Classic Patch post 10's Expansion - V1 and Update Released

mamounet3105 said:

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Top stuff, great memories!
Any plans for other tournaments? Maybe WC2006 (I remember you were interested in it )
We have these 128x128 logos but only for the 32 teams and they need to be stretched out for FIFA14/16 format

valambrosio2 said:

Excellent, excellent!! did you made them by yourself?
I have not really much time those days to work on adding this stuff, but I'll asap add World cup 2010 NQ teams and then will check the 2010 logos inside the mod I have.

For those euro 2008, I'll add some NQ teams too, all teams that have finished 3rd and some 4th of the qualifiers groups will be added

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Yes by myself

V.K said:

Top stuff, great memories!
Any plans for other tournaments? Maybe WC2006 (I remember you were interested in it )
We have these 128x128 logos but only for the 32 teams and they need to be stretched out for FIFA14/16 format

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the problem is that the away team's logo must be in the opposite

mamounet3105 said:

the problem is that the away team's logo must be in the opposite

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for me that is not a real problem, as soon as the logos are the most real-life looking

mamounet3105 said:

the problem is that the away team's logo must be in the opposite

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Yeah FIFA has its limitations, but I agree with Val it's better then generic.
Even when some scoreboards have mirrored logos for the away team, it's a pain because the flag itself is mirrored which doesn't work e.g. with Turkey or Portugal because of the logo inside the flag.

Look, here's something that can be done now in the single year teams version: assigning for each season at least from 06-07 teams, player's specific faces for each year..
This is not a really hard work but it can take lot of time..
For example, I have around 50 teams single years added for season 2014-15, would be amazing to assign 14/15 specific version of faces for all players concerned (from fifa 15)

For this we can say this is status by season:

06-07 clubs : can be recovered and converted from fifa 07 console faces
07-08 clubs : can be recovered and converted from fifa 08 console faces
08-09 clubs: can be recovered and converted from fifa 09 console faces (I have them, there's 499 specific faces)
09-10 clubs: can be recovered and converted from fifa 10 console faces
10-11 clubs: can be recovered and converted from fifa 11 pc files (thanks to converter)
11-12 clubs: idem from fifa 12 pc files and converted
12-13 clubs: idem from fifa 13 pc files and converted
13-14 clubs: already on original fifa 14 pc
14-15 clubs: can be recovered from fifa 15 game and I think converted to 14 with @tokke001 converter (note that all 14-15 faces were converted to fifa 11 into fifa 11 2014-15 patch v0.5 from tokke but it's the only mod from him that can not be recovered from any link as said many times...).
15-16 clubs: can be recovered either from fiaf 16 original or from faces converted pack 16 to 14 on forums
16-17 clubs: same as 15-16
from 17-18 until 20-21: converted packs from fifa 18, fifa 19, fifa 20 and 21 has got them all already

note that fifaonline 3 has variation for some players only, so console faces full folders from 07 until 10 and 11 to 13 pc are needed

note that with, quite a lot of players which had faces from fifa 07 to 10 can also have a specific face added, not by year but only the concerned player, meaning that more players from teams pre 06-07 would have specific face even not by year.

Do you mean that e.g. FIFA 07 faces can be converted to FIFA 14 and will look decent?

Or do you suggest that we use e.g. FIFA 11 Cristiano Ronaldo face for the season 2010-11 and FIFA 21 Cristiano Ronaldo face only for the season 2020-21?
In this case I wouldn't say this is a good idea because the older faces are often of much worse quality.

Now, when we speak of season specific assignments of good faces (e.g. Ronaldinho icon face), we now have the possibility to assign a face to a year and it will be used in the next 4 seasons unless assigned otherwise with the latest RM feature update.
E.g. Ronaldinho started wearing his heeadband on top of his ponytail in 2006-07 so we can assign this headband hair as specifichair_RonaldinhoID_2007 and it will be used for 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 unless a new file is assigned in any of these years.
All this is to reduce work load and files bloat.

