[WC 2022 & Euro 2020 & Season 20-21 v4 Released] (Unofficial) 2020s add-on for CP14

[V.K]

I guess next row will be UCL 32 teams 21-22 right?

I think first I'll release 20-21, but then we proceed to 21-22, yes.

I added almost all of them in my addon by a good part of ids are clashing with either CP 4.0 stadiums table or the ones you already added.

Regarding stadiums I plan to take it slow, because there are not so many vacant IDs that currently don't clash with anything, so first I added Euro 2020 stadiums, now WC 2022 (as they are released) and then for top European teams one by one.

Now, regarding the 20-21 DB, I have updated all the teams for UCL besides the ones I have no idea about (Brugge, Dynamo Kyiv, Midtjylland, Ferencváros, Istanbul Başakşehir, Olympiacos, Red Bull Salzburg, Shakhtar Donetsk - these are only updated to the best of my knowledge and basic Wikipedia info; @ovide said he'd take care of them (complete bottom-16) and @valambrosio2 maybe you know about Brugge 20-21 and how they played).

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It may be a good idea to at least import the players from the 21-22 and 22-23 teams, maybe they stayed at the club and would be available to be added to 20-21 teams, such as:
Lokomotiv - Pablo; Olympiacos - Reabciuk, Kenny Lala, Salzburg - Forson Amankwah, Man Utd - Elanga.

Or at least with 21-22 teams first ensure the winter transfers in HBZ DB (maybe there were some other users' winter transfer DB updates).

 

[valambrosio2]

I think first I'll release 20-21, but then we proceed to 21-22, yes.


Regarding stadiums I plan to take it slow, because there are not so many vacant IDs that currently don't clash with anything, so first I added Euro 2020 stadiums, now WC 2022 (as they are released) and then for top European teams one by one.

nice idea, let this aside for now add the ones you need, but for Atalanta for example I assigned Atleti Azzuri since Gewiss is not on CP.

Now, regarding the 20-21 DB, I have updated all the teams for UCL besides the ones I have no idea about (Brugge, Dynamo Kyiv, Midtjylland, Ferencváros, Istanbul Başakşehir, Olympiacos, Red Bull Salzburg, Shakhtar Donetsk - these are only updated to the best of my knowledge and basic Wikipedia info; @ovide said he'd take care of them and @valambrosio2 maybe you know about Brugge 20-21 and how they played).

I think you can rely either on fifa 21 squads update from post winter DLC or even sites like transfermarkt since their are actual teams well followed on those sites.

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It may be a good idea to at least import the players from the 21-22 and 22-23 teams, maybe they stayed at the club and would be available to be added to 20-21 teams, such as:
Lokomotiv - Pablo; Olympiacos - Reabciuk, Kenny Lala, Salzburg - Forson Amankwah, Man Utd - Elanga.

Or at least with 21-22 teams first ensure the winter transfers in HBZ DB (maybe there were some other users' winter transfer DB updates).

best way is to list the players and import them after then relink them to the teams
OR
wait for addition of 21-22 teams and assign the players to their 20-21 team as well, but the first solution is better

 

[V.K]

Well, looks like we're officially starting 20-21

But it feels like it will be far from a fast process

1. Some teams go crazy on kits

2. Even with Harry Bullzak's files, there are a lot of things missing for my perfectionist taste:
- we need at least 1 authentic generic adboard for EPL, La Liga, Serie A, Ligue 1 (+ probably Russian PL)
- ideally, we need authentic adboards for all 32 teams (+ however many NQs);
- we're going to need domestic balls for all those teams (I'm not a fan of CP's solution to use UCL adboards and ball for "FIFA" section but it depends whether we can find the content);
- of course we'll need UCL/domestic kits, numbers, fonts for the likes of Midtjylland, Ferencváros, Istanbul Başakşehir and personally I'm not even going to get there, they are of least priority for me after all top teams of 3 seasons.

So all the help will be welcome.

One day we'll get there

 

[FinoAllaFineADP]

1. Some teams go crazy on kits

Where do you find this kind of pics?

 

[V.K]

Where do you find this kind of pics?

Wikipedia, e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020–21_Borussia_Dortmund_season

 

[valambrosio2]

2. Even with Harry Bullzak's files, there are a lot of things missing for my perfectionist taste:
- we need at least 1 authentic generic adboard for EPL, La Liga, Serie A, Ligue 1 (+ probably Russian PL)
- ideally, we need authentic adboards for all 32 teams (+ however many NQs);
- we're going to need domestic balls for all those teams (I'm not a fan of CP's solution to use UCL adboards and ball for "FIFA" section but it depends whether we can find the content);
- of course we'll need UCL/domestic kits, numbers, fonts for the likes of Midtjylland, Ferencváros, Istanbul Başakşehir and personally I'm not even going to get there, they are of least priority for me after all top teams of 3 seasons.

