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Turkish Teams and the Problem

serhat09

Youth Team
Ok, i have had enough of the bullsh.it that the turkish teams have been producing lately.

Seriously, just because the NATIONAL team did 3rd place in the World Cup, doesn't mean the clubs in Turkey should think they are so damn great, we are still a building nation when it comes to the club football (turkish league).

Why am I posting this, because i want to get this monkey off my back and freaking tell everyone how i feel.

NUMBER #1....Damn Galatasaray
- Now here we have a team who put the Turkish League on the map. They get a new manager, Mircea Lucescu, who turned out to be an EXCELLENT replacement for Terim, and got Galatasaray into the Quarter-Final of the ECC, and just last year, he almost got a much weaker Galatasaray side to the quarters again, and just because Terim was free, they said thank you to Lucescu and let him go?! Why would you Fu.cking do that?? Why?? Terim is a fine manager, but why get rid of Lucescu after doing such a successful job. Now that Terim came back, he completely overhauls the team, gets rid of Perez, Victoria, gets Mohammed Sarr on loan, doesn't want to play Umit Karan, Sergen Leaves, I mean, he completely changes the team, WHY!! WHY are you changing a team that