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UEFA Champions League Final: FC Barcelona Vs Manchester United

Arnau;2673305 said:
muniesa, what a legend he is going to be, sounds like messi and iniesta.

Arnau I'm going to quote you on that for years.Nevertheless I believe he is something special,you better hope Arsenal doesn't get him.
 

Dytza

Banned - Playing with Fire
He will be our best player in history, cause he also have something like Ezquerro hair style :D
 

adedawson

Senior Squad
Form:

Barcelona last 12 games in all competitions:
WWDWWDDWDWDL
Barcelona Champions League this season:
Group Stage: WWWDWL KO Round 1: DW Quarter Final: WD Semi Final: DW

Manchester United last 12 Games in all competitions:

DWWD(P)WWWWWWWD
Manchester United Champions League this season:
Group Stage: DWWDDD KO Round 1: DW Quarter Final: DW Semi Final: WW​
 

Arnau

NGR LVR
manchester united win the 3 finals they play, the last 2 with insane luck, time to lose. football love football and should be fair u_u
 

Arnau

NGR LVR
adedawson;2673664 said:
If you believe in 'luck'. Do you believe in the tooth fairy? :browsmiley:

nah, luck doesn't exist, are the parents.


EDIT: lol crisitano is a chicken only score at home.
 

adedawson

Senior Squad
bybuti;2673676 said:


*Source.


btw adedawson, we believe in our players' abilities. :)

and he still hasn't scored vs one English team. :browsmiley:

although I admit there impressive results for Europe. 10 more goals... I hope he doesn't suddenly find form against a English team 2morrow else were in trouble :innocent_smile_1:and you better hope ron doesn't find form in Europe.

There again, we got more strikers this season... was he expected to be able to carry on scoring as many from the wing? That's in general not just Europe.

We have also only scored 18 goals in the champions league this season. Bayern, chelsea, liverpool, Arsenel, barca all scoring a lot more... we are in the final though and only conceded 6 goals. Not to mention were still winning without ron scoring on all cylinders. The 'teams' doing very well.

we believe in our teams abilities. :)
 

adedawson

Senior Squad

Man United v FC Barcelona: The Battle of the Blogs


As part of our build up to the Champions League showdown in Rome on Wednesday evening, I thought it would be interesting if we brought together two of the best Manchester United and Barcelona blogs around and pit them head to head to get their unique perspectives on the final.

In this, the first of a two part Champions League debate, The Republik of Mancunia locks horns with FCB News to debate their respective team`s strengths, weaknesses - and managers.

At first glance, this is a fairly evenly matched contest between the respective title winners of their domestic leagues – and for once, the final that many predicted and wanted to see: between the two strongest sides on the continent. So, starting with FCB News, in the eyes of the fans, how do the La Liga Champions match up to their Premier league counterparts?

FCB NEWS:
Barça are the better team. Last year`s semi final is a good indicator of how the two teams will play with United pinned back for most of the game looking to hit Barça on the counter attack. However, this season Barça are a much better team while United are more or less at the same level. I believe Barça have more potential match winners, while United will base all their hopes on Cristiano Ronaldo, Barça have five players capable of winning us the game. Xavi and Iniesta have both grown as players since guiding Spain to victory in Euro 2008, and are more capable of creating the chances we failed to make last season.

The 96 goals scored this season by our attacking trio of Messi, Eto`o and Thierry Henry speaks for itself. Thierry Henry has improved immensely this season, his poor form last year saw him dropped to the bench for both semi final games.


Republik of Mancunia: Messi, Eto`o and Henry, amongst others, would be enough to give any defender cold sweats, but Vidic and Rio can be confident they will keep them out. For all the possession Barça had against United last season, Van der Sar didn`t have a save to make.

Barcelona`s strength is clearly their attack which suits United fairly well given the great defence we have. Whilst the right back position is still fairly shaky, the pairing of Vidic and Ferdinand is the best in Europe. This season, Edwin Van der Sar broke the European record for the longest time without conceding a goal, which is certainly an achievement for the keeper, but a record that would not have been possible without his centre backs.


FCB News: I will concede that Vidic and Rio are probably the best central defensive pairing around at the moment but they will have their work cut out to stop Barça this year. As I said, Barça have three lethal strikers to contain who will be served by Xavi and Iniesta: two of the best passers in the game, while the Barça defence will only have to worry about Ronaldo.


I believe United`s goal scoring chances will be limited. People always say that Barça have problems defensively but teams generally have very few scoring opportunities against us. In La Liga we have the best defensive record. I imagine if Rooney plays on the left he will play most of the game tracking back to support Evra against Messi while Park will be similarly occupied by Iniesta and Henry on the other flank. Perhaps the main threat to Barça will be if Giggs gets a chance to look for a through ball to Ronaldo, but I repeat United will not get near our penalty area very often.


Chelsea only created chances when Barça were a goal down and chasing the game, and it is interesting to note that in the two semi final ties against United and Chelsea we only conceded two goals which came from the long range efforts of Scholes and Essien. With a bit of luck on Wednesday any long range shots from United will fly well over the crossbar.


RoM: According to UEFA, Manchester United have had 87 shots on target in the competition this year, an average of 7.25 every match. Barcelona have had 83 shots on target, an average of 6.92 every match. United also have the best defensive record in the competition this season, conceding on average just 0.5 goals per game played. Barça have the 9th best record in the competition, conceding an average of 1.08 goals per game. So, we`ve had more shots on goal than Barcelona and we`ve conceded fewer goals than Barcelona, so I`m not entirely sure where the logic is that our chances will be limited…?


Guillem: I`m surprised neither of you have made more of Barcelona`s defensive selection problems ahead of this final and, in my opinion, their problems at the back could be decisive. It is certainly going to test Guardiola`s managerial capabilities to the full: speaking of which…it`s the relatively inexperienced new kid on the block going up against the old master. How do the two coaches match up?


