free from debt.

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Bayern lost the friendly vs Urawa Red Diamonds 0-1 in Japan. The starting team:
Kahn - Ottl, van Buyten, Demichelis, Lahm - Hargreaves - Brazzo, dos Santos, Schweinsteiger - Makaay, Podolski

 

[smoove]

Haha who's the corrupt billionaire controlling the club? Bayern don't have that kind of money but have to pay off the stadium in the next years, maybe even alone. That's a reason to smartly spend the money.

Well, they wouldn't even need that kind of money, they had oppurtunites to get world-class players for "cheap" [Riquelme in 2001,Deco in 2000 and 2004,Kompany and Camoranesi in 2006,etc.]

First off, Deco never was/is not/ won't be one of the best players on the planet.

Wrong. He's been Barcelona's most important player for two years now, before he was the same for Porto, and he's Portugal's most important player,too.

The thing was that Ballack would have been sold if Deco had come and selling Ballack was not an option in 2004.

Deco >> Ballack

the new stadium is beautiful and, most importantly, the club is free from debt.

I agree

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[Hendrik]

Yes, Deco is better than Ballack (although not talent wise). So what? Hargreaves too is better than him but far from being one of the best.

 

[Klobb]

How much money did we get for playing that game again?...We let 'em win anyway

 

[Hendrik]

€1,5M

FC Bayern: Kahn (46. Rensing) – Salihamidzic (50. Fürstner), van Buyten, Demichelis (46. Karimi), Lahm – Hargreaves, Ottl, Dos Santos (46. Scholl), Schweinsteiger – Makaay (46. Santa Cruz), Podolski

Attendance: 30.000
Goal:1:0 Okano (89.)

 

[smoove]

Yes, Deco is better than Ballack (although not talent wise). So what? Hargreaves too is better than him but far from being one of the best.

lampard,deco,ronaldinho,riquelme and kaka are the best midfielders in the world.

 

[RUSI]

Take Lampard out for Gerrard, and you are right.

 

[BayernFan01]

Ballack >> ice blu

 

[Tosiek]

Does someone watched today's game between Bayern and Urawa Reds on EUROSport? 1:0 for Urawa They lost goal in the last minute of the match and I must admit Bayern played in pretty strong squad.

 

[BayernFan01]

i dont think bayern tried very hard. they would have thrashed them if they did. they have more important upcoming games to play.

 

[Tosiek]

Yeah, they have. Like upcoming match against Schalke they will play in supercup or something.