canningwayne
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FIFA 2003 VS Pro Evolution Soccer 2 VS This Is Football 2003
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are they all in Australia?
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are they all in Australia?
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Which game is better
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Ebonix
YELLOW CARD - Sarcasm
Pro Evo 2 is much better than both. This is football second then fifa.
With pro evo there are tactics involved, passing and formations and so forth
With fifa the AIs so easy to beat all you have to do i a couple of step overs and your through, also you can only scored from around the edge of the area and into the top corners.
This is football is quite good to play but not as good as pro evo
Pro Evo is king of football sims, with all the new features nothing will be able to stop it
With pro evo there are tactics involved, passing and formations and so forth
With fifa the AIs so easy to beat all you have to do i a couple of step overs and your through, also you can only scored from around the edge of the area and into the top corners.
This is football is quite good to play but not as good as pro evo
Pro Evo is king of football sims, with all the new features nothing will be able to stop it
Ebonix
YELLOW CARD - Sarcasm
I played the last version of fifa and found the professinal level surprisingly easy!
Pro shouldd be top of all of those tables, the only one you had a case with when evo wasn't on top was presentation.
Fifa plays like the older versions still, it was good when it was older and they were the best game out then but now its slipped dramatically!!
The new pro evo will be king
Pro shouldd be top of all of those tables, the only one you had a case with when evo wasn't on top was presentation.
Fifa plays like the older versions still, it was good when it was older and they were the best game out then but now its slipped dramatically!!
The new pro evo will be king
PrimeEight
Club Supporter
Wrong settings
FIFA World cup 2002 on PS2 should be played on/with:
Analogue direction stick
Panoramic camera
Slow-Normal speed
Increased power-up speed
Star abilities off
It's no wonder people think it's a bad game if they play it on default settings. I agree that its terrible. Please give it a go with all the above, and I would put my own copy on the line, that a new world will open up to you.
Someone tell everybody this.
P8
FIFA World cup 2002 on PS2 should be played on/with:
Analogue direction stick
Panoramic camera
Slow-Normal speed
Increased power-up speed
Star abilities off
It's no wonder people think it's a bad game if they play it on default settings. I agree that its terrible. Please give it a go with all the above, and I would put my own copy on the line, that a new world will open up to you.
Someone tell everybody this.
P8
Re: Wrong settings
nah just tell em to get PES
you know im right
nah just tell em to get PES
you know im right
Navajo, there is no way the Gameplay realism of fifa is as realistic as PES
Log-unloader
Club Supporter
The main thing to think about is this:
The people on the side of pes2 will say pes2 and the people on the side of fifa 2003 will say fifa 2003.... but if you look closer then you will notice more and look impartially.
BOTH games have faults... overall you have to say that PES2 is let down by many things, things which should come as standard. what you the consumer would pay £40 for example real names, and decent level of commentary. you can edit the names of teams etc okay but the commentary still says the wrong name so whats the point? the main thing has to be atmosphere too. konami have to improve graphics, commentary and realism, if they outsold EA then surely they could afford a licence for real names???
I was as sceptical about FIFA this year thinking maybe it could be just another year of top graphics & dreadful gameplay. well compared to wcup 2002 the transformation is fantastic, the game flows like a real match, maybe too reaslistic due to having to play a passing game or a long ball depending what situation you are in or sometimes midfield scrappy play occurs just like real life. where as PES2 is more arcade style and seems faster. (you may disagree) winning headers is not as easy as it maybe should be but generally the defenders would win a majority of these. I have scored with a header and think it is all to do with timing. One thing i dont like is the power bars though and think that these should be removed.
