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USA still has a chance to defend CONCACAF Championship

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Run DMB

MVP
From ussoccer.com:

Despite losing a thrilling semifinal match to Brazil on Wednesday evening in Miami, the United States is still alive in a bid to secure CONCACAF's lone position at the 2005 FIFA Confederations Cup. The USA's hopes hinge on a victory by Brazil against Mexico in Sunday's championship game at Estadio Azteca in Mexico City. Should Brazil win, and should the United States defeat Costa Rica in the third-place contest on Saturday in Miami, a single playoff game between the U.S. and Mexico will be played to determine the CONCACAF champion. (Costa Rica is no longer alive in this scenario, having lost to Mexico in the semifinals). According to the CONCACAF tournament rules: The CONCACAF Champion will be the team with the highest final ranking. The singular exception to this is when the two highest ranked CONCACAF teams finished second and third in the final standings and the second place team has not played the third-place finisher in the semifinals; in that case there will be a playoff. The playoff match(es) will be played at a date following the conclusion of the Gold Cup at a venue(s), date(s) and time(s) to be jointly agreed by both teams and CONCACAF.
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http://www.ussoccer.com/news/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=39996&itype=113&iCategoryID=0
 
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SB9Dragon

Fan Favourite
Hopefully Brazil beat Mexico (Gonna watch on Univision) and hopefully US beat Costa Rica... because IMO the match between the US and Mexico would be a thriller to decide North America's champion:rockman:
 
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Lean

Fan Favourite
What you mean by so much troubles? Defeating the holders for the tournament?:crazyboy: Really, a little combination of results isnt that much trouble, US will probably beat Costa Rica, and Mexico, even if they win, will struggle to do so... Then its just a playoff game. I dont see any trouble in this...:rolleyes:
 
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KingPaulV

Starting XI
I read this just now, kind of crazy excuse to have the match with the most draw anyway.......but oh well, I hope then Brazil bring on the pain to Mexico so we can have one more football match, I'm positive the US is gona beat Costa Rica so that should be a given
 
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Allen

Reserve Team
i would like to see USA vs. Mexico. By the way when was the last time Mexico defeated USA, i'm guessing Confederation Cup '99?
 
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Run DMB

MVP
The interesting thing is that if this scenario happens... they could do it as a single match or two home-and-away matches. I'd prefer a single match, but in that case they would have to stage it at a neutral venue (Costa Rica, Jamaica, etc.). Maybe they would reach a consensus to play it in the USA considering Mexico always gets more support here than the US does anyway. :crazyboy:

But that's all still hypothetical... we still have to see how the two upcoming games will go.

GO BRAZIL :clapwap:


... I guess (:/) :)
 
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tottiiii

Starting XI
i just wanna see Kaka and Robinho some more.....i hope Brazil wins just so i can see another game after the final lol
 
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ColdHellYeah

Reserve Team
Man this is gonna be a tough match (Mexico vs. Brazil) considering we barely beat them 1-0 in the 1st round and now Rafa Marquez is injured so he won't be playing :( but I still think we're up for it and are going to come out the champs:rockman:
 
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#1 Stunna

The Alpha Mexican
Originally posted by Allen
By the way when was the last time Mexico defeated USA, i'm guessing Confederation Cup '99?
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World Cup qualifying in Mexico City.

And this rule is crap, if Mexico loses the final that would make them be ranked 2nd place in the tournament, thus being the highest ranked CONCACAF team. And this should be enough to be in the Confed Cup.
 
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tottiiii

Starting XI
yea i think thats a pretty stupid rule myself....only way to justify it (somewhat) is that Both teams would have beaten Costa Rica so they want to see who is better between the two teams that beat CR....but its pretty stupid...
 
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Shiryu

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Stupid rule, it's all show and publicity, and of course if there is such a game, it is definitly going to be here in the U.S., otherwise how are they going to get the money. It's going to be horrible, with the crappy referees the U.S. has.
And by the way, didn't the U.S. just flunked the past Confederations cup?
 
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Run DMB

MVP
Originally posted by KLINSMANN
What? I don't get that rule explained above.
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Well here's the reasoning behind the rule:

Let's assume Brazil beats Mexico.

That means Brazil is better than both USA and Mexico.

USA and Mexico both beat Costa Rica.

That means both teams are better then Costa Rica.

Meaning they're the top two teams in CONCACAF.

You can not determine a champion of a confederation without having the top two teams play against eachother.

Therefore Mexico and USA face eachother to determine who is the best in CONCACAF.

Again all this is if Mexico lose to Brazil. So we'll just have to wait and see.
 
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#1 Stunna

The Alpha Mexican
Originally posted by Run DMB
Well here's the reasoning behind the rule:

Let's assume Brazil beats Mexico.

That means Brazil is better than both USA and Mexico.

USA and Mexico both beat Costa Rica.

That means both teams are better then Costa Rica.

Meaning they're the top two teams in CONCACAF.

You can not determine a champion of a confederation without having the top two teams play against eachother.

Therefore Mexico and USA face eachother to determine who is the best in CONCACAF.

Again all this is if Mexico lose to Brazil. So we'll just have to wait and see.
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how bout this:

Mexico beat brazil, USA didnt

Mexico is in the final, USA isnt

thus...

Mexico has had a better Gold Cup than the US, which means they are the team that should represent CONCACAF.
 
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ColdHellYeah

Reserve Team
Originally posted by #1 Stunna
how bout this:

Mexico beat brazil, USA didnt

Mexico is in the final, USA isnt

thus...

Mexico has had a better Gold Cup than the US, which means they are the team that should represent CONCACAF.
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Yes!! that makes the most sense of it all too bad it can't be that way.... but we don't have tah worry bout a thing:crazyboy:
 
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