1st Season in Master League Just ~Ended
Having played many many games of PES5 now, exi-game league cup and now Master League I can now comment on the game.
off the top of my head .. The game is great .. still has its flaws like PES4 but still great!
Now this is not a sourgrapes rants as I just seen my team lose the league in the last game of the season to a very big cheating cpu, annoyed yes but these things I have seen throughout all the games Ive played.
The classic had to be a cross into the back post by the cpu , the ball was and did go over the cpu forward standing there! Did it go out for a goalkick NO! As the ball past over his head, one of my unhighlighted (not under my control) players got behind him and from near on the byline jumped over the forwards back and flicked a header in at the back post ... oh say the commentator! unlucky og there! If it had been the other way round you would have had to have said it was some move and header by the forward to sqeeze the ball into the goals at that angle! but it was the cpu that was controlling my player at that moment and made that player jump and head it into his own goals, it was not me ... and yet any other time when you need your cpu controlled defenders to move they don't ! anyhoo .. Im over it agggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Right onto the flaws in the game , 5 still has those very annoying rebounds that hit off your player and alway I mean always goes to the nearest cpu player(s).
Tackling ? I don't use any tackle buttons when I try to get the ball off the cpu, I only use the srpint button and try to get across the front of them, but another annoying thing about that is, when I do get a player near to get a legal foot in, the ball always is knocked away to another cpu player or near enough for the cpu to collect the ball again..
The ref gave a foul when I was running side by side with the cpu , I meam if our shoulders touched it must have been by just a fraction, but freekick is given..
Even not using any of the tackle button (use only sprint) more often than not my player will stick his foot in and knock the ball away, the cpu player gives a little stumlbe and a freekick is awarded!
Yet if the cpu does the exact same to you 9.99 times out of 10 , you get no freekick and you have lost the ball.
On the advantge rule, I have tackled cpu players who have stumbled but stumbled on and regained there run and although the yellow advantage flag comes up, the ref plays on ...
In all the PES5 games I have played when that has happened to me and I regain control (usually bearing down into the box or going clear) the ref has never waved play on, once the yellow advantage flag comes ! The game is always stopped.
Not a flaw in the general sense of the game (as in deflections alway going to the cpu) but it does affect gameplay! L1 change Icon control of a player! the amount of times that Ive pressed to change to another player (I set manual)it doesn't highlight the player the ball is just running past but one of your other player further away! In defence, it has caused goals to be lost as I have press to highlight one of my CBs as the cpu player is coming down the middle , put as I hit L1 its one of the FBs that gets the icon over him and its 3 or 4 presses later before I can get the player thats nearest to the on coming cpu player highlighted and under my control..
This has to be fixed, chasing cpu players when Im hitting L1 to bring a defender or midfielder forward to meet him, its the players 5 to 8yards behind the cpu player that the icon is jumping between ...
Cpu picking your pass, if anything that is the most annoying of the flaws in the game! time and time again, I have had players in great positions near me when I have the ball, I face them (analog stick is pointing at them and I never move it as I press the pass button) but even facing a player who is anywhere from 6 to 12yards away and in the clear , does not matter ! I press pass and the player on the ball will spin around and hit a pass into a crowded box only to be cleared or find my player in an offside postion!
I can only hope in the next gen-console games that these AI flaws are wiped out , along with the need to press super cancel just to get your player moving again..
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now 3 or 4 flaws might not see a lot , but put them all together in a 10/15 min game of PES5 and they will have you tearing your hair out !!
I might be thick, but I can't see why Konami buildt these things into the game play! the need to press SuperCancel comes from the fact to name 1, that your player stops mid run to allow the cpu to get to a 5050 ball 1st..
I could never understand why they though that was a good idea?
most times both player would get to the ball at the same time and tackle each other for it , when your player stops to allow that to happen outside of the penalty box that's bad enough, but when your defenders stop mid run in the box to allow the cpu to get to the ball 1st then that is another matter...
I hear you say ah just press 2 button what does that take, thats not the point, the point is once ou have control of your player the cpu should not takeover it just to allow its player(s) an advantage!
The cpu picking certain passes for you when you are in a good position (bad passes all the time it happens) and the need to press super cancel just to get back the contol of a player that already has your control icon over it, stops this from being a truely 10 out of 10 football game !
I can only hope when I go to buy my next copy for the xobx360 that all these flaws or cpu aids are gone , that would truely make the game free flowing !
