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WE6 Impressions

MisterX_K

Reserve Team
for all the PES lovers who couldnt get their hands on a copy of WE6 yet...here are my impressions after 1 week!

this is what i feel is BETTER than PES:

- animations! (every movement now looks much more realistic)

- AI (much improved, there are differences in playing style of the teams, e.g. brazil doesnt play like norway, dont know if the cpu makes tactical changes now, if it substitutes intelligently now or if it even substitutes blue arrow players before the match begins like in ISS Deluxe for SNES)

- passing system (much improved, long balls (also high through balls) are finally effective!)

- shooting system (not much improved but now i feel that there are more different situations which is great! e.g. the ball can bounce from the goalies hands at the post or more often than in PES after a save the ball now goes out for a corner which is superb!)

- freekicks (MUCH improved, finally there's some curl on the shots and they are as easy as in Pro Evo 2 which is great because it was way too hard to score them in PES!!, Beckham has his own freekick technique which he uses also for corners in the game...looks amazing!)

- graphics are even better than PES (now Rivaldo etc. really look life-like, crowd looks better IMO, rain puddles now look WAY better)

- the club editor is great! (first question: if i edit e.g. Owen (Liverpool) and replace him with Anelka (i never would just an example!) will Anelka than appear on the England National Team as well??? second question: can we register created players to club teams??? if not, is there another way to change the order of the players in the club teams)

- club team custom tournaments! (still no club team leagues tho!)

- players now come to the ball MUCH more often so that the game feels MORE dynamic than PES!

that's all i can think of right now but there are more things that are better than in PES, also in gameplay.


NOW:

some NOT-SO-GREAT things:

- you can not select 32/32 club teams in custom tournament and play Human vs. CPU, i dont know about national teams in international cup...

- there are now some slowdowns

- the game is even faster than PES IMO, which i think is not very
realistic!

- it's more difficult to dribble because the game is faster, also the CPU wont foul you when you dribble with R2 (like in PES) but simply steal the ball, at least i noticed this several times but i'm not 100% sure, i gotta play some more games to find out.

- where are all the world cup stadiums? i didnt see them in friendly, are they only in international cup?

alright that's it, i gotta play now :))
 

Neutral LFC

Senior Squad
Re: WE6 Impressions

Originally posted by MisterX_K

- the game is even faster than PES IMO, which i think is not very
realistic!

- it's more difficult to dribble because the game is faster, also the CPU wont foul you when you dribble with R2 (like in PES) but simply steal the ball, at least i noticed this several times but i'm not 100% sure, i gotta play some more games to find out.

- where are all the world cup stadiums? i didnt see them in friendly, are they only in international cup?

Faster than PES? Seriously? I don't think so - I know it's faster than WE5:FE but compared to PES I think it's actually slower. Anyone else want to comment on the speed differences.

Of course, since I think the game is slower you can guess what I'm going to say now right? :) I find the dribbling easier but also sooooooooooo much freedom with the dribbling - I love playing with skilful teams now because I love taking players on one on one - it's just brilliant! I think you'll find the same in time.

re: world cup stadiums - I don't think they're in there to start off with - just another rumour started by ISS/PES sites - like how KCET were going to get rid of the 1-2 system - utter bs.
 

AnaMorph0s|s

Youth Team
I agree with Neutral, I think WE6 is a bit slower than PES, and I don't like it yet, but knowing Konami you know you're gonna start liking it soon. :)

Noticed another great little detail just now. An Argentinian player takes a shot, hits Roberto Carlos's sacred place, leaving him holding his jewels for a couple of seconds, while having tremendous pain. ;)
 

Tim

Youth Team
Originally posted by AnaMorph0s|s
I agree with Neutral, I think WE6 is a bit slower than PES, and I don't like it yet, but knowing Konami you know you're gonna start liking it soon. :)

Noticed another great little detail just now. An Argentinian player takes a shot, hits Roberto Carlos's sacred place, leaving him holding his jewels for a couple of seconds, while having tremendous pain. ;)

Like bulldrig already suggested, I think you've a 50hz tv. PES is in 50hz and WE6 is in 60hz. I played WE6 for the first time just after i played a couple of PES matches. And it's way faster;) If you have a 50hz tv you won't notice the difference between 60hz and 50hz and that's a great difference in speed.
 