PRO EVOLUTION 2
stadia 8/10 (okay not enought though)
commentary 1/10 (hello football freaks????)
team names 1/10 (lake district, europort???)
player names 5/10 (larcos, facu? oranges??)
kits 6/10
crowd 7/10 (sound okay but look false)
player liknesses 5/10 (beckhams mohican???)
gameplay 9/10
A.I. 9/10
refrees 5/10 (too many instant red cards)
competitons 6/10
value 7/10
FIFA 2003
stadia 10/10 (official and a shed load of em)
commentary 9/10 (never repetitve)
team names 10/10 (100% accurate)
player names 10/10 (100% accurate)
kits 10/10 (every official kit even alternate kits)
crowd 10/10 (excellent chants,songs & atmosphere)
player liknesses 8/10
gameplay 8/10 (vast improved, enjoyable tactical)
A.I. 8/10
refrees 10/10 (give warnings, look realistic)
competitons 10/10 (14 leagues, club championship)
value 9/10
you may agree you may not
The people on the side of pes2 will say pes2 and the people on the side of fifa 2003 will say fifa 2003.... but if you look closer then you will notice more and look impartially.
BOTH games have faults... overall you have to say that PES2 is let down by many things, things which should come as standard. what you the consumer would pay £40 for example real names, and decent level of commentary. you can edit the names of teams etc okay but the commentary still says the wrong name so whats the point? the main thing has to be atmosphere too. konami have to improve graphics, commentary and realism, if they outsold EA then surely they could afford a licence for real names???
I was as sceptical about FIFA this year thinking maybe it could be just another year of top graphics & dreadful gameplay. well compared to wcup 2002 the transformation is fantastic, the game flows like a real match, maybe too reaslistic due to having to play a passing game or a long ball depending what situation you are in or sometimes midfield scrappy play occurs just like real life. where as PES2 is more arcade style and seems faster. (you may disagree) winning headers is not as easy as it maybe should be but generally the defenders would win a majority of these. I have scored with a header and think it is all to do with timing. One thing i dont like is the power bars though and think that these should be removed.
PRO EVOLUTION 2
stadia 8/10 (okay not enought though)
commentary 1/10 (hello football freaks????)
team names 1/10 (lake district, europort???)
player names 5/10 (larcos, facu? oranges??)
kits 6/10
crowd 7/10 (sound okay but look false)
player liknesses 5/10 (beckhams mohican???)
gameplay 9/10
A.I. 9/10
refrees 5/10 (too many instant red cards)
competitons 6/10
value 7/10
FIFA 2003
stadia 10/10 (official and a shed load of em)
commentary 9/10 (never repetitve)
team names 10/10 (100% accurate)
player names 10/10 (100% accurate)
kits 10/10 (every official kit even alternate kits)
crowd 10/10 (excellent chants,songs & atmosphere)
player liknesses 8/10
gameplay 8/10 (vast improved, enjoyable tactical)
A.I. 8/10
refrees 10/10 (give warnings, look realistic)
competitons 10/10 (14 leagues, club championship)
value 9/10
you may agree you may not
Originally posted by Log-unloader
FIFA 2003
gameplay 8/10 (vast improved, enjoyable tactical)
A.I. 8/10
value 9/10
you may agree you may not
Totally disagree the above ratings had roflmao VIOLENTLY!
fifa is all presentation but it tastes like monkey sh*t
take 4 points of each of those scores booby.
outcome pes wins pes wins!
Log-unloader
Club Supporter
what does pes2 tatse like? richard smells of monkey sh*t richard smells of monkey sh*t.... 
Originally posted by Log-unloader
what does pes2 tatse like? richard smells of monkey sh*t richard smells of monkey sh*t....
Go **** yer mother yer little gay bastard!
simakperrce
Reserve Team
i have both games (for the PS2) and i like them both. each for what hey are good in.
i have been strictly ISS/PES ever since FIFA 2001 which was the low point in this series and the last game (so i swore to myself) that i would ever get from EA. god knows, why i gave them another chance this year -- but i do not regret it. it's very impressive that an industry behemoth like EA was actually able (and capable) of massively improving a franchise the way they did this time around.
i noticed, that in FIFA you actually sort of build a closer emotional connection to your players, because they behave (dribble, move, celebrate) so real. i was awe-inspired by watching Dortmund's Amoroso or Koller move around on the pitch and one of the first goals i scored was a beautiful Zidane tip in and the way he celebrated it was just awesome. no frantic jumping around or raising arms. no. head down in his typical shy manner and (so it seemed) a little introverted smile. it looked just like what you EXPECT, and that made it so pleasurable. in PES i don't have any emotional connection to Zidane. he is just a player with a bald patch and higher stats, and that's it.
