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US mens team

Yossarian

Fan Favourite
Friday June 17, 2005


Boston's Pop Warner "urban suburban" American football league collapsed earlier this month. Parents of the suburban 7-14-year-olds said that the urban kids played too rough. And urban playing fields were "unsafe". And that the urban kids played "intimidating" rap music.
You'll have worked out that "suburban" and "urban" are euphemisms and that this is a row about race and class. League director Al Perillo told the Boston Globe that white middle-class parents have been scared off by TV news reports of drive-by shootings. But they're also sick "getting beat 30-to-nothing every time they go to Boston".


It's easy for an Englishman to write about racism in American sports. It's easy to forget that you come from the country that gave the sporting world the banana barrage, the monkey noise, the "paki" chant and Ron Atkinson. And from a continent which - taken as a whole - seems to be stuck in 1938.
That said, the segregation of US cities still shocks. And nowhere is this divide more obvious than in US soccer. No one is keeping statistics on just how effectively working class African-Americans have been excluded from America's grass roots soccer explosion. But everyone is agreed that US soccer is - to use Greg Dyke's phrase - hideously white.

In Raleigh, North Carolina African-American kids reacted with disbelief when a teacher told them about her brother-in-law - black US defender Eddie Pope. They were reportedly "stunned" when Pope sent them an autographed poster.

When H. Wells Wulsin moved from a small town in Ohio to teach in inner-city Washington, he enthusiastically set about starting a soccer program. "Even after weeks of posters, PA announcements and word-of-mouth advertising, I still had barely enough players to fill the field. It was the first soccer team at the school in over 25 years, and the lack of interest shattered my world paradigm. Our athletic director had warned me: 'kids don't play soccer in the ghetto. Just football, basketball, track.'"

But others have succeeded. Steve Bandura runs the Anderson Monarchs youth soccer team in inner-city Philadelphia. He shows the kids footage of Pelé and other black players (and, for some reason, David Speedie) "making the point that most of the world's footballers look like them". And every winter he gives his young players the option to switch to basketball until the new soccer season starts. And every year - without fail - the kids choose indoor soccer instead.

Every other team in the Monarchs' league is predominantly white. And most years the Monarchs win everything in sight. There is only one other non-school African-American team in Philadelphia - a city that is 40% black. "The reason is," says Steve, "that there just aren't soccer programmes being run in African-American neighbourhoods. If there were then what we do here would be repeated many times."

One organisation out to do just that is Soccer In The Streets - which claims to reach as many as 7,000 inner-city kids a year. SITS literature emphasises an anti-drug/anti-gang message - but dig a little deeper and you uncover a gushing well of gung-ho pro-soccer evangelism. As British-born SITS chairman Phil Hill told the Atlanta Journal Constitution: "I want the sport to succeed in this country. We saw the US come eighth in the world with a middle-class team. Just think what's going to happen when the inner-city kids are playing!"

There are four African-American players in the current US men's squad but at the grassroots - despite the efforts of organisations like SITS and individuals like Bandura - US soccer remains overwhelmingly suburban, middle-class and white. Everybody seems to agree that monoculturalism is holding the game back, but nobody seems sure how to change the situation. And perhaps not everybody wants to. And there's the rub. Most African-American kids grow up assuming that soccer is a white sport. And there is the suspicion (although no one is actually saying it) that an awful lot of white middle-class parents and officials would really like to keep it that way.

While attending an awards ceremony, Bandura, coach of the all African-American Anderson Monarchs youth soccer team, overheard a local official muttering: "If they think they're going to do what they did to basketball, they're crazy."

In his book Taboo, Jon Entine points that 65% of NFL and 80% of NBA players are African-American. Norman Mailer spoofed the fear these statistics provoke in an article for the New York Review of Books: "We white men were now left with half of tennis (at least its male half), and might also point to ice hockey, skiing, soccer, golf (with the notable exception of the Tiger), as well as lacrosse, track, swimming, and the World Wrestling Federation-remnants of a once great and glorious white athletic centrality." Mailer might have added to his list "extreme sports" and Nascar - both as dumb as toast and both white (or, to put it another way, both free of blacks). And both increasingly popular with white Americans.

Meanwhile, soccer has become - in the words of Tom Simpson, president of the A-League's San Francisco Bay Seals - the "dream alternate sport for the white suburbs". A safe place where the grandchildren of the "white flight" generation can play in monocultural safety. And who'd want to change that?

In the 19th century America's white suburban cricketers strove mightily to avoid any contact with Negroes, Germans and (shudder) the Irish. As a result the sport all but died and baseball inherited the earth.

Amazingly, in the first decade of the 21st century, US soccer might be making the exact same mistake.



Your thoughts??
 

Voltaic Borusse

Fan Favourite
Our strongest projected lineup (provided players stay healthy/injury-free) for 2006.

----------------- Keller -------------------
---------- Onyewu ---- Gibbs -------------
-- Cherundolo ----------------- Lewis -----
---------- Reyna ---- Mastroeni -----------
-- Donovan ------------------ Beasley ----
--------------------- Johnson ------------
----------- McBride ----------------------

Is it too defensive? Should we gamble a bit?
 

pede54

Team Captain
Yoss....very informative mate.Now thats the kind of stuff i dont see enough of. (Y)

