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WC qualification Round 15: Argentina vs. Brazil [P/R]
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Arnau
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XD ok he is a nobody.
btw argentina is **** but will win the world cup, the prophecy can't be broken, they've got the messias wich already remake our history in a single season(2-6 = 0-5; triplete = 5cups team; play style = dream team 90-94; iniestazo = kaiserslautern) and is going to do the same with his national team, maradona team were also crap around Diego.
btw argentina is **** but will win the world cup, the prophecy can't be broken, they've got the messias wich already remake our history in a single season(2-6 = 0-5; triplete = 5cups team; play style = dream team 90-94; iniestazo = kaiserslautern) and is going to do the same with his national team, maradona team were also crap around Diego.
sounds like a tongue-in-cheek comment, but I'll respond to a rather valid perspective ...Arnau;2729372 said:
as everyone knows, there's a lot of Argentinian talent at Maradona's disposal ... why didn't either of the in-form Lisandro López and Diego Milito start in attack? how about Kun? it almost feels like he left his son-in-law on the bench to not be accused of nepotism, instead of thinking about starting one the most talented young stars on the planet ...
and as I asked before why is Cambiasso overlooked when he is fit? and why is Higuaín overlooked when Gago still gets a call-up?
Milito came on with around 20 minutes to go ... but the rest of those aforementioned players could make no contribution to that decisive match ...
having to do the best with average players playing around one star is understandable ... that is NOT the case here ... this is self-induced mediocrity ...
It's more of a Dunga thing...and in 2005's pointless cup and 2006 WC, they had the ultimate Joga Bonito team: Ronaldo, Adriano,Robinho,Kaká and Ronaldinho (who will only make his return after a real life DeLorean is invented) they ended up being pretty sh**. I don't really enjoy watching Brazil that much now...and I prefer Argentina more (they are one of they remaining NTs (or teams) that put skill over strength (I don't think I expressed that very wellXifio;2729348 said:
) and try to pass the ball past their opponent's rather than body their way around...and I want Higuaín to play for France.Arnau;2729357 said:
Diego is the best AM in Serie A
....Dunga has a formula which is working for him now,he's trying to take the risk free method and develop some kind of team chem. (hard for a NT) and their are hundreds of Brazilian player who can't break into the "Seleção". Pato got no minutes in the Confed. Cup and about 10 against Ecuador...during which he had that incredible goal scoring streak. Same goes for many others.I was saying last week that Messi is probably the best player of all-time. If he can take Argentina to World Cup glory...it could (forgive me if you considered this blasphemy)be comparable to Diego in '86 minus that goal.
Anyway the World Cup will suck...no Nigeria
.Sorry for the longish post...
Arnau;2729372 said:
He didn't do it alone, he was a key factor for sure but he had a great colleagues and one hell of the coach. Football changed a lot, it's not like 80s when Maradona single handedly made Argentina and Napoli champions.
And I'm agree with others about Maradona's selection. There are lots of great players that he can select for his team to make impacts. Its foolish to use Messi and Tevez without a natural goal scorer like Milito.
Maybe it's Maradona's fault.....maybe he just can't coach. They should have hired a real coach.
Arnau;2729400 said:^didn't got the sarcasm.
PD: maradona's napoli were a good team, not maradona +10 but diego make from a Uefa team a italian champions.
It was Maradona+10,Napoli became nothing after Maradona, many years in seria B and they won nothing. They won two seria a titles in their history and of course with Maradona.
agreed, I don't like watching them now, and in 2006 they were not bad, but nowhere close to their potential ... but in 2005, they showed flashes of the potential that was brimming under the surface, it was generally thought and expected that they could build on that in 2006 ... they didn't, and it is a colossal shame ...nigerianmiracle;2729396 said:
that is the only philosophy I prefer ... but my point was that that is how Brazil used to play, and that is how they should always play ... winning without that swagger just isn't "Brazilian" ...nigerianmiracle;2729396 said:I prefer Argentina more (they are one of they remaining NTs (or teams) that put skill over strength (I don't think I expressed that very well
haha, and he has said that he may still do so ... but he doesn't speak French, you know ...nigerianmiracle;2729396 said:
hard luck ... it's not over, but it is certainly Tunisia's spot to throw away now ... the current Nigerian crop aren't as talented as the group in the 90s ... it doesn't excuse them from being unable to beat their main group rivals at home, and especially not from drawing with Mozambique ... it just means that the expectation can't be as high as it was back then, and it's time that Nigeria realizes that and builds with patience ...nigerianmiracle;2729396 said:Anyway the World Cup will suck...no Nigeria
Aimar!Arnau;2729388 said:
Gene Reginato
Youth Team
kp40;2729409 said:
Careca played for Napoli. There were other great players in the team.
Gene Reginato
Youth Team
Maybe, but Careca is only behind Coutinho, Romario and Ronaldo as strikers in Brazil. He was considered a great player wherever he played.
Gene Reginato
Youth Team
Arnau;2729495 said:
Not as high rated as Careca around here. Bebeto played in Europe for a longer while, but Careca was already a legend (and older) before going.
Gene Reginato
Youth Team
kp40;2729516 said:
I don't know if it has changed, but Careca has always been more popular.
Maybe it has to do with the fact that Bebeto always played as SS to Careca or Romario.
Of course Bebeto has a big advantage: he was World Champion.
But somehow, I don't remember anyone, ever, saying Bebeto in the same breath as Ronaldo, Romario and Careca.
