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Wat the hell.. if this is true... a boycott is called for..

khseol

Youth Team
you are all true idiots...blame who you want..this has been clearly explained many times...and if any of you idiots would think with your brain you would know already...the reason pes4 xbox is online and ps2 we8 and pc we8/pes4 is not is simple....whenever you play a pc or ps2 game online...you pay the game maker or whichever network they are using..for the right to meet/play on their servers..or in many cases especially pc..you have independent networks etc..which all cost tons of money in bandwidth...(i used to work for mciworldcom..go inquire what a lil oc12 leases for a month...not funny i will tell you)servers cost money..all other network equipment..upkeep...it takes alot of equipment and manpower if konami were to setup their own gaming network..they cant even afford all licenses..you think they are going to build a network from ground up?(please go learn how to setup a true gaming network before you comment)..which is what they would have to do for ps2 or pc online play(or buy into a network)....with xbox....and xbox live..you have a network in place..they dont have to buy/setup/start anything..merely code it into the game..done....and let xbox/ms worry about the network/performance/bandwidth etc...which is much easier and cheaper for konami.....not to mention they can learn from it as well..for their own network soon hopefully...but the downside is...konami will make less money by having online play go through xbox live.....this is one of the reasons EA tried hard not to include online play on xbox titles last year because they were protesting because they wanted all the money rather than ms get it all.....but i dont really care who gets the money because they are all evil as far as im concerned.....all i care is how good the service is....so cry..whine..beg and complain and boycott all you want you ps2 kiddies......simple fact is..they did this for a reason..i love my ps2 as well...especially my we8...but im not going to be childish and not play xbox just because i own a ps2..its a damb game for christs sake,,play both..nobody is paying u to take a side..sony or ms....or nintendo....and if you hate xbox or pes4 xbox just because u cant afford one..then be a man and admit it..dont just say it sucks,,because it doesnt....anyone that owns both will tell you....both have their pros and cons....and since neither is perfect..once again..play both its a game have fun.....
 

Han

Senior Squad
Reefur, let me try to answer the main part of this post you putted so dis-respectful:
You pointed partly to me. I said Konami wants a secure network and for that reason they do that on the Xbox live.
Konami told about 1 year ago they wanted a network for their PC game (PES 3 was announced for the PC).
I believe what you said about being expensive, but when you get somany gamers, paying for playing on it, they may make money with it. That's the part you did not mention.
Apart from that, why are we idiots if we talk about a plan from Konami?
If you plan to answer on this I like to ask you to do that less aggressive and respectless. You don't make friends that way. People will ignore you then in the future.
 

Tom

That Nice Guy
screw the XBOX, and screw online play, ill keep playing it on PS2 against myself, i can use both hands for two controllers.

i also sometimes have a go at myself, like 2 sets of fans shouting :)

I'd say im pretty normal..

TROD.
 

EugeneF

Banned
Life Ban
Originally posted by khseol
you are all true idiots...blame who you want..this has been clearly explained many times...and if any of you idiots would think with your brain you would know already...the reason pes4 xbox is online and ps2 we8 and pc we8/pes4 is not is simple....whenever you play a pc or ps2 game online...you pay the game maker or whichever network they are using..for the right to meet/play on their servers..or in many cases especially pc..you have independent networks etc..which all cost tons of money in bandwidth...(i used to work for mciworldcom..go inquire what a lil oc12 leases for a month...not funny i will tell you)servers cost money..all other network equipment..upkeep...it takes alot of equipment and manpower if konami were to setup their own gaming network..they cant even afford all licenses..you think they are going to build a network from ground up?(please go learn how to setup a true gaming network before you comment)..which is what they would have to do for ps2 or pc online play(or buy into a network)....with xbox....and xbox live..you have a network in place..they dont have to buy/setup/start anything..merely code it into the game..done....and let xbox/ms worry about the network/performance/bandwidth etc...which is much easier and cheaper for konami.....not to mention they can learn from it as well..for their own network soon hopefully...but the downside is...konami will make less money by having online play go through xbox live.....this is one of the reasons EA tried hard not to include online play on xbox titles last year because they were protesting because they wanted all the money rather than ms get it all.....but i dont really care who gets the money because they are all evil as far as im concerned.....all i care is how good the service is....so cry..whine..beg and complain and boycott all you want you ps2 kiddies......simple fact is..they did this for a reason..i love my ps2 as well...especially my we8...but im not going to be childish and not play xbox just because i own a ps2..its a damb game for christs sake,,play both..nobody is paying u to take a side..sony or ms....or nintendo....and if you hate xbox or pes4 xbox just because u cant afford one..then be a man and admit it..dont just say it sucks,,because it doesnt....anyone that owns both will tell you....both have their pros and cons....and since neither is perfect..once again..play both its a game have fun.....

First of all...WRITE LIKE A MOTHER******* NORMAL PERSON? Are you an idiot or something that you write like that?

KONAMI doesn't have to do anything on the PC except setup one pathetic server to handle validiation if they want and otherwise server as a list of servers which users are currently hosting. Not very demanding stuff to be honest.
 


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