You guys should worry less about what people say about the US team.Nomatter who you are,someone somewhere will always diss you.Man i've even dissed Brazil in the past(and i still do a little hehehehe).Your passion for the game is obvious and your knowledge of the game is pretty high too. You fellas are on the same level as every football (not soccer) fan in the world,so take any negativity as simply a means to make you feel pissed.
I for one have watched the progress of US football(not soccer) since the English players came there in the 70's.Rodney Marsh,Bestie etc.Its been a long hard slog to get the US game accepted in America let alone the rest of the world.So i am pleased to see the NT do well.For one thing it raises the profile of the game in the US,which is important.The more kids across America who can identify with the game the better.I think it's true though that the game in the US is predominately white and middle class,but over time ,with persistance and encouragement,the mix of players should(i hope)improve.I'm not just talking colour here either.Great footballers,like most great sports people throughout history have been from working class backgrounds.In England apart from joining a band,(if you got the talent that is),football,or maybe just sport, was the only way to climb out of the life that got dealt to you.I'm talking about the hunger to succeed,the knowledge that you either make a go of the football or you remain under the thumb for the rest of your days.Here,there was nothing for me to fall back on.My parents were poor,i left school(through the need for an income)at 16 to go out to work.No chance of college or University,so no degree to fall back on if i failed.I had no uncles who could put me to work in the family business either.All i had was me.You need that fire in the belly to suceed at anything.
Your football program in the US needs working class kids.Hard,rough and hungry working class kids.When that happens and they dominate the mens US team,(although i gotta admit ,those guys are doing pretty well up to now,but it could be better), you will not only progress further but in the process actually scare the crap out of most teams that you are gonna meet.Dont think other National Team coaches and players around the world dont respect US football,they do,and so they should.People will put you down too but other factors come into play here that have nothing to do with football.I prefer to just think about the football and leave the politics etc well out of it.
Anyway i'm going on a bit as usual.Just want you to know that there are more non US people interested than you can imagine.Anything that promotes football(not soccer),over all other sports has my total support anyhow.I like to see the US team do well.......not against us of course,so anyway ...thats it.............. (Y)
 

$teauA

Superstar
Friendly Schedule
1/22/06 - USA vs. Canada - Torero Stadium - San Diego, CA - (to be announced)
1/29/06 - USA vs. Norway - Home Depot Center - Carson, CA - ESPN2
2/10/06 - USA vs. Japan - SBC Park - San Francisco, CA - ESPN2
3/22/06 - Germany vs. USA - Westfalenstadion - Dortmund, Germany - ESPN

Some very good tests for us in those four games. I'm glad that we will have the opportunity to play one of those games in the host nation and against the host nation in one of the loudest stadiums in the world; playing in front of 70,000 screaming fans will be good for our players in preparation for the WC.

I'm predicting that FSC will televise the Canada friendly.

I'm upset that all the friendlys will be played in California, what's that about? Anyways there's two more dates that Bruce has to fill up so we'll see maybe he'll choose to play one of the games closer to NC so I can go see it :(.

GO USA
 

Vagegast

Banned for Life [He likes P. Diddy]
Voltaic Borusse said:
At the Westfalen, sweet. I might not be able to watch that game, though.
You have something set up for March 22nd?

Anyway, the other two games should be played on the East Coast.
 
Voltaic Borusse said:
Our strongest projected lineup (provided players stay healthy/injury-free) for 2006.

----------------- Keller -------------------
---------- Onyewu ---- Gibbs -------------
-- Cherundolo ----------------- Lewis -----
---------- Reyna ---- Mastroeni -----------
-- Donovan ------------------ Beasley ----
--------------------- Johnson ------------
----------- McBride ----------------------

Is it too defensive? Should we gamble a bit?
Looks like that's pretty much our line-up for the World Cup, unless:

a) John O'Brien somehow gets healthy
b) one or more of those guys is injured/unfit in time for the tournament

Here's a line-up I'd like to see Bruce try:

------------------------Keller---------------------

-----------Gooch-------Gibbs--------Los----------
---Dolo-----------------------------------Lewis---

------------------------Reyna---------------------
---------Lando----------------------Beas----------

------------------GAM--------McBride--------------

It's actually an attack-minded formation, despite being a 5-3-2. Two midfielders comitted to offense (Beas and Calrissian), as well as Dolo and Lewis making runs up the flanks and crossing the ball in.
 
$teauA said:
Friendly Schedule
1/22/06 - USA vs. Canada - Torero Stadium - San Diego, CA - (to be announced)
1/29/06 - USA vs. Norway - Home Depot Center - Carson, CA - ESPN2
2/10/06 - USA vs. Japan - SBC Park - San Francisco, CA - ESPN2
I like the increasing difficulty of those three games. It will be a very good way to see at what level the MLS guys are - who has a shot of making the squad and who doesn't. The players who perform well against all three teams will probably be on the roster for the two friendlies in Europe.
 

Iggy

Youth Team
well, maybe we'll see that on world cup, since we never played against each other...

and, if your quarterback gets some kind of injury, we could maybe score a touchdown or two
 

$teauA

Superstar
Iggy said:
well, maybe we'll see that on world cup, since we never played against each other...

and, if your quarterback gets some kind of injury, we could maybe score a touchdown or two

get the hell out of here
 

WilliamFAlmeida

Starting XI
LOL!
thats funny, but why come in here to hate? no point in that.....

I always route against the US but, Im no hater!! Respect the red...the white...*turns around* and the blue
 

$teauA

Superstar
WilliamFAlmeida said:
LOL!
thats funny, but why come in here to hate? no point in that.....

I always route against the US but, Im no hater!! Respect the red...the white...*turns around* and the blue

I can't wait for all the "US upsets Brazil in round of 16 in Germany!" (H)!!




if that would happen I think I would s*it myself :(
 

10Ruud

Starting XI
They play 3 friendlies in May...24/27/28...so I would think they would be together within the next 30 days.
 
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Dan the monkey

Guest
Probably been posted many many times in this thread, but as i don't really wanna read through the whole lot, ill ask anyway...

Anyone seen the Budweisers piss-take of USA's "Soccer" Team?(H)

"So...who doesn't understand the offside rule?"

*Whole team puts hands up*
 


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