I think faces could look rightly from FIFA 12 until 21, I have tried converting some FIFA 11 faces with Tokke's tool, and they look a little bit weird, but is better than nothing, instead FIFA 12 faces and FIFA 13 has great quality faces for players as Danny or Liedson for example, so we can try converting this for specific seasons, i don't know if past FIFAS as 10 or 09 would work fine, maybe textures and use actual hair models, FIFA Online 3 and 4 can be used for it too, players as Vidal has young versions too, not only Messi or CR7.

FinoAllaFineADP said:

I think faces could look rightly from FIFA 12 until 21, I have tried converting some FIFA 11 faces with Tokke's tool, and they look a little bit weird, but is better than nothing, instead FIFA 12 faces and FIFA 13 has great quality faces for players as Danny or Liedson for example, so we can try converting this for specific seasons, i don't know if past FIFAS as 10 or 09 would work fine, maybe textures and use actual hair models, FIFA Online 3 and 4 can be used for it too, players as Vidal has young versions too, not only Messi or CR7.

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In other cases players as Bale or Pogba can have a lot of versions that can be useful, I have spent almost 3 months assigning specific faces for players since @valambrosio2 said Jbou's teams will have same ID, is something as a hobby, and FIFA Online has been really awesome for it, with it we could find versions as Bale 2011, or a special Neymar's blonde version for WC2014, sadly I think I can't share all I've recovered during this months cause it's almost 4GB and would be hard to upload it, I tried 1 month ago and failed

yes, in fact I still don't know the quality of fifa 07 to 10 converting faces to 14. But, they should be with less quality but better than fifa pcs ones because they are from fifa 07 to 10 console versions which are next gen engine (not as it was on pc versions).

Already all exising ones and all variation from fifa online 3 and 4 would be amazing!!

@FinoAllaFineADP why don't you pack the folders (faces/hairs/hairlods/heads) with 7zip or rar, by splitting into maybe 500mb parts for uploading in several parts??
That could be a solution and very useful thing.

And yes, all players ids have same ids as original fifa's or jbou addon.

@mamounet3105 here are planned NQ teams for:

Euro 2008: 16 finalist more:
Serbia
Belgium
Scotland
Norway
Ireland Rep
England
Northern Ireland
Bulgaria
Denmark
Ukraine
Finland
Slovakia
Hungary
Wales
Slovenia

World Cup 2006: 32 finalist, more NQ teams from jbou addon more
South Africa
New Zealand
China PR
Ireland Rep
Hungary
Bulgaria
Finland
Romania
Wales
Northern Ireland
Scotland
Austria
Slovenia

Euro 2004: 16 finalist more
Scotland
Slovenia
Wales
Turkey
Norway
Belgium
Ireland Rep
Serbia Montenegro
Slovakia
Ukraine
Iceland
Poland
Austria
Romania
Israel

World Cup 2002: only those from jbou mod from now.

Euro 2000: no new except finalists

World Cup 1998: all NQ teams from Classic Patch

valambrosio2 said:

@FinoAllaFineADP why don't you pack the folders (faces/hairs/hairlods/heads) with 7zip or rar, by splitting into maybe 500mb parts for uploading in several parts??
That could be a solution and very useful thing.

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I'll try it today and PM you about it so, I haven't ended every player I'd want yet, as Coutinho for example, but i could share what I have now, and I'll advance during this days too as is something that likes me to search and assign

FinoAllaFineADP said:

I'll try it today and PM you about it so, I haven't ended every player I'd want yet, as Coutinho for example, but i could share what I have now, and I'll advance during this days too as is something that likes me to search and assign

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ok thanks!!

if this can help you assigning more (as the specific head must be assigned to player id - team id) here are some teams ids for single years:

Clubs 2014-15 season

121601 as roma
121602 liverpool fc
121603 athletic bilbao
121604 sporting cp
121605 benfica sl
121606 olympiacos cfp
121607 galatasaray sk
121608 zenith fc
121609 cska moscow
121610 ajax amsterdam
121611 malmo ff
121612 pfc ludogorets
121613 rsc anderlecht
121614 nk maribor
121615 apoel nicosia
121616 fc bate borisov
121617 vfl wolfsburg
121618 sc napoli
121619 acf fiorentina
121620 dynamo kiev
121621 kaa gent
121622 psv eindhoven
121623 club brugge
121624 standard cl
121625 kv kortrijk
121626 charleroi sc
121627 ss lazio roma
121628 genoa cfc
121629 sampdoria uc
121630 inter milan
121631 torino
121632 milan ac