MisterX_K

Reserve Team
this is on iss-online.net (secrets), please somebody explain:

A LIST OF TEAM ANNOUNCEMENT(Other clubs and countries.) Win Konami Cup with a club team(choice between clubs and national: 1rst option in Konami Cup). The penultimate choice of the team edit mode will turn from "????" into "- - - -"
Once that you chose a team in the list. Options suggested: :
- Change everything.
- Change Japanese name only.
- Change English name only .
- Change Initial only.
- No change.
In this way you can assign new teams to the place of those of Master League, supporters of Lyon, Nantes, etc..., you know what to do with your pads!
 

HKACM

Club Supporter
MisterX_K,

Agree with u that not able to play 32/32 teams in custom tournament and International Cup (confirm, i tried) is a major let down. On the other hand, that makes my WE5FE not so obsolete. I will write to Konami and voice out!!!!

As for you question on the unlock feature about ML team edit. It just let u to choose the annoucing name of the team when they step out of the pitch.

For example,

Before unlock, the area shows ???

After unlock, it shows ---. A menu pops up for u to select a list of Japanese words. They are the announcing names. Select the correct announcing name from the list and Jon Kabria (spelling?) will announce the team name at the start of the game.

Since the list is in Jap character, you may find the translation in the following site. (couldn't remember which section of the menu, its one of the "new" items in the menu column)

http://isweb15.infoseek.co.jp/play/we5/
 

MisterX_K

Reserve Team
thanks for your response HKACM!

i have another question.
i just found out that you cant register created players to club teams. now please tell me why Konami put the team editor in if we cant REGISTER created players to club teams.

also how do you change the roster order of a club team IF YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO register players?? e.g. you wanna put Anelka in and Heskey on the bench, how do you do that (in editor mode)?

another thing, if you edit the appereance of a club player that is also a national player, will the changes also effect him in his national team?

IF SO, I CANT IMAGINE A WAY OF CREATING YOUR FAVORITE CLUB TEAMS since you are not able to create multiple WE6 option files on 1 memory card, are you? i dont wanna buy a second memory card JUST BECAUSE KONAMI forgot to allow us to register created players to the club teams!!!!

please tell me that i'm wrong and that i'm missing something!

AND THEN PLEASE TELL ME: HOW DO YOU CREATE A WHOLE NEW CLUB TEAM WITH ALL THE NEW PLAYERS AND REPLACE e.g. the south american teams???
 

MisterX_K

Reserve Team
i just played a world cup with France on level 5 (5 stars), imitating the real WC 2002.

the CPU results are now much more realistic!!!
all the good teams win and there are not more than 1 or 2 exceptions like tunesia or equador.

now, it aint frustrating no more!

level 5 is now SO REALISTIC (not too easy, not too hard, no cheating by the CPU!!!) even though i lost against brazil in the final 0-1 after extra time ;)

anyway, i was playing with France and they are the best so it is realistic that their opponents dont have a chance :)

btw.: Rivaldo and Carlos are super intelligent players and one of the best in the game!
also Zidane is great and Trezeguet can really score and Henry as well!

WE6 is so much better than PES!! yes, there are some little flaws still but they occur less often than in PES and furthermore the game is just THAT realistic sorry i repeat myself ;)

okay, now i hope that Rh4psody finish their English patch soon and, HKACM, that you soon tell me that it is possible to create club teams from scratch, without seeing the player changes in the corresponding national teams, and replace the existing club teams and how you do that exactly :)))
 

HKACM

Club Supporter
Originally posted by MisterX_K
thanks for your response HKACM!

i have another question.
i just found out that you cant register created players to club teams. now please tell me why Konami put the team editor in if we cant REGISTER created players to club teams.

also how do you change the roster order of a club team IF YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO register players?? e.g. you wanna put Anelka in and Heskey on the bench, how do you do that (in editor mode)?

another thing, if you edit the appereance of a club player that is also a national player, will the changes also effect him in his national team?

IF SO, I CANT IMAGINE A WAY OF CREATING YOUR FAVORITE CLUB TEAMS since you are not able to create multiple WE6 option files on 1 memory card, are you? i dont wanna buy a second memory card JUST BECAUSE KONAMI forgot to allow us to register created players to the club teams!!!!

please tell me that i'm wrong and that i'm missing something!

