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World Cup Group B: England v Trinidad & Tobago [P+R]

VanTheMin

Red Card - Life
Life Ban
Bobby said:
You guys know I always defend Crouch, but I thought Mr. Roboto fouled Sancho.


ya. in any other time, the same leap by Roboto would have been a foul awared if it was the mexican referee
 

TOON ARMY

Starting XI
Luis Ah-Hoy said:
Sweden certainly deserves the first place in the group... but of course, i'd always hope England to qualify to the next round...

How is that so?

They deserve it if they beat England next week. They wont though.
 

TOON ARMY

Starting XI
$teauA said:
Yes that's good and all but has it occured to you that Neville is 70 years old and can't take the pace anymore?

How do you come to that conclusion?

The Paraguay game? A game he was carrying a knock and all our players looked jaded in the second half.
 

messi54

Club Supporter
Lampard has been far too eager to get onto the score sheet for two matches already. He better concentrate on making those intelligent passes which he is known for in the Chelsea team instead of taking pot shots. I didn't want to mention it but there are a few selfish characters in this team and this is hurting England's chances. All are great individual talents but team play is really lacking here.

England should also stopped bypassing the midfield and keep the ball on the ground more often for a change.
 

Luis Ah-Hoy

Senior Squad
TOON ARMY said:
How is that so?

They deserve it if they beat England next week. They wont though.

So far, they're deserving it more than England... i played a 1x2 for that game... very imprevisible... i don't see England beating Sweden as well... we'll see... :rolleyes:
 

TOON ARMY

Starting XI
Luis Ah-Hoy said:
So far, they're deserving it more than England... i played a 1x2 for that game... very imprevisible... i don't see England beating Sweden as well... we'll see... :rolleyes:

The table doesn't lie, douchebag.

We have 6 points, they have 4 which means England deserve to be sitting on top.

Football is about results.
 

Luis Ah-Hoy

Senior Squad
TOON ARMY said:
The table doesn't like, douchebag.

We have 6 points, they have 4 which means England deserve to be sitting on top.

Football is about results.

Football is about many things, you twat! :rolleyes:

The outcome is the most important thing. But it's not just what you do, but how you do it. And England aren't doing it very well...
Yes, England are in first place... 2 games, 2 wins.
Bravo!!!
So that means they fully deserve it? Nope. Not at all...

But, it's part of the game. Football is about luck also! It's about the oposition defenders sometimes helping us to achieve our goals... it's about scoring in the 90 minute, in a game that could even go the other way, should the other team had a bit of luck too... :rolleyes:
 

justhammy

Senior Squad
Crouch should be benched. He s*cks! I really wish the best for England but Crouch isnt a good player. He scored against T&T but against a team like Germany or Ecuador wich England are gonna face in the 2nd Round I wouldnt play Crouch! Germany have 2 f*cking big players in the defence so Crouch wouldnt be needed and Ecuador defence is WAY too good for a player who is technicaly WEAK and physicaly also weak! Against Germany England should play as a team and not just play the long ball to Crouch! Rooney and Owen should be upfront! I also didnt understand the sub of Owen. He played a much better game then against Paraguay! He looked good. Now the manager gets all the credit because Crouch scored. And you guys forget that Owen also didnt play alot in the last few months. But, we ll see...if Sven (god what does that manager S*CK!!!) plays Crouch then you can stay dreaming of the WC, because you wont get it!

EDIT: dont start bashing me, because you all know that Crouch isnt good enough to play in this England side!!
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TheBlueBalla

Starting XI
Luis Ah-Hoy said:
Football is about many things, you twat! :rolleyes:

The outcome is the most important thing. But it's not just what you do, but how you do it. And England aren't doing it very well...
Yes, England are in first place... 2 games, 2 wins.
Bravo!!!
So that means they fully deserve it? Nope. Not at all...

But, it's part of the game. Football is about luck also! It's about the oposition defenders sometimes helping us to achieve our goals... it's about scoring in the 90 minute, in a game that could even go the other way, should the other team had a bit of luck too... :rolleyes:
Thats your conclusion? How is Sweden, a team that couldnt get a goal against T&T and had to leave it late against Paraguay, more deserving to be on top of the group. NO TEAM is playing well in this group besides T&T and they dont have the talent to seal the deal

dont let your bias blind you, fool
 

Luis Ah-Hoy

Senior Squad
TheBlueBalla said:
Thats your conclusion? How is Sweden, a team that couldnt get a goal against T&T and had to leave it late against Paraguay, more deserving to be on top of the group. NO TEAM is playing well in this group besides T&T and they dont have the talent to seal the deal

dont let your bias blind you, fool

Bias?! What bias?! :confused:

I don't even make biased comments towards my own club side (S.L. Benfica), why would i be biased towards the Sweden NT?! I don't have any special adoration for them, nor i dislike England... on the contrary, i was really hoping them to show us with some good attacking (and convincing) football (bcoz they've got the talent for that)... and i admire much more some of the english players, than any of the Swedes...

But if England are playing some sh***y, unconvincing football, and Sweden are doing much better, that's not my fault really... I just express what i think from the games i've seen so far from both teams... and Sweden are, so far, playing much much better football than England... i don't watch matches to see goals only... I also want to see good football, good moves, some good passes, some creativity and agressiveness... players striving to win the ball and attack the oposition everytime they can... if a team scores goals, but for the whole 90 minutes, they play awfully and don't convince anyone (apart from a f*ckin' single goal in each game), do you expect anyone to come here and praise them? If you think that Sweden is not playing well, then it's your opinion and i'll respect it... but don't call me a fool just because i have a different opinion... for me, Sweden are playing MUCH 2x better than England, and that's what i can say from what i've seen so far! You don't like it? So, what's new.....?!?! :rolleyes:
 

$teauA

Superstar
TOON ARMY said:
How do you come to that conclusion?