So all the help will be welcome.

One day we'll get there

in a first time I think you can find most domestic balls, adboards in HBZ main mod files, ot all teams but most of them. Then you can improve later with details in the future. I prefer domestic balls and adboards assigned to teams as well, UCL only actived for the tournament

 

[ovide]

Well, looks like we're officially starting 20-21

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But it feels like it will be far from a fast process

1. Some teams go crazy on kits
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2. Even with Harry Bullzak's files, there are a lot of things missing for my perfectionist taste:
- we need at least 1 authentic generic adboard for EPL, La Liga, Serie A, Ligue 1 (+ probably Russian PL)
- ideally, we need authentic adboards for all 32 teams (+ however many NQs);
- we're going to need domestic balls for all those teams (I'm not a fan of CP's solution to use UCL adboards and ball for "FIFA" section but it depends whether we can find the content);
- of course we'll need UCL/domestic kits, numbers, fonts for the likes of Midtjylland, Ferencváros, Istanbul Başakşehir and personally I'm not even going to get there, they are of least priority for me after all top teams of 3 seasons.

So all the help will be welcome.

One day we'll get there

Harry posted generic adboard for leagues and for teams I think

 

[V.K]

Harry posted generic adboard for leagues and for teams I think

With all respect to Harry, he couldn't do everything 100% correct on his own.
I'm checking the 20-21 mod now and yes there is a generic EPL adboard, and there is a Chelsea adboard, but both of them have "FIFA 19" ads, meaning they're probably from the 18-19 season.
Better than nothing of course, but will require improvement for me.

Then you can improve later with details in the future.

How about this course of action, while you're here with your swift DB editing skills:
Maybe you can add all the 20-21, 21-22, 22-23 UCL and top European teams into the CP14 DB, and I will start working with the graphics I have, but for public releases I will delete the "unfinished" teams, while keeping my "WIP" DB still with all the teams?
Or maybe add the teams but not assign them to leagues?
Just thinking of the best way to have steady releases but without people asking "why team X doesn't have kits"...

 

[valambrosio2]

With all respect to Harry, he couldn't do everything 100% correct on his own.
I'm checking the 20-21 mod now and yes there is a generic EPL adboard, and there is a Chelsea adboard, but both of them have "FIFA 19" ads, meaning they're probably from the 18-19 season.
Better than nothing of course, but will require improvement for me.


How about this course of action, while you're here with your swift DB editing skills:
Maybe you can add all the 20-21, 21-22, 22-23 UCL and top European teams into the CP14 DB, and I will start working with the graphics I have, but for public releases I will delete the "unfinished" teams, while keeping my "WIP" DB still with all the teams?
Or maybe add the teams but not assign them to leagues?
Just thinking of the best way to have steady releases but without people asking "why team X doesn't have kits"...

if we search I think we can find. Anyway, all teams kits are present right? balls as well, I think maybe FIP 16 version has more content updated I guess

 

[valambrosio2]

How about this course of action, while you're here with your swift DB editing skills:

XD now you see why we say many times with all stuff we have in matter of databases since console era converted stuff (07 season even 06), we can get complete top leagues 100 teams per seasons in CP db in a matter of 1 week, maybe a few days working some hours per day, but then? what's the point? there's a giant whole to find, assign, fix, create or convert graphics.

 

[valambrosio2]

XD now you see why we say many times with all stuff we have in matter of databases since console era converted stuff (07 season even 06), we can get complete top leagues 100 teams per seasons in CP db in a matter of 1 week, maybe a few days working some hours per day, but then? what's the point? there's a giant whole to find, assign, fix, create or convert graphics.

and using this and with CP existing stuff, creating the 10 % missing players for whole season 04/05 seems rather few work, and then you go back 10% per 10 %.... but again graphics missing, we are not hundreds of people working on this so we have to cope with this

 

[valambrosio2]

@V.K

https://soccergaming.com/index.php?threads/roberto001s-super-adboards.184095/page-2

https://soccergaming.com/index.php?threads/jochemlfc2s-graphics.6468030/page-3

sure that FIP 16 has updated stuff on it, but hard to find all authors

 

[V.K]

XD now you see why we say many times with all stuff we have in matter of databases since console era converted stuff (07 season even 06)

So what do you think about this approach?