i mean i like my PES2, but sometimes you just want to immerse yourself immediately in those details of the real stuff without having to go through painstakingly setting up strategies, changing names and editing players. especially on those champions-league nights like today. and there FIFA 2K3 doesn't let me down.
i am probably the only one on this planet who thinks that the two of these games build a very nice synergy: some days i feel like strategizing and fighting the CPU in an almost physical fashion. then i pick PES2 which is to me a more "abstract" (albeit sometimes also very sterile) representation of the game. however, if i feel like playing here and now Real vs Roma (as tonight) in Bernabeu with all the tension and excitement and the anticipation i pick FIFA 2k3, which is more a "simulation" of the whole environment thing (fanboys beware: i did not say "simulation" in terms of gameplay).
to give an analogy of what i mean: PES is the "love of your life". you know her since high school. you married her. she'll never let you down or disappoint you. she'll never cheat on you. she'll always be there for you. but sometimes you are craving for a little more excitement and color and authenticity...
i have been strictly ISS/PES ever since FIFA 2001 which was the low point in this series and the last game (so i swore to myself) that i would ever get from EA. god knows, why i gave them another chance this year -- but i do not regret it. it's very impressive that an industry behemoth like EA was actually able (and capable) of massively improving a franchise the way they did this time around.
i noticed, that in FIFA you actually sort of build a closer emotional connection to your players, because they behave (dribble, move, celebrate) so real. i was awe-inspired by watching Dortmund's Amoroso or Koller move around on the pitch and one of the first goals i scored was a beautiful Zidane tip in and the way he celebrated it was just awesome. no frantic jumping around or raising arms. no. head down in his typical shy manner and (so it seemed) a little introverted smile. it looked just like what you EXPECT, and that made it so pleasurable. in PES i don't have any emotional connection to Zidane. he is just a player with a bald patch and higher stats, and that's it.
i mean i like my PES2, but sometimes you just want to immerse yourself immediately in those details of the real stuff without having to go through painstakingly setting up strategies, changing names and editing players. especially on those champions-league nights like today. and there FIFA 2K3 doesn't let me down.
i am probably the only one on this planet who thinks that the two of these games build a very nice synergy: some days i feel like strategizing and fighting the CPU in an almost physical fashion. then i pick PES2 which is to me a more "abstract" (albeit sometimes also very sterile) representation of the game. however, if i feel like playing here and now Real vs Roma (as tonight) in Bernabeu with all the tension and excitement and the anticipation i pick FIFA 2k3, which is more a "simulation" of the whole environment thing (fanboys beware: i did not say "simulation" in terms of gameplay).
to give an analogy of what i mean: PES is the "love of your life". you know her since high school. you married her. she'll never let you down or disappoint you. she'll never cheat on you. she'll always be there for you. but sometimes you are craving for a little more excitement and color and authenticity...
you mean eye candy.
that sexy blonde you accidentally notice on a business trip, she gives you the come on, you go for it, you end back at the hotel and usually find she aint as good as the missus
that sexy blonde you accidentally notice on a business trip, she gives you the come on, you go for it, you end back at the hotel and usually find she aint as good as the missus
simakperrce
Reserve Team
actually THIS blond has a lot more substance and depth than all the previous ones before. this time it's not just about a quickie. it's more like an affair with the potential for "more"...
you should try her before jumping to conclusions...
you should try her before jumping to conclusions...
I have already old boy and can I just say I would have had more fun if I had broke into the morgue window and pulled a cold one from the draw
You do not want to stretch your analogy too far, the argument doesn't work. For one you are dealing with people, with a wife and blonde. People have feelings, games, don't.
Mate all I can say is to find out what is important to you. Personally, I can do with out the flash of a wristband on my player, or the fact that one of my players has a ring. I can do without that. I can't do without strategy and indepth gameplay, the kind that when you score a goal, you jump up, run around the house, as if your favorite team just scored on TV. Depends what is important to you. Find that out and you will know what game to play. Then again, where is the law that says you can't enjoy both?