Balls and Boots

iamsk14

Club Supporter
dissectionalone;3738414 said:
I'm not sure about the correct ID without reading the documentation first but I know that the model and texture Rx3 files have some numbers which identify their variant (normal or snow ball) and that info is stated in the documentation. You gotta clone the original ball, import the hi-vis/snow ball textures and change one of the numbers (I'm guessing it's the last one which on the normal ball should be "0" ) to either "1" or "2"... Like I said I'm not sure about what ID's are available for these variants but in the documentation I'm pretty sure that information is provided

Thanks For the Help man,Actually I Tried With number "1",But It was "2".
So For winter Balls Statements are as follows
1.specificball_0_13_2.rx3
specificball_0_13_2_textures.rx3 For "BPL"
2.specificball_0_31_2.rx3
specificball_0_31_2_textures.rx3 For "Seria A"
3.specificball_0_53_2.rx3
specificball_0_53_2_textures.rx3 For "LFP"
 

iamsk14

Club Supporter
@Dissectionalone:-One More thing bro,Is it possible to have winter balls in Winter season but clear wheather.I hope u got my ques.
 

dissectionalone

Senior Squad
iamsk14;3738479 said:
@Dissectionalone:-One More thing bro,Is it possible to have winter balls in Winter season but clear wheather.I hope u got my ques.

That's a very good question, mate. assuming that the game can be set (like in reality) to clear weather regardless of winter or summer time I'd say, yes it should be possible. I don't know a lot about winter balls assignments or winter accessories in the game cause I've never payed much attention to those features but I believe there's a way. Probably the best person to give you the best intel on those topics is the master himself, our friend scouser :)
 

Gabo

Reserve Team
Rabzyxor please (image ball mini) Brasileirão B 2014

 

dissectionalone

Senior Squad
Rabzyxor,
Turns out you weren't entirely right about the CBF version of the Ordem ball, mate. (granted, some changes to the Ordem UV map are required to make sure the graphics on some panels are properly placed but it's nothing too complicated) The biggest pain regarding that particular ball version is getting those freaky patterns that are stamped on the ball's surface... It's really hard to get enough variety of angles from photos to get the damn pattern. But I'm by no means a ball maker
 

Rabzyxor

Youth Team
Luis_Figo;3746452 said:

I cannot promise anything .... I`ll try in a few days ..... :-)

IcaroR10;3752458 said:
Rabz, if you can do:

Yup, I`ll redo the Ordem template.

Luis_Figo;3754887 said:
Those are plastic balls from the draws... :D

:innocent_smile_1:

dissectionalone;3755968 said:
Rabzyxor,
Turns out you weren't entirely right about the CBF version of the Ordem ball, mate. (granted, some changes to the Ordem UV map are required to make sure the graphics on some panels are properly placed but it's nothing too complicated) The biggest pain regarding that particular ball version is getting those freaky patterns that are stamped on the ball's surface... It's really hard to get enough variety of angles from photos to get the damn pattern. But I'm by no means a ball maker

:innocent_smile_1:

I`m growing old and lazy.

I did try a few combinations ..... let me see your layout of the ball.

The one made by jorge78 has a good layout but its a 32 panel ball. (not happy with that one :browsmiley: )
 

dissectionalone

Senior Squad
Rabzyxor;3756804 said:
The one made by jorge78 has a good layout but its a 32 panel ball. (not happy with that one :browsmiley: )

The PES texture from the ball jorge78 converted has some areas misplaced (the PES modder who made the texture did an amazing job but some symbols are not in the right place :biggrinx: )

I had to look at the balls' pictures for quite a bit to compare them so I've found out that on the CBF/CSF/first orange yellow Ordem ball launched, the swoosh symbol starts on the front pentagon where the Premier League lion/liga BBVA/Serie A logos are placed on the ordem 2 balls... Then By looking at the tests in blender I figured I needed to separate the parts of the UV map where the graphics weren't correct into their own part of the texture... The hardest part about that ball for me is that gold/yellowish pattern

