The Kosovo Independence Thread {P+R}

Hey don't caricature me!

I said your response was of a similar nature, not you personally.

And why would it be impossible? It's going to happen now anyway. Again, there is no such thing as an independent Kosovo. It's not independent, even from Albania, nor does it want to be.

And as for that Turkish guy who said I was an ally of Russia?

Russia is also going to use this principle of unilateral declarations to further its own ends, in seperatist regions in the Caucusus.
That's another reason I'm against it. I like being consistent.

And Georgia, a liberal-democratic state in the Caucuses that is heavily backed by the US (and rightly so) and its leader Mikhael Saakashvili is unwilling to recognize Kosovo because of a possible legitimization of Russian interference over its own sovereign territory.

bybuti;2488253 said:

thanks simple and logical



this isnt transfer mate. you cant look just 20 years back and say this is serbian land. This what you are saying i understand like this. Now I obsess and after 10 years pass, I say this is heart of my country and this is my land. Country's were made by another theroy, by HISTORY!

i said thousands times and i will say it again : KOSOVO was, is and will be ALBANIAN LAND.

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No well I'm only talking about then the reality from 20 years ago.
It is a transfer from one state to another.

bybuti;2488342 said:

again and again

NO IT ISN'T!

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Yes it is, Unless you say that you will never join with Albania.

Kosovo Is Serbian!!!!!!!

Hopeunited;2488417 said:

Kosovo Is Serbian!!!!!!!

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Finally!

See Shifty, the Canucks are with moi!

People from Toronto are not sane. See Raptors fans.

See Yossarian!

RobbieD_PL;2488426 said:

Finally!

See Shifty, the Canucks are with moi!

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And so is China...

RobbieD_PL;2488426 said:

Finally!

See Shifty, the Canucks are with moi!

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The fvck is wrong with you man? Can't you get the facts straights? kosovo was Albanian land before 1920. Later is was 'awarded' to Serbia. Unlike the region of Cameria in Greece the Albanians were way to many to throw them all out. Now with the Albanian population being more than 90 % it is only fair that they deside their own fate. They decided they want to be independed so be it. They want to join Albania in the near future, it is their right to decide their status.

Kill a curiosity of mine man. Do you have a Serbian girlfriend/boyfriend?

Deisler;2488485 said:

The fvck is wrong with you man? Can't you get the facts straights? kosovo was Albanian land before 1920. Later is was 'awarded' to Serbia. Unlike the region of Cameria in Greece the Albanians were way to many to throw them all out. Now with the Albanian population being more than 90 % it is only fair that they deside their own fate. They decided they want to be independed so be it. They want to join Albania in the near future, it is their right to decide their status.

Kill a curiosity of mine man. Do you have a Serbian girlfriend/boyfriend?

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No lol. And you're Bosnian too right? Just don't label me an advocate for a Greater Serbia, coz i'm not. All I'm saying is be consistent. If you're going to call Pristina Albanian, call Banja Luka Serbian as well. And Again: I am going to do neither.

Well then what about ethnic groups that don't have any kind of state at all? They make up 100% of the regions that they live in, don't they? Should we just redraw borders for the the heck of it?

1920? What has that got to do with anything?
How was it awarded to Serbia? Albania never held the territory as a state.

Russia is in a sure position for this one: 'We don't acknowledge the independence 'cause we stand for integrity and shit'. But when it's all over... 'We believe Abkhazia, South Ossetia and Transnistria are all unique cases too or else there are double standards!'

This is awesome

Firstly, congrats to Kosovo, I´m really glad for you, bybuti. Great sig too, I think it´s the first time I´m happy seeing the Latvian flag somewhere.

Secondly, burning US embassy !!!11!!1one

Bonzi;2488688 said:

Russia is in a sure position for this one: 'We don't acknowledge the independence 'cause we stand for integrity and shit'. But when it's all over... 'We believe Abkhazia, South Ossetia and Transnistria are all unique cases too or else there are double standards!'

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See, bybuti? DO YOU SEE!

If these states declare independence, you won't be able to say Kosovo is unique. They have their own, less liberal agenda to pursue, and if you don't agree with them they won't care. In fact these regions ARE using Kosovo as a legitimizing preceedent. As Bonzi said - DOUBLE STANDARDS!!!
And you're saying that you don't want to know about Transnistria and all these other places. Maybe you should try to find out more.

@ Bonzi: So pretty much the Duma is going to recognize those states eventually? And what about Crimea? And what about your minorities in the Baltics?

Damn it - we're all f*cked now.

Next?

President and government disagree. The Polish president, Lech Kaczynski, has prevented the government from starting negotiations to recognize Kosovo

Dawaj Kaczynski! !

http://wiadomosci.gazeta.pl/Wiadomosci/1,80271,4947551.html

bybuti;2488774 said:

dear serbia supporters

watch CNN live what is happening in Beograd (Belgrade), American embassy is totally destroyed. they attacked Croatia and Turkey embassys too

and police are just looking and saying: destroy how much you can mates

btw, some days ago they destroyed McDonald shop too lol

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God I hate those people. Drop a MOAB on them please George.

Those were nothing but malevolent youths who broke away from the organized peaceful protest.

Attacking embassies/shops isn't going to do f*ck all except make the situation worse.

They are really crossing the line. Burning the US embassy is plain the dumbest thing they could ever do. I heard they also atacked Croatia's embassy. WTF? what was that for?

Serbs and their short fuse.

But I'm still against Kosovo independence.

RobbieD_PL;2488813 said:

@ Bonzi: So pretty much the Duma is going to recognize those states eventually? And what about Crimea? And what about your minorities in the Baltics?

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I'm pretty sure the Duma will recognize South Ossetia and Abkhazia in the first place. Then probably Transnistria. The situation with Crimea is much more complicated and I don't anything is going to change there. Let alone the Baltics.