a sadly unfortunate truth$teauA;2435420 said:this is becoming cliche
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a sadly unfortunate truth$teauA;2435420 said:this is becoming cliche
TheGrimSweeper;2436087 said:The sad part is suspending and banning people from matches only punishes the true fans not the idiots who go to cause ****.
1966+2006;2435637 said:After the Heysel Disaster England were banned for 5 years. Though Liverpool were banned for 6 years.
snoppf1 said:In Italy and all over the world, the hooligans/ultras are WOVEN INTO THE CLUB ITSELF, THEY ARE PART OR THE CLUBS STRUCTURE.
Some ultras have the power to have a seat or a representative in the clubs BOARD OF DIRECTORS. Infact most are allowed to maintain the clubs stadium facilities and give stadium tours.
snoppf1;2436301 said:Ok so everyone understands
The hooligans in England in the 80's were different to the hooligans over the world,
In England the hooligans were just nutters who supported their team, went to every match etc.. caused fights and that was it
In Italy and all over the world, the hooligans/ultras are WOVEN INTO THE CLUB ITSELF, THEY ARE PART OR THE CLUBS STRUCTURE.
Some ultras have the power to have a seat or a representative in the clubs BOARD OF DIRECTORS. Infact most are allowed to maintain the clubs stadium facilities and give stadium tours.
This is why its so hard to kick these guys out. in England, they simply banned the nutters from going to matches, put a zero tolerance on violence in football and that was that.
If you did this in say, italy the whole club would have to re structure.
still, the punishments given are too light imo.
RobbieD_PL;2436347 said:Are Italian Ultras predetermining dates for riots? It's as if you have simultaneous chaos all over the country.
snoppf1;2436687 said:no, actually lol, this is what the new age of english hooligans do, they have fights away from grounds, there all organised these days.