Next time a different group might end up having the US on a run like 2002. With all due respect to the MLS, it's players are either too old or simply dont have the skills to match its European or South American counterparts.
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WC 2006 - Ghana vs USA (June 22nd)
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SlayerDeuS
Starting XI
Run DMB said:
You are soooo right. Who is going to replace Reyna? Not his talent and presence or leadership cuz he wasn't really that good, but physically who plays central midfield? Mastroeni I guess, but then who will he team with? Personally I'm glad Keller is out of the WC, although he has had terrible luck in WC's, if all these commentators are calling him the "greatest in the world" which is pure crap, he should make a spectacular save or two worthy of the "greatest in the world". I think all the blame on Beasley was really unwarrented in the first game he did not have a good game, but really he just played within the game and I think he was just trying to prove a point that he was out of position. The real culprits of the failure of this US team were:
*Oguchi Onyewu: Horrible defender who just bullies guys around, bad technique and his head was never in the game probably due to nerves. All three Czech goals and the PK were his fault plain and simple.
*Landon Donovan: What else can I say? If you want the hype, the video game and magazine covers, then step up you pussy or be ready to receive criticism.
*Claudio Reyna: Failing to lead his team when they were down early and for his play in general, getting dominated in the midfield.
*Bruce Arena: tactics, leadership, blaming players/refs, making excuses
Not true. Onyewu was solid vs. Italy and played well today. Can't blame him for the penalty, that was just a bad call. The Czech goals resulted from collective errors, not just Onyewu's. I think he's been the least of our concerns.SlayerDeuS said:
I agree. One pretty good game vs. Italy does not excuse two poor performances in our other two games.SlayerDeuS said:
Disagree. Reyna played well in all our games, up until the costly error today.SlayerDeuS said:
Agree.SlayerDeuS said:
johnnybrubacker
Youth Team
Run DMB said:
Onyewu wasnt solid but lucky in the Italy game. He made many rash challenges and was lucky to be on the field compared to the other sending offs and general decisions by the ref. I guess it balanced out for him against Ghana. But i must give USA respect for their performance against Italy, they showed a lot of heart which was missing from their other games.
ShiftyPowers
Make America Great Again
J_J_Okocha said:thanx for bringing this bull**** to a soccer forum.everytime the USA bows out they always have to bring up economic things. Soccer is not about economics. Ghana is a really poor country, but it beat the world super power of USA. if wanna take it there.
That's always what they say, they can't respond and so they go "don't bring this to a soccer forum." What was I responding to guy? I was responding to a guy who called the entire population of the United States "retarded" because as a whole it doesn't enjoy soccer. Now I could have attacked this outrageous logical fallacy in a number of ways. I could have pointed out that enjoying or appreciated a GAME does not have anything to do with intelligence, but you know just as well as I do that he would have matched that with an "lolz ya rite dumb amercan!!!11" So instead I attacked his notion of Americans being "retarded" by explaining to him numerous instances in which not only are we decidedly not retarded, but we were at the top of the world in things that require a good deal of intelligence.
I was not directing it towards Ghana, but rather to idiots like the guy I was responding to. In this case, that idiot was not you Okocha (hm... a Nigerian name, seems odd to be a big Nigerian fan if you're from Ghana, but whatever), but for some reason you felt the need to interject yourself into a conversation that you weren't involved in. And then you try to "refute" what I say with "this is a soccer forum!" So what? Soccer is heavily involved in politics, in fact a professor I had this past semester for African International Relations' research is centered around the politicizing of soccer in Africa. So you interjected yourself into a conversation you weren't welcome in, and then you advance such a limited and stupid position like this one. So while I was not set out to prove that you are in fact, and idiot, Okocha, you have gone and proven it yourself. Congratulations, you are stupid.
Once again, your response does not match what I said. Who cares if Ghana sucks economically, but they beat America. That has nothing to do with what I said. I said "America is not retarded, we are smarter than your country, look at these facts". But of course, as I said before, you're stupid and couldn't grasp my argument, so you interjected yourself into a conversation and then advanced a completely unnecessary opinion.
untouchable
Senior Squad
USA just didn't bring it I'm afraid. Doesnt matter because the US will continue to produce better players and improve. The soccer movement is only begining in the US.
johnnybrubacker
Youth Team
who was that to.. his players?
ShiftyPowers said:
LMAO, you sir are a retard. I did not call the american population 'retarded', i said that the majority of americans will never understand the beauty of 'soccer.' From this sentence, i mean the AMERICANS who are following the WORLD CUP and were expecting something else from the U.S team. :boohoo:
The fact that americans love to watch sports with high-scores(i.e except for baseball sometimes) fall into the hype with the whole "U.S SOCCER ATTACKS" ad bull****. Those americans who were beginning to follow the U.S soccer NT obviously got dissapointed with this performance, and I might even say that they might've felt "betrayed" by all the hype. Just look at the earlier post where some dumbass american posted that soccer players were a bunch of 'fairies' and prefer to watch american football. That person obviously is pissed that his team lost, but he is CRITICIZING soccer as a whole. That is why the majority of americans following the sport will never understand the beauty of it. He proved my point
NOW **** OFF YOU RETARD
Jedi Mind Trick
Starting XI
mod, please give this guy a warning...i wouldn't want to see this thread closed yet because i'm sure there are folks who haven't watched the game yet or have something productive to post later.
Voltaic Borusse
Fan Favourite
Italy game aside, the US players seemed timid and devoid of any emotion. What's the deal?
SlayerDeuS
Starting XI
Voltaic Borusse said:
Exactly, because most of the players like Donovan simply were not hungry. You can tell that he could care less when he was on the field, this has everything to do with confidence (hasn't scored in 17 straight internationals) and being way way way too over-hyped. Being on magazines and other covers made Landon think he had accomplished alot while in actuality he hasn't done **** after running scared from Germany.
; dempsey and johnson are the only decent players in that team.Jedi Mind Trick
Starting XI
hiddink is now contracted to russia.
SlayerDeuS
Starting XI
Jurgen Klinnsman perhaps? He lives in America, knows the language, and he's the man!