Clubs 2013-14 season

121640 sc napoli
121641 real sociedad
121642 fc porto
121643 olympique marseille
121644 ajax amsterdam
121645 cska moscow
121646 celtic fc
121647 fc basel
121648 shakhtar donetsk
121649 viktoria plzen
121650 fc kobenhavn
121651 rsc anderlecht
121652 fk austria wien
121653 steaua bucuresti
121654 valencia cf
121655 olympique lyon
121656 az alkmaar
121657 club brugge
121658 standard cl
121659 krc genk
121660 sv zulte waregem
121661 sporting lokeren
121662 as roma
121663 inter milan
121664 acf fiorentina
121665 parma ac
121666 torino fc
121667 lazio roma
121668 hellas verona

Clubs season 2012-13

121675 hsc montpellier
121676 lille osc
121677 ajax amsterdam
121678 olympiacos cfp
121679 spartak moscow
121680 cska moscow
121681 zenith fc
121682 dynamo kiev
121683 sc braga
121684 rsc anderlecht
121685 fc nordsjaelland
121686 cfr cluj
121687 fc bate borisov
121688 dinamo zagreb
121689 fc basel
121690 fenerbahce sk
121691 lazio roma
121692 newcastle united
121693 tottenham hotspur
121694 rubin kazan
121695 sv zulte waregem
121696 krc genk
121697 club brugge
121698 standard cl
121699 sporting lokeren
121700 cercle brugge
121701 sc napoli
121702 acf fiorentina
121703 udinese calcio
121704 as roma
121705 catania calcio
121706 inter milan
121707 parma ac

Clubs season 2011-12

121715 lille osc
121716 valencia cf
121717 villareal cf
121718 fc porto
121719 ajax amsterdam
121720 olympiacos cfp
121721 trabzonspor
121722 shakhtar donestk
121723 viktoria plzen
121724 krc genk
121725 dinamo zagreb
121726 otelul galati
121727 bate borisov
121728 sporting cp
121729 fc schalke 04
121730 sc hannover 96
121731 az alkmaar
121732 metalist kharkiv
121732 rsc anderlecht
121733 kaa gent
121734 standard cl
121735 kv kortrijk
121736 sporting lokeren
121737 udinese calcio
121738 lazio roma
121739 parma ac
121740 fc bologna
121741 chievo verona

you can notice that there's a gap of some ids between seasons, it's part of a private project.

but I think you can already assign all specific faces to 5 years teams (using jbou addon 5 years teams and single year team)

would be nice if faces are assigned too to 5 years teams (for nt / 5 year database)
like Messi face can be assigned like this:
FC Barcelona 2010-15: Messi face from 2012 or 2013)
if there's only 1 variation, then to 5 years too.

example:

A face from a player of Viktoria Plzen 2014-15 has ideally to be assigned to team Viktoria Plzen 2014-15 AND to team Viktoria Plzen 2010-15 and 2015-20.

@valambrosio2 please consider using EURO 2008 xbox360 graphics.

kingmuro said:

@valambrosio2 please consider using EURO 2008 xbox360 graphics.

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ok, but for now I don't have them except kits, I have all kits from 07 until 10 console and faces from 09.
I also have wcup 06 xbox kits but we can not open them

I'm considering getting all faces from 07, 08 and 10 more logos from euro 08

Could you please, if it is not too much to ask, take into account the clubs in Europe from the 5 big leagues that have won their country's cup from 2010 to 2020.

-Premier League

-Liga Santander

-Serie A

-Bundesliga

-Ligue 1

Is it possible to add this patch to Fifa 14 Classic Patch without replacing the original teams of the patch as an added extra with the clubs up to the present day ?