Having played many many games of PES5 now, exi-game league cup and now Master League I can now comment on the game.
off the top of my head .. The game is great .. still has its flaws like PES4 but still great!
Now this is not a sourgrapes rants as I just seen my team lose the league in the last game of the season to a very big cheating cpu, annoyed yes but these things I have seen throughout all the games Ive played.
The classic had to be a cross into the back post by the cpu , the ball was and did go over the cpu forward standing there! Did it go out for a goalkick NO! As the ball past over his head, one of my unhighlighted (not under my control) players got behind him and from near on the byline jumped over the forwards back and flicked a header in at the back post ... oh say the commentator! unlucky og there! If it had been the other way round you would have had to have said it was some move and header by the forward to sqeeze the ball into the goals at that angle! but it was the cpu that was controlling my player at that moment and made that player jump and head it into his own goals, it was not me ... and yet any other time when you need your cpu controlled defenders to move they don't ! anyhoo .. Im over it agggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Right onto the flaws in the game , 5 still has those very annoying rebounds that hit off your player and alway I mean always goes to the nearest cpu player(s).
Tackling ? I don't use any tackle buttons when I try to get the ball off the cpu, I only use the srpint button and try to get across the front of them, but another annoying thing about that is, when I do get a player near to get a legal foot in, the ball always is knocked away to another cpu player or near enough for the cpu to collect the ball again..
The ref gave a foul when I was running side by side with the cpu , I meam if our shoulders touched it must have been by just a fraction, but freekick is given..
Even not using any of the tackle button (use only sprint) more often than not my player will stick his foot in and knock the ball away, the cpu player gives a little stumlbe and a freekick is awarded!
Yet if the cpu does the exact same to you 9.99 times out of 10 , you get no freekick and you have lost the ball.
On the advantge rule, I have tackled cpu players who have stumbled but stumbled on and regained there run and although the yellow advantage flag comes up, the ref plays on ...
In all the PES5 games I have played when that has happened to me and I regain control (usually bearing down into the box or going clear) the ref has never waved play on, once the yellow advantage flag comes ! The game is always stopped.
Not a flaw in the general sense of the game (as in deflections alway going to the cpu) but it does affect gameplay! L1 change Icon control of a player! the amount of times that Ive pressed to change to another player (I set manual)it doesn't highlight the player the ball is just running past but one of your other player further away! In defence, it has caused goals to be lost as I have press to highlight one of my CBs as the cpu player is coming down the middle , put as I hit L1 its one of the FBs that gets the icon over him and its 3 or 4 presses later before I can get the player thats nearest to the on coming cpu player highlighted and under my control..
This has to be fixed, chasing cpu players when Im hitting L1 to bring a defender or midfielder forward to meet him, its the players 5 to 8yards behind the cpu player that the icon is jumping between ...
Cpu picking your pass, if anything that is the most annoying of the flaws in the game! time and time again, I have had players in great positions near me when I have the ball, I face them (analog stick is pointing at them and I never move it as I press the pass button) but even facing a player who is anywhere from 6 to 12yards away and in the clear , does not matter ! I press pass and the player on the ball will spin around and hit a pass into a crowded box only to be cleared or find my player in an offside postion!
I can only hope in the next gen-console games that these AI flaws are wiped out , along with the need to press super cancel just to get your player moving again..
...
now 3 or 4 flaws might not see a lot , but put them all together in a 10/15 min game of PES5 and they will have you tearing your hair out !!
I might be thick, but I can't see why Konami buildt these things into the game play! the need to press SuperCancel comes from the fact to name 1, that your player stops mid run to allow the cpu to get to a 5050 ball 1st..
I could never understand why they though that was a good idea?
most times both player would get to the ball at the same time and tackle each other for it , when your player stops to allow that to happen outside of the penalty box that's bad enough, but when your defenders stop mid run in the box to allow the cpu to get to the ball 1st then that is another matter...
I hear you say ah just press 2 button what does that take, thats not the point, the point is once ou have control of your player the cpu should not takeover it just to allow its player(s) an advantage!
The cpu picking certain passes for you when you are in a good position (bad passes all the time it happens) and the need to press super cancel just to get back the contol of a player that already has your control icon over it, stops this from being a truely 10 out of 10 football game !
I can only hope when I go to buy my next copy for the xobx360 that all these flaws or cpu aids are gone , that would truely make the game free flowing !