MelvinSmiley
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ShearerM4;2897452 said:
Also Lamps argued with the ref after his kick, instead of going towards Müller.
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WC Matchday 17: [GER v ENG] + [ARG v MEX]
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Also Lamps argued with the ref after his kick, instead of going towards Müller.
MelvinSmiley
Reserve Team
BTW, Ballack will be visiting the team tomorrow, hopefully he leaves his bad luck home....
Xifio;2897441 said:
What are you on about? I didn't say the linesman wasn't where he should be, all I'm saying is that with just a tiny bit of technology, all this could be avoided. Even without technology, a blind man could have seen the ball go in, but whatever.
And about all this hype talk, I'm getting sick of it. There are one or two people here who think they are enlightened in the world of football, the heirs of Michels and Happel. Give me a ******* break. Just because you say England are crap after they lose doesn't make you savants. Of course England don't have the team that the press thinks they have, but that was never in point over here in the forums, where people actually watch football. First of all, England did do a good qualifying, good enough to at least presume they wouldn't flop so big this time around. Did they? Perhaps, but there is no doubt that they don't lack the players. No one is saying there are the best in the world, but you guys almost seem like you're creating a backwards hype, saying the England players are worst than they actually are. And for once just get down your self-built pedestals of all knowingness in football and accept that not everyone is all wrong or all right.
ShiftyPowers
Make America Great Again
ShearerM4;2897459 said:
He's old, this should be it for him.
Taking this in a new direction, does anyone have a historical comparison for Thomas Muller? He doesn't remind me of anyone. His body, position, style of play, and technique seem very unique.
Sevillista
Starting XI
No, Arsenal frequently look impressive. England never do.Ulysses;2897451 said:
ShiftyPowers
Make America Great Again
Filipower;2897461 said:
Totally agree. A++
I'll actually dish out my first positive rep in what must be 2 years.
MelvinSmiley
Reserve Team
ShiftyPowers;2897462 said:
His body, lol....he has none, hes kind of a cripple. Also ugly as hell. Said it many times, i hate this guy. But i admit, he is very cool in his action as he is in interviews. Kind of scary considering his age.
Gene Reginato
Youth Team
In my years following English football. as a foreigner, I believe there problem is:
Too proud of its league: Yes, the greatest players in the world play in the EPL and La Liga, but it doesn't mean other leagues don't have great players. It maskarades your true potential.
Overhype: Yes, Gerrard and Lampard and Rooney are fantastic, but they aren't the only great players in the world.
No depth in the squad: 3 or 4 good players don't make a great team.
Big stars on their heads: Glen Johnson doesn't become a world beater because he plays alongside the stars, neither is James, Upson and others. If one doesn't have a sense of oneself, one doesn't contribute as much as he could.
Too proud of its league: Yes, the greatest players in the world play in the EPL and La Liga, but it doesn't mean other leagues don't have great players. It maskarades your true potential.
Overhype: Yes, Gerrard and Lampard and Rooney are fantastic, but they aren't the only great players in the world.
No depth in the squad: 3 or 4 good players don't make a great team.
Big stars on their heads: Glen Johnson doesn't become a world beater because he plays alongside the stars, neither is James, Upson and others. If one doesn't have a sense of oneself, one doesn't contribute as much as he could.
Sevillista
Starting XI
I've been saying they're crap the whole time.Filipower;2897461 said:
And I know it doesn't make me a savant. That would be far too much credit for simply acknowledging what has been plain to see for 6+ years.
ShiftyPowers
Make America Great Again
ShiftyPowers;2897462 said:
Johnny Rep, maybe? Any Dutch care to disagree?
agreed ... I think it could have been avoided even with just an extra touchline official looking right down the goal-line ...Filipower;2897461 said:
and how are you making this judgment? from your seat in the stadium? for some who has decided to have a go at others for being know-it-alls without a paradigm of grey areas, you seem to be making a lot of absolute observations ...Filipower;2897461 said:
I'll not take the bait at the personal attack, coz it is just not worth responding to ...Filipower;2897461 said:
but I will correct one thing: this is not the first time I am speaking out about English football and their national team ... I think my track record in that department has been well-established on this forum ... so my posts are not an attempt to kick them when they are down; but it is a bit of "I told you so" ... I think that applies to Sevillista too, though I will let him speak for himself ...
as for their qualifying campaign; well, I think their group was not the most difficult to negotiate, and the runner-up from the group failed to qualify to the finals ... and their most impressive win was against Croatia, who are clearly not the the team they were in 2008, and who finished 3rd in the group behind Ukraine ...
in the friendlies against the bigger nations, England never looked like a major threat, but even I am ready to accept that friendly matches aren't the best guide to a team's ability ...
I just find nothing else to justify the belief that England are better than they have shown at this World Cup ... even watching those English players play for their clubs, I have emphasized time and again (even just before the World Cup in the England National Team thread) the importance of the foreign players in their respective teams to do the hard yards for them ... those big names are considered big because an English product needs English poster players ... and I'm not saying they are worse than they are; I am saying that they aren't as good as the hype makes them out to be ...
MelvinSmiley
Reserve Team
fender;2897493 said:
What should Capello do? To me it was more a mistake to take off Milner, just as he finally could get behind Boateng.
If Heskey was to come on, at least for a defender or something. Like for like with Defoe was crazy.
Especially given that:
1. We needed a goal, then very soon after, goals.
2. All our chances were coming from playing balls to feet and never from high balls in.
No not crazy, stupid.
Especially given that:
1. We needed a goal, then very soon after, goals.
2. All our chances were coming from playing balls to feet and never from high balls in.
No not crazy, stupid.
when there is talk of surprise at the "big names" not performing, I think it is pertinent to bring up hype ... EDIT: and it isn't tabloid hype I am referring to, it is the Prem's and the TV coverage's marketing platform -- ever watched a Prem league match or even the review show and heard their hype of the league and its players? it is product marketing hype, not just tabloid hype ...Filipower;2897482 said:
and there is nothing you have pointed out that I have missed in my analysis of England or their players over the years ... if you have indeed laughed off the hype, then I would be questioning your judgment, or at least your criteria of judgment, in this matter ...