2015/16 UEFA Champions League Thread

[Arnau]

Something lke this

 

[ShiftyPowers]

That was one of the hardest penalties I've ever seen Muller take, but it was right down the middle. Very poor. I complain about his penalties often. Should have been Alaba, he's the best taker on the team, or otherwise Lewandowski who blasted them into the corner for Dortmund (although he hasn't taken one for Bayern I don't think).

 

[Theodorakis]

griezmann's goal; looks like offside on one angle and it looks like on side for another.

guardiola leaving had a very negative effect on bayern, as it seems.

 

[Theodorakis]

hahhaha football at its best

 

[Theodorakis]

appearantly bayern had spent 32m euros for a ballboy.

 

[Theodorakis]

simeone hit the sideline official?!

 

[Mandieta6]

Can't believe Pep couldn't win a CL with this squad. As good as they were and as impressive as they were, this tarnishes his reputation in a major way, I think.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

I don't.

And that goal was offside by 20 miles. Bullshit.

 

[Arnau]

Guardiolas greatest achievement is creating such unrealistic expectations that nothing short of perfection is considered failure

 

[ShiftyPowers]

I really was only upset at his first year, and that appeared to be the players lobbying him to abandon his philosophy in Munich against Madrid, not Pep. He had a successful 3 seasons here and now it's time for both club and manager to move on (once he wins another Double).

 

[Arnau]

Tonight game was incredible, 33 fucking goal chances. Atleti scored in the only Bayern mistake (2 players jump on Gabi instead 1 and left space).

 

[Mandieta6]

Guardiolas greatest achievement is creating such unrealistic expectations that nothing short of perfection is considered failure

He had a year's head-start and 3 years to figure out how to win the CL with a blank checkbook to improve a squad that had already won a CL. I'm not saying he needed to win every single year, but he failed to make the final and never had to truly compete for multiple titles like Heynckes did when BVB were elite.

To say that expecting at least a CL final over 3 years with that squad and those resources is to expect perfection is blind.

If the argument is that he has built the basis for the club to move forward then we'll have to wait and see. But either that's wrong and Bayern flounder and he has built nothing and won nothing, or they go ahead and win, which will cast him in a bad light anyway.

I don't see anything in these 3 years that has increased his managerial stock above what it was when he started in Germany.

I'm not saying Bayern fans should be disappointed, mind. Just that Pep comes out of this ordeal slightly worse off than he did when he started it.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

Knockout Tournaments are hard. You can go out in a fluke, you can meet the one better team in an earlier round, or you can just plain get beat. It happens. Obviously I want to win the Champions League, but you can't base a season on 2 games.

 

[Arnau]

Those two games werent even bad played, Bayern did more than enought to win them both.

I have never seen anyone surviving like Atlético does, they dont play they just survive.

 

[Mandieta6]

I'm not judging Pep on performance in these matches. I'm saying his legacy will and should be tarnished by his inability to guide a CL winning squad to a CL final in 3 years.

 

[Arnau]

Pep doesnt leave any legacy at Bayern, just some improven players and team mechanics that Ancelotti will take profit but nothing more (appart from 3 years of fantastic football).

Were he might build a club identity is at City because they have no one.

 

[kp41]

Your English is still worse than me ...

It's stupid to say Pep's Bayern career was a failure ... He was successfull in Domestic competitions but not at European level ... Yes, reaching semi final every year is good enough for some clubs ... but Bayern reached 3 out of 4 champions league finals before Pep arrived ... I actually think this was Pep's worst UCL year ... they were lucky againt Juve and barely defeated Benfica in qualification rounds ...

Post January Bayern is simply not same and that's strange because unlike EPL and La Liga teams, they can rest and rebuild in January... Muller, Lewy, Alaba and Costa were much better in the first half of the season ... I think Vidal was one of the exceptions ... I'm also amazed why Thiago, Gotze and Martinez didn't improve under Pep ...

However, Pep in Bayern was the best thing that could happen for Spanish football ... Bayern had the upper hand against Spanish teams for many years ...

He had euro 2008 champions + Messi when he started at Barca and he had treble winning squad when he joined Bayern ... those are the best squads of the last 15 years for sure ... lets see what he can do with Citeh squad ...

 

[Mandieta6]

Pep doesnt leave any legacy at Bayern, just some improven players and team mechanics that Ancelotti will take profit but nothing more (appart from 3 years of fantastic football).

Were he might build a club identity is at City because they have no one.

That's exactly my point. That said, I can see him failing to guide City to CL success and similarly leaving without a legacy.

Would be funny if City won the CL now (would've been funnier if they beat Pep on the way there, but whatever).

 

[Sir Didier Drogba]

Pep is the Donald Trump of football managers

 

[Sir Didier Drogba]

The big question is, after this blip, can Ancellotti restore dignity to the club and bring it back somewhere close to the Heynckes glory year before pep took it down the toilet?