The Paraguay game? A game he was carrying a knock and all our players looked jaded in the second half.

By watching Man Utd games this past season, how else :|?

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I was telling my dad that if that T&T defender would of crashed to the ground the ref would have given a foul. A good goal is a good goal though and it's nice to see England get through (Y)
 

pede54

Team Captain
England aint even got started yet. When you have been following them as long as I have, you get used to starting games in tournies being lacklustre. They will step it up, they always do. I dont have any worries whatsoever, none at all. ;)

I dunno why you fellas get so mad at each other. The World Cup is supposed to be fun.....not war or a time for personal or National vendettas. Just relax fellas. If England go out, so what. I dunno about you lot but there are more wonderful things in my life than how the World Cup pans out.
 

NGAFOOTBALLKING

Senior Squad
pede54 said:
England aint even got started yet. When you have been following them as long as I have, you get used to starting games in tournies being lacklustre. They will step it up, they always do. I dont have any worries whatsoever, none at all. ;)

I dunno why you fellas get so mad at each other. The World Cup is supposed to be fun.....not war or a time for personal or National vendettas. Just relax fellas. If England go out, so what. I dunno about you lot but there are more wonderful things in my life than how the World Cup pans out.

(Y)
 

TheBlueBalla

Starting XI
Luis Ah-Hoy said:
Bias?! What bias?! :confused:

I don't even make biased comments towards my own club side (S.L. Benfica), why would i be biased towards the Sweden NT?! I don't have any special adoration for them, nor i dislike England... on the contrary, i was really hoping them to show us with some good attacking (and convincing) football (bcoz they've got the talent for that)... and i admire much more some of the english players, than any of the Swedes...

But if England are playing some sh***y, unconvincing football, and Sweden are doing much better, that's not my fault really... I just express what i think from the games i've seen so far from both teams... and Sweden are, so far, playing much much better football than England... i don't watch matches to see goals only... I also want to see good football, good moves, some good passes, some creativity and agressiveness... players striving to win the ball and attack the oposition everytime they can... if a team scores goals, but for the whole 90 minutes, they play awfully and don't convince anyone (apart from a f*ckin' single goal in each game), do you expect anyone to come here and praise them? If you think that Sweden is not playing well, then it's your opinion and i'll respect it... but don't call me a fool just because i have a different opinion... for me, Sweden are playing MUCH 2x better than England, and that's what i can say from what i've seen so far! You don't like it? So, what's new.....?!?! :rolleyes:
sweden are not playing much better from what I have seen. Their end product is lacking, and they couldnt bust through against a 10 man T&T. Youre entitled to your opinion, of course, but when you call someone else a twat for expressing theirs, that argument holds less water
 

Kibe Kru

Starting XI
TheBlueBalla said:
Youre entitled to your opinion, of course, but when you call someone else a twat for expressing theirs, that argument holds less water
It wouldn't be a first.

Reading his quote in your post made me think "hypocrite". Don't know why though.
 

Bobby

The Legend
justhammy said:
Crouch should be benched. He s*cks! I really wish the best for England but Crouch isnt a good player. He scored against T&T but against a team like Germany or Ecuador wich England are gonna face in the 2nd Round I wouldnt play Crouch! Germany have 2 f*cking big players in the defence so Crouch wouldnt be needed and Ecuador defence is WAY too good for a player who is technicaly WEAK and physicaly also weak! Against Germany England should play as a team and not just play the long ball to Crouch! Rooney and Owen should be upfront! I also didnt understand the sub of Owen. He played a much better game then against Paraguay! He looked good. Now the manager gets all the credit because Crouch scored. And you guys forget that Owen also didnt play alot in the last few months. But, we ll see...if Sven (god what does that manager S*CK!!!) plays Crouch then you can stay dreaming of the WC, because you wont get it!

EDIT: dont start bashing me, because you all know that Crouch isnt good enough to play in this England side!!

He seems to be the only forward doing anything for England. Rooney isn't fit yet, Owen has been shocking, and Walcott is just a boy.
 

Vinnie Jones

Senior Squad
TheBlueBalla said:
Youre entitled to your opinion, of course, but when you call someone else a twat for expressing theirs, that argument holds less water

Well Toon Army called him a douchebag so i guess "Twat" was a retaliatory comment. Never the less the whole discussion is a pretty worthless. Neither teams have been impressive but i do end up agreeing with Toon Army, the table doesn´t lie. Since England was able to do what Sweden didn´t and beat T&T, i don´t really have any doubt that they deserve to be first. We will find which team is the best when they play each other in the final match.
 

Luis Ah-Hoy

Senior Squad
TheBlueBalla said:
sweden are not playing much better from what I have seen. Their end product is lacking, and they couldnt bust through against a 10 man T&T. Youre entitled to your opinion, of course, but when you call someone else a twat for expressing theirs, that argument holds less water

I called him a "twat", after he had called me "douchebag"... try to pay more attention... :rolleyes:

Kibe Kru you're a coward... try to take me off your Ignore List, and try to understand, at least for once, what i'm trying to say and why do i call names to other people... usually, i don't resort to that... only if i'm pushed to...

Their ending product is lacking... with that i agree! But they've created many dangerous situations against T&T (with and without 10 men)... and my opinion remains, anyway... Sweden are playing much better football than England at the moment...
 


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