Here's what I came up with so far



and here are the rx3's:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/f75w6j23wbe1o/Nike_Ordem_CBF_2014
 

Rabzyxor

Youth Team
dissectionalone;3757046 said:
The PES texture from the ball jorge78 converted has some areas misplaced (the PES modder who made the texture did an amazing job but some symbols are not in the right place :biggrinx: )

I had to look at the balls' pictures for quite a bit to compare them so I've found out that on the CBF/CSF/first orange yellow Ordem ball launched, the swoosh symbol starts on the front pentagon where the Premier League lion/liga BBVA/Serie A logos are placed on the ordem 2 balls... Then By looking at the tests in blender I figured I needed to separate the parts of the UV map where the graphics weren't correct into their own part of the texture... The hardest part about that ball for me is that gold/yellowish pattern

Here's what I came up with so far

and here are the rx3's:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/f75w6j23wbe1o/Nike_Ordem_CBF_2014

Where did you get this model from?

I don`t have this one, it has some extra panels on it unlike the EPL Ordems.

I need some time as I`m busy .... I`ll give you a PSD to play with, (since you are so into making balls this year :p)

:innocent_smile_1:
 

dissectionalone

Senior Squad
Rabzyxor;3757181 said:
Where did you get this model from?

I don`t have this one, it has some extra panels on it unlike the EPL Ordems.

I need some time as I`m busy .... I`ll give you a PSD to play with, (since you are so into making balls this year :p)

:innocent_smile_1:

I've used one the unnamed ordem balls from 15 (the BPL one if I remember correctly) then I simply made a couple unwraps in blender to get the graphics display on a more accurate position for that particular ball ;)
I've only made some easy texture work on previous games like the CSF/CONMEBOL seitiro back in Fifa 12 lol. I doubt I'll even ponder considering myself a ball maker :P
I simply enjoy the design of that ball and it's a nice match for the Brazilian teams I'm trying to gather :shades:

But that pattern is a b***h to find and the shapes that are placed on the edges aren't being so user friendly in the making :P
 

Rabzyxor

Youth Team
dissectionalone;3757201 said:
I've used one the unnamed ordem balls from 15 (the BPL one if I remember correctly) then I simply made a couple unwraps in blender to get the graphics display on a more accurate position for that particular ball ;)
I've only made some easy texture work on previous games like the CSF/CONMEBOL seitiro back in Fifa 12 lol. I doubt I'll even ponder considering myself a ball maker :P
I simply enjoy the design of that ball and it's a nice match for the Brazilian teams I'm trying to gather :shades:

But that pattern is a b***h to find and the shapes that are placed on the edges aren't being so user friendly in the making :P

I did not know you could do that. (uv unwrap)

I think its the LFP Ball (has a small pentagon on the top left).

Well, there are some errors on the ball you need to fix.

Your layout is overlapping as you can see here,



This pentagon layout needs to be fixed ... no wonder you are having problem aligning the design (the one on the top is much better)



The small pentagon needs to align with the large outer one like so.



The top left pentagon is a part of this and it rotates 72 degree. (blue side faces as shown)



The bottom pentagon is part of this and it rotates 36 degree. (green side faces as shown)



Will you redo this uv unwrap again? :browsmiley:

May be you can move some of the pentagons and resize them to make space for the two additional panels. (I don`t know, I`m assuming .... I`m a noob in Blender)

There should be some videos (youtube) on how to do this.

I`ll start working on the design (searching for images now).
 

dissectionalone

Senior Squad
Rabzyxor;3757447 said:
I did not know you could do that. (uv unwrap)

I think its the LFP Ball (has a small pentagon on the top left).

Well, there are some errors on the ball you need to fix.

Your layout is overlapping as you can see here,



This pentagon layout needs to be fixed ... no wonder you are having problem aligning the design (the one on the top is much better)



The small pentagon needs to align with the large outer one like so.



