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Well after playing it for ages

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MightyTic

Senior Squad
Well after playing it for ages


I love PES4 , Human v Human offline best as your opponent is sitting next to you , then online.


I still play most of the game v CPU and its getting very boring!


1. Run with the ball , cpu up your back makes you stagger lose the ball , you do the "exact" same to the cpu Freekick.

2. Cpu runs or walks into a head on challenge, you stagger or do a stupid 360 spin ( no matter even if you player is 6ft 3in and 14st ) you do the same and you may make him stagger and lose the ball, but he gets it back before you can move onto it or it does to one of the cpu's team mates.

3. Headers, long clearances from cpu defence 99 tine out of a 100, your 6ft + defenders on or about the halfway line are beaten to the ball by smaller players ( ok its in the jump , but not this amount of times) and if you player manages to get a head on the ball again most of the time if you win the challenge the ball falls within a yard of where your standing and picked up by the cpu.

ps.. try and header (pass button) down to a team mate , no where near him. cpu 9x out of 10 header finds there team mate.


4. Ping Pong, or deflections. Win a tackle and the ball will break 99.9 time out of 100 to another cpu player either straight to them or near enough for them to get to it first.


5. Button reaction time. What reaction! Time after time in great positions for a shot at goal, you press the shoot button the bar goes up and nothing, oh I forgot theres a cpu player within reach, must give him time to get in a tackle, press shoot again , nothing, tackle is made and your lost the ball. If I press a button be it shoot pass or lob, I want instant reaction. Now if my player is off balance or he's not got the ball under total control OK! he'll miss hit it , his shot will go wide or over or fluke in, his past will be mistimed and could go anywhere same with the lob, so that's life. But at least he would have reacted, again if I press shoot I want my player (Im supposed to be controlling) to kick his leg out at the ball if I press the button for him to do so. Not take 2 or 3 goes at it.

there are more things in game against the CPU but I will make do with the very very annoying one's mentioned.


I know some will same play more against human players offline or online , but that is not always possible. I just hope Konami take heed in PES5. The deflections happen in football games, but not to the extent they do in PES4. Sometime in challenges or collisions the ball hardly moves away from the spot whre the tackle happened and it certainly does not shoot off straight to the nearest opponent.


9/10 Online/Offline human v human

7/10 v CPU
 
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Bummy_JaB

Senior Squad
Im actually still having fun in Master League......Well it's only because I limit myself to buying youngsters and developing them into Stars........

Had I bought the BEST of the BEST or even just all good players I would have been bored by now.........But this young development thing I can do for ages:rockman: :hump:
 
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MightyTic

Senior Squad
Don't get me wrong I love PES , and I can see what Konami were trying to do. But in adding things like deflection they have went over the top.

Now it might be that they could not vary the reaction of the ball, they want shots to hit players and deflect , into the net over the bar and so on. But in adding this they could not tone it down in other parts of the game and this is why its so bad in tackle and in try to control the ball at times. I can see where they wanted shots to hit players and spin off them , but the ball seem to react in the same way either fron some throw ins or soft tackles bumps in to players on the ball, now is fine if a ball defelcts yards when a shot cannons off a player, but not in a head to head bump/tackel.

But as I said , they might not have been able to tone down the reaction of the ball, put it in for one thing and its in for all...


I hope that was what it was for all the things I mentioned in my post and not Konami, building in these things to help the cpu.
 
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Nuno

Starting XI
Re: Well after playing it for ages

Originally posted by MightyTic
Well after playing it for ages


I love PES4 , Human v Human offline best as your opponent is sitting next to you , then online.


I still play most of the game v CPU and its getting very boring!


1. Run with the ball , cpu up your back makes you stagger lose the ball , you do the "exact" same to the cpu Freekick.

2. Cpu runs or walks into a head on challenge, you stagger or do a stupid 360 spin ( no matter even if you player is 6ft 3in and 14st ) you do the same and you may make him stagger and lose the ball, but he gets it back before you can move onto it or it does to one of the cpu's team mates.

3. Headers, long clearances from cpu defence 99 tine out of a 100, your 6ft + defenders on or about the halfway line are beaten to the ball by smaller players ( ok its in the jump , but not this amount of times) and if you player manages to get a head on the ball again most of the time if you win the challenge the ball falls within a yard of where your standing and picked up by the cpu.

ps.. try and header (pass button) down to a team mate , no where near him. cpu 9x out of 10 header finds there team mate.


4. Ping Pong, or deflections. Win a tackle and the ball will break 99.9 time out of 100 to another cpu player either straight to them or near enough for them to get to it first.


5. Button reaction time. What reaction! Time after time in great positions for a shot at goal, you press the shoot button the bar goes up and nothing, oh I forgot theres a cpu player within reach, must give him time to get in a tackle, press shoot again , nothing, tackle is made and your lost the ball. If I press a button be it shoot pass or lob, I want instant reaction. Now if my player is off balance or he's not got the ball under total control OK! he'll miss hit it , his shot will go wide or over or fluke in, his past will be mistimed and could go anywhere same with the lob, so that's life. But at least he would have reacted, again if I press shoot I want my player (Im supposed to be controlling) to kick his leg out at the ball if I press the button for him to do so. Not take 2 or 3 goes at it.

there are more things in game against the CPU but I will make do with the very very annoying one's mentioned.


I know some will same play more against human players offline or online , but that is not always possible. I just hope Konami take heed in PES5. The deflections happen in football games, but not to the extent they do in PES4. Sometime in challenges or collisions the ball hardly moves away from the spot whre the tackle happened and it certainly does not shoot off straight to the nearest opponent.


9/10 Online/Offline human v human

7/10 v CPU
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1. I win most of my tackles. The computer fouls me more than EPL defender fouls C. Ronaldo. My defense is tight and my offense gives the AI headaches.
Solution: Practice. If I can do it, so can you.

2. Refer to # 1.

3. My CB's win at least 85% of headers. Ecspecially tall ass Woodgate.
As for my header passes, they go where I point unless it's contested.
Solution: Refer to # 1's solution.

4. I'm starting to think you really suck at tackling.
Solution: Refer to # 1's solution.

5. My player always react instantly, unless under pressure from the defense or if the ball is too far ahead of him.
Solution: I have no idea what you're talking about.

Question, How long is ages?
 
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houston3721

Senior Squad
CPU's header passing is really accurate.
CPU may cheat and that makes u especially happy with your difficult triumph.

I agree that playing with a friend offline is very interesting. especially during penalty shootout :D
 
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cam3

Club Supporter
Nuno do you work for Konami? Or do you just enjoy kissing their ass for free? How's it taste?
 
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niceman

Senior Squad
After solving graphic problems like tearing and lag my judgement: this game fuc.king rocks big time...better than PES 3 for sure and place for minor improvements...
 
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