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TheBlueBalla said:Umm, alright. Im not here to get into some personal war, so ill try and stick to the points you made. Firstly, i see a huge difference between getting eliminated in the first round, and being knocked out by an aggregate of 1-0 in the semifinal. Just to make this clear, the difference is two rounds.
Im glad that it doesnt matter that we won the premiership, eventhough thats apparrently not as impressive as the squandered lead you now hold over madrid. Good luck with that, by the way (im actually being sincere[no seriously])
And let me get this straight: Reason one Chelsea doesnt "work" in the CL is because of the man who won it two years ago? That doesnt really make sense, but maybe your argument about his "stupid" tactics holds some merit. But first you criticize counter attacking on the wings and in the center (so, i guess, over the whole pitch?) but the counter attack, as you'll recall, caused Barca to collapse like a neutron star for 20 minutes in leg two, and heading? Well, that finished the job, so i fail to see the problem with that strategy. But wingplay is important to chelsea, no dobut: its just that usually, with Robben and Duff, its actually successful.
And about comparing clubs, well, before 2003, that wouldve been like stacking Barca up against Osasuna. But things are a bit different now. It was a measure of how much respect chelsea fans had for your team (though apparrently your team didnt reciprocate that) that beating Barca was a huge acomplisment, almost as joyous as winning a title in itself. That said, i felt that happy, and it goes to show, as i have the utmost respect for FC Barcelona.
Ill read up on your nickname, but be advised: it was just a joke, not meant to be insultory of you, or something. Im not really sure what you mean by this,
but it sounds really cryptic. Anyway, glad we got that settled
Im glad we could have a civil discussion. Sorry if i got snappy or took your comments out of context before, but i was a bit touchy after the loss, and may have taken things personal. You seem like a good guy, and i was glad for the discussionAragorn said:Well, agree with the first part...has not sense to enter in a "personal battle" about this, only discussing our viewpoints, anyway i think that we have them very different.
Yes, there´s a lot of diference between falls in the quarters and in the semifinal....the money. That´s the only diference. But for this reason i dont find sense in to make remarkable this point, i mean, Chelsea, almost today, does not need money. Prestige?? Well...in only one step of diference between the chelsea-barça and the liverpool-chelsea macth.
The man that won the UCL 2 years ago....and be honest with me, please, is an egocentric man that after won with Oporto he thinks that can win all with any team....contradictory things, cause, in my opinion, i find more strong Chelsea than Oporto, then...why chelsea falls?? I didnt meant about the Whole field, i meant about the play more repetitive that have Chelsea, ball on the wingers, counter attack, center to the area...and.....sometimes goal, sometimes not, is u use too much in excese something u know the results.....thats the reason that Chelsea falls...the good Liverpool defence (the 3 goals againts Barça, i found that it was really stupid from our defenders...really...lack of concentration)
Finally about compare clubs, i preferd dont do it. Chelsea is a young and strong club now, nothing to see with a classic club like Barça, they are too much diference in that sense. And about the respect, i never fault to the respect to any fan of chelsea, all opossite, for to hold a trainer as Mourinho, pfffff....Chelsea fans have really balls.....in this sense. Furthermore i was impresed with the fans actitude here in Barcelona, u know, the "fame" of holygans...i dont know.
Nevermind about the nick...hehe
Cryptic?? Well...the sentence means that with wet guns u cannot shot well....kinda metaphoric.....
Take care
neovico
The Mind
Yes, i believe he was. All the more reason to believe the guy has got class yet to tell. Christ, if he works on that first touch and the control, with his size, he could be brilliantPayaah said:Wasnt Drogba top scorer in UEFA last year?
TheBlueBalla said:Im glad the fans that came to Catalonia were not too out of hand: i believe the club recently cleaned up this aspect of its more vile supporters, so thats good for everyone involved, as people like that dont want football: they want racist jokes and chants, beer and violence
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The police arrested 10 hooligans. Some of them robbed a taxi driver, with violence. Apart from that, nothing.panxoman said:They behaved very well and didn't cause any problem at all.
Aragorn said:Well, agree with the first part...has not sense to enter in a "personal battle" about this, only discussing our viewpoints, anyway i think that we have them very different.
Yes, there´s a lot of diference between falls in the quarters and in the semifinal....the money. That´s the only diference. But for this reason i dont find sense in to make remarkable this point, i mean, Chelsea, almost today, does not need money. Prestige?? Well...in only one step of diference between the chelsea-barça and the liverpool-chelsea macth.
The man that won the UCL 2 years ago....and be honest with me, please, is an egocentric man that after won with Oporto he thinks that can win all with any team....contradictory things, cause, in my opinion, i find more strong Chelsea than Oporto, then...why chelsea falls?? I didnt meant about the Whole field, i meant about the play more repetitive that have Chelsea, ball on the wingers, counter attack, center to the area...and.....sometimes goal, sometimes not, is u use too much in excese something u know the results.....thats the reason that Chelsea falls...the good Liverpool defence (the 3 goals againts Barça, i found that it was really stupid from our defenders...really...lack of concentration)
Finally about compare clubs, i preferd dont do it. Chelsea is a young and strong club now, nothing to see with a classic club like Barça, they are too much diference in that sense. And about the respect, i never fault to the respect to any fan of chelsea, all opossite, for to hold a trainer as Mourinho, pfffff....Chelsea fans have really balls.....in this sense. Furthermore i was impresed with the fans actitude here in Barcelona, u know, the "fame" of holygans...i dont know.
Nevermind about the nick...hehe
Cryptic?? Well...the sentence means that with wet guns u cannot shot well....kinda metaphoric.....
Take care
neovico
The Mind
Aragorn said:Bye, Bye Chelsea...hoooo
Mourinho.....and now what?? Your tactics did not work..shout up egocentric. You will be always remember as the "translator"
Thanks Luis for the goal (i know that ur barça heart beats strong)
Barça will win the spanish league sure...but now results that Pede says that is more important the english premier league than the uefa champions league???? hooo....sure....after lost this macth.....
Liverpool keep the good work, hope u win the cup in istambul!!!!
Take care
neovico
The Mind
INFESTA said:Don't you love when someone, in the same post, writes that Mourinho 'is an egocentric man that after won with Oporto' and then calls himself 'The Mind'?
And why the hell would anyone sign his name on the bottom followed with such akward tag?
Oh Great 'The Mind', and what it that Oporto you're talking about? I'm a supporter of the club that won the CL last year, even watched most games on the stad, and don't recall another team called Oporto beating my FC Porto... Beats me, but well, you're The Mind, right?
lil_kewell said:cant believe it, i spose congrats liverpool, scrappy goal but yer a team that keeps chelsea of the score sheet in 2 games deserves it i spose, trying to think positive about our EPL win but its hard .
I'm afraid they were wrongSe7eN_4_U said:SkyTV said it wasn't a goal
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Mayor said:I'm afraid they were wrong
Al-Jazeera said the ball was in (they contacted NASA and they gave 'em satelite pictures of Earth over Chelsea that night and they zoomed it)
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PS. sorry about quality, I had to decrease it drastically to keep small file size
Se7eN said:SkyTV said it wasn't a goal
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