AND THEN PLEASE TELL ME: HOW DO YOU CREATE A WHOLE NEW CLUB TEAM WITH ALL THE NEW PLAYERS AND REPLACE e.g. the south american teams???

Hey sorry for the delay, time zone difference mate!

You kept finding out all these flaws in the game may be Konami should hire you to test the game before they release :)

1)
- You are correct! We can't register created players to club teams, period.
- Changes made to players in national team automatically reflects in his club teams and vice versa (I gave Beck some hair and new Preditor boot in ManU, it takes effect in Eng as well)......hmm that explains why we cannot change the nationality of the club players.
- Conclusion, cannot create custom club teams afterall

2) Right, you cannot force the club teams to start a bench player ( Ronaldo stays on the bench for Inter) Can u change the CPU's line up in the ML of WE5FE? (i mean by switching the controller setting from CPU to Human player --> change the formation/line up --> switch back to CPU and play the game). In WE6, you can only change the line up in the national team by using a very annoying method. In the edit mode (register a dummy player (D) in place of a default starter (S)--> register the default starter(S) in place of a bench player (B)--> finally, register the bench player(B) in place of the dummy player(D)) really time consuming........Makes u miss the controller setting function Konami taken out even more :mad:

3) I wish i was wrong too. Its just a shame that they have done such a good job on game play and graphics but fumble in this area and the mutliplayer function. I can see they were trying to do something about customising but did not have enough time to fine tune and recheck to perfect. I think they rushed this game a little bit for the World Cup. Keep your fingers crossed for WE6FE.
 

Bad Blue Boy

Club Supporter
Tim, Bulldrig, could someone explain to me the difference in speed according to the kind of TV set?! Please, I'm not sure is it possible to have the difference at the same system but different TV set. You were talking about TV sets at 50 and 60HZ, in Europe.
I for example have a Sony Trinitron Wega '71 and Samsung (whatever, a new TV) '71. Sony is a 100Hz TV and Samsung 50Hz - I have the impression that the play on Sony is way faster! How come? Could you please explain!
 

MisterX_K

Reserve Team
oh no!

so it is "official"!

the team editor in WE6 is almost USELESS.

fine, this day is destroyed...

why do they give us this club team editor if we cannot register players to the created teams?
they must be totally stupid!
serious question: how can one be THAT retarted?

HKACM, you must be right, they have rushed the game out before the WC. but is it that hard to allow us to register created players to the club teams?

now we have to wait for Haplo's WE6 team editor.
please, haplo, if you read this, make a WE6 editor soon, please!
 

bulldrig

Youth Team
Bad Blue Boy

To be honest i dont know much about that stuff.
But you got a pal tv ,rigth?
That tv of yours should work fine with games that have 50 as well as 60 hz tv,it will optimize by itself.
Howevere you might be have to get a rbg cable to play games from other regions, since there will be no colour
 

Bad Blue Boy

Club Supporter
Yeah, I understand that it is the speed of transfer + the quality of picture but what has it got to do with speed, or is it just smoother picture and so a wrong impression of speed?!
Thanks!
 

Cavegol

Club Supporter
Is it possible to create new teams (i.e. overwriting south american teams) just by modifying existing players and not by registering created players?

I got confused with what I've read about the team editor being useless:(
 

arthur

Youth Team
Cavegol,

Yes, you can use the team editor to change the name, strip and flag of all the Master League clubs. You can also use the Modify Player option to change the name, appearance and skills of every Master League player so you can basically modify all the South American clubs and make then into European clubs with correct stips, players, etc and you don't have to create and register new players at all.

However, the one problem is that when you modify a player for a club side, if that player also plays for a national side, it changes him.
eg, if you change Rivaldo at Barcelona to be John Smith with a big white perm, then John Smith with a big white perm plays for Barcelona and Brazil.

Apparently, there is a way around this problem where you make a base copy of Rivaldo first - MisterX_K knows about how to do it.

The other possible way around the problem is to somehow create 2 options files - one with the original players and teams and one with the modified players and teams.....I don't know how to do this yet - I may have to get another memory card - possibly one memory card for each option file.
 


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