Maybe you can add all the 20-21, 21-22, 22-23 UCL and top European teams into the CP14 DB, and I will start working with the graphics I have, but for public releases I will delete the "unfinished" teams, while keeping my "WIP" DB still with all the teams?

Maybe having all the players in one DB already will help, and I won't have to ask you to add one season, then another (also you kinda disappeared before for a while, so just being cautious )

 

[ovide]

@V.K do the changes you do to the db or wait the 3 seasons then I will edit the top bottom ucl teams

 

[ovide]

@ovide @V.K here is the CP addon 2020 db with all 32 UCL teams added properly, leagues 20-21 created as well.

CDAddon2020db2021

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There's no graphic at all, you have to import or duplicated everything needed

kits
adboard
ball
kitnumbers
banners and flags
teams logos
duplicate leagues logos for 20-21 leagues
stadiums (assigned the existing ones, generic for missing ones)
minifaces for new players
check missing new faces to add from fifa 21 Facepack

Just one thing: the formation are still specific, to avoid bugs I suggest anyway to reassign generic matching ones and check teams compositions and roles after

But the db is done almost entirely

Glad to help for next expansion

this database is wrong, there is not sevila @V.K @Valambrosio2

 

[V.K]

this database is wrong, there is not sevila @V.K @Valambrosio2

@valambrosio2 I'll send you this DB with all top teams updated and maybe you can add Sevilla (and other teams 20-21 or 21-22-23).

By the way, does anyone have an idea if we can add several balls to a league?
EPL started using a lot of balls in the 2020s: up to 3 including the winter version:

@Jbou from what I can see decided to add 1 ball per league with the 2010s Update, which is a fair solution as well.

But being the attention-to-detail freak that I am, I would love to add all 3.

Option 1:
RM14 docs state that condition is 0 for normal, 1 for winter ball and 2 for snow ball, meaning that potentially 3 balls are possible, but they might depend on the snow/winter weather effects activation.

Option 2:
Assign these balls on random to the EPL teams, e.g. Chelsea 21-22 will have the black-and-white ball, Man City 21-22 will have the yellow-and-blue one and Liverpool 21-22 - white-and-sky-blue.
(I think I prefer this option for guaranteed variety and use of all the balls)

 

[valambrosio2]

So what do you think about this approach?


Maybe having all the players in one DB already will help, and I won't have to ask you to add one season, then another (also you kinda disappeared before for a while, so just being cautious )

mate, I think it's a nice idea, so you can forward me ids on private to use please? but it won't' be as quick as one season for now maybe let add 20-21 graphics in the meantime no?

 

[ukwe]

@valambrosio2 I'll send you this DB with all top teams updated and maybe you can add Sevilla (and other teams 20-21 or 21-22-23).

By the way, does anyone have an idea if we can add several balls to a league?
EPL started using a lot of balls in the 2020s: up to 3 including the winter version:

@Jbou from what I can see decided to add 1 ball per league with the 2010s Update, which is a fair solution as well.

But being the attention-to-detail freak that I am, I would love to add all 3.

Option 1:
RM14 docs state that condition is 0 for normal, 1 for winter ball and 2 for snow ball, meaning that potentially 3 balls are possible, but they might depend on the snow/winter weather effects activation.

Option 2:
Assign these balls on random to the EPL teams, e.g. Chelsea 21-22 will have the black-and-white ball, Man City 21-22 will have the yellow-and-blue one and Liverpool 21-22 - white-and-sky-blue.
(I think I prefer this option for guaranteed variety and use of all the balls)

Did Jbou add leagues balls in his addon? I think he limited himself to UCL balls (makes sense, leagues didn't exist when he started his addon). Besides that, unless you don't mind it, the balls have even less free IDs (you will run out of balls). For that, and since the CP is more of a recollection of the best of each season than a season patch, I recommend to stick to only one ball per league per season

 

[V.K]

Did Jbou add leagues balls in his addon?

Yes, after Giggi released the "domestic" restructuring, Jbou also released a huge update with tonnes of domestic stuff for 2010-2020.

Besides that, unless you don't mind it, the balls have even less free IDs

IDs are not a problem. Only UCL balls will be available for menu selection, just like with Jbou add-on, all domestic balls will be assigned as specificball rx3s.

 

[ukwe]

Yes, after Giggi released the "domestic" restructuring, Jbou also released a huge update with tonnes of domestic stuff for 2010-2020.


IDs are not a problem. Only UCL balls will be available for menu selection, just like with Jbou add-on, all domestic balls will be assigned as specificball rx3s.

Ohhhh that why I never saw the balls, I've never opened any leagues. Will try that in the future.