FCB NEWS: Pep Guardiola is the better coach :lol: . Yes, I know a lot of United fans will laugh at this one. Sir Alex Ferguson may have the experience but it took him more than ten years as United`s coach before he won the Champions League....


RoM: ... I might point out that United had the "three foreigners" rule to battle against when Sir Alex first created a team good enough to win the Champions League. United had to pick three players from Peter Schmeichel, Roy Keane, Dennis Irwin, Eric Cantona and Andrei Kanchelskis....


FCB NEWS: United fans were calling for Ferguson`s head during his first seasons in charge and he didn`t win the Champions League until after the three foreigners rule had been changed! Guardiola has already become a legend at Barcelona in his first season. As a player he was fortunate enough to play under such maestros as Johan Cruyff, Bobby Robson, Louis Van Gaal and Fabio Capello: learning from all of them and his attention to detail is second to none. Barça also wisely sent Gerard Piqué to spy on United for four years so we know exactly what to expect!


ROM: Guardiola inherited the second best side in Spain when he got the Barça job. United were in the relegation zone when Ferguson came to United. Messi, Eto`o, Henry, Abidal, Toure, Gudjohnsen, Hleb and Keita were all born outside of Spain but fortunately Pep doesn`t have to pick just three of those players to face United. To argue Guardiola is a better coach than Sir Alex Ferguson is hard to respond to. When Guardiola has won fourteen league titles, six European titles, and thirteen domestic cups, then you can start comparing the two. For the time being, the two are leagues apart. Sir Alex Ferguson doesn`t need to learn from maestros, he is the maestro!



Guillem: Something that both of these managers have excelled at is fostering a tremendous team spirit and keeping their players hungry. How much will that be a factor?


FCB NEWS: Barça will have more hunger and team spirit. The English teams always believe that one of their advantages over foreign teams is their greater team spirit and work rate. Chelsea believed they would outdo Barça in this respect, yet it was Barça who fought back with ten men to clinch the tie. The team spirit at Camp Nou this season is second to none. Heads may have dropped in the past when going behind, but this season we have come from behind on several occasions.

The fact that we have so many home grown players obviously helps in this respect and on Wednesday we will probably start with seven players who started their careers in the youth ranks of the club. Of the other four players, Toure, Keita and Eto`o are all battlers, and even Thierry Henry has proved this season that he will run his socks off for the team, and nobody wants a winner`s medal more than him.


RoM: Chelsea may have believed that team spirit was enough to get past Barcelona but they didn`t have enough quality to match that. They are 7 points behind us in the league this season so clearly Barcelona shouldn`t expect the same standard from us. We have team spirit and quality, as the Champions of the strongest league in Europe. United have just equalled Liverpool`s league title records and now have the opportunity to go within one European Cup of their total, which makes us as hungry as ever. Johan Cruyff might think we`ve got a team full of foreigners, but he hasn`t checked out our squad, obviously. Last season we had five homegrown players in our team for the final (with a further four Englishman) and this season we have Jonny Evans added to the mix.


 

adedawson

Senior Squad
thought it was a good read to see both sides opinions

Arnau;2673699 said:
messi also play in the wing, the right one.

all of these numbers are useless in the final.

and your missing the point of whether united should expect him to keep on banging in as many goals on the wing, when we have rooney, berb and tevez. 442, 451, 433 usually players always in front of him that are goal scorers. Was different the season before when we had a few issue's up front. Not that we still haven't got those issue's in lacking a point man but there's still 3 recognised strikers ahead of ron...

In spite what's been said I actually think both Ronaldo and Messi will end up doing bugger all. There both going to be canceled out by the other team. The only way I see ronaldo scoring is by some wonder free kick. Other wise he's just going to have 3 defenders on him and getting stressed out like a girl as he does, waving and flapping his arms around. :D And he best not miss no peno this year.
 

Dytza

Banned - Playing with Fire
statistics are useless. if they were not, we would have been champions from the changing rooms. Man Utd. won all their 3 trophies wearing red shirts, and now they play in white. :D
 

newbie original

We apologize for keeping the yellow too long
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Dytza;2673814 said:
....Man Utd. won all their 3 trophies wearing red shirts, and now they play in white. :D

By now, you mean for the Champions League final.

Well, AC ****ing Milan wore their silly white shirts in the 2007 Champions League Final and fluked their way to victory. I expect ManU do do the same. As usual, United fluke the easiest route to the final....last year they got an injured Barca and weaklings Roma. This year, they got a soft Arsenal and a weak Porto. Both times, they avoided a true test until a one game playoff in the final(Chelsea last year and Barca this year). The luck of the draw is very much in their favor and I can fully see them fluking another victory.
 

Arnau

NGR LVR
this barça its over everything, i dont know how but we are going to get this ******* champions league because its our 6 final, we are the best, our football its beautiful and we deserve the ******* triplet. already unfair basilea and sevilla finals, time to enjoy.

amen.
the waiting its killing me.

we've got andrés iniesta luján fasjfkhajkahsjklafag4ea
 

thelordspawn

Starting XI
Arnau;2673655 said:
manchester united win the 3 finals they play, the last 2 with insane luck, time to lose. football love football and should be fair u_u

urtalking about luck? Barca shouldnt even b in the fiinal they have ref and lack of ability to finish for Barcanot losing 7-0 so dont dare mention ¨luck¨

last season Chel**** were extremely lucky to tie it with that lucky goal. In 99 yes timing was lucky but united deserved it.

so be thankful the ref which Barca probably paid plus a lucky last minute goal (which if ref did his job wouldnt of meant ****) put you in final which i wouldnt be surprised if barca paid that ref also.
 


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