The top left pentagon is a part of this and it rotates 72 degree. (blue side faces as shown)



The bottom pentagon is part of this and it rotates 36 degree. (green side faces as shown)



Will you redo this uv unwrap again? :browsmiley:

May be you can move some of the pentagons and resize them to make space for the two additional panels. (I don`t know, I`m assuming .... I`m a noob in Blender)

There should be some videos (youtube) on how to do this.

I`ll start working on the design (searching for images now).

I'll have a go at it tomorrow. :)

Yeah, it's possible to move and resize the pentagons in the UV (the top left was the one I've paid most attention to. the others were more of an experiment to check the layout)

Edit: I've resized the bottom pentagon a bit and moved it a bit to prevent overlapping with the adjacent ones. Do you think it would be useful to have the smaller pentagons separated from the outer larger ones?
Also, you've mentioned making room for an extra two panels... Do you have a particular layout in mind?
 

Rabzyxor

Youth Team
dissectionalone;3757565 said:
I'll have a go at it tomorrow. :)

Yeah, it's possible to move and resize the pentagons in the UV (the top left was the one I've paid most attention to. the others were more of an experiment to check the layout)

Edit: I've resized the bottom pentagon a bit and moved it a bit to prevent overlapping with the adjacent ones. Do you think it would be useful to have the smaller pentagons separated from the outer larger ones?
Also, you've mentioned making room for an extra two panels... Do you have a particular layout in mind?

I`m not the person to answer questions on blender (as I said before I`m a noob :innocent_smile_1:).

Why do you want to seperate the small and large pentagons? They combine to form one panel and the extra 2 panels are the ones you are trying to edit.

From what I know you need to select the seam on the model and unwrap (blender makes the layout for you) and if you don`t like the layout you can move about and edit the layout after you unwrap.

If you look at the CL Ball as an example you will see some of the star panels are not of the same size (some are smaller). I would want all the panels to be the same size but its Ok if some are smaller as long as I can see all the panels nice and flat without an overlap.

Anyways, I`m only going to draw ...... you will have to lay out and make the ball after I give you my PSD file. (I did a little work on the design today I`ll finish it by tomorrow) :D
 

dissectionalone

Senior Squad
at first I've separated those pentagons to prevent an overly drastic change to the ball layout and at first the result was something a little closer (albeit irregular) to the way the actual graphics on the ball are meant to be displayed ;)
Both the regular orange Ordem and the CBF orange version seem to have more pictures scattered around the web I believe (at least a few extra angles)
I believe you have to mark seams first. And if you mark a seam and simply select unwrap you get a completely scrambled UV layout that doesn't resemble the original one at all. Different parts need different unwrap methods and since I'm nowhere near to being a 3d artist, what may look like a simple and yet logically unwrapped UV actually gives quite a bit of trouble.
At least unwrapping a ball is simple lol. A kit model on the other hand, not so much...
 

Rabzyxor

Youth Team
dissectionalone;3758108 said:
at first I've separated those pentagons to prevent an overly drastic change to the ball layout and at first the result was something a little closer (albeit irregular) to the way the actual graphics on the ball are meant to be displayed ;)
Both the regular orange Ordem and the CBF orange version seem to have more pictures scattered around the web I believe (at least a few extra angles)
I believe you have to mark seams first. And if you mark a seam and simply select unwrap you get a completely scrambled UV layout that doesn't resemble the original one at all. Different parts need different unwrap methods and since I'm nowhere near to being a 3d artist, what may look like a simple and yet logically unwrapped UV actually gives quite a bit of trouble.
At least unwrapping a ball is simple lol. A kit model on the other hand, not so much...

You may want to talk to someone about this unwrap. If its not done properly then you will have trouble aligning the design. (it will drive you mad :icon_spin: )

:innocent_smile_1:

I just sent you a pm.

Try the PSD and let me know if you have trouble. :D

Why do you want to unwrap a kit model (you want to edit the collars)?

So, it was a good thing EA removed your fav league ..... turned you into a serious modder ....... :innocent_smile_1: (just playing with you)

alright ... have fun.






Links on the first page .... colour and ball layout update on my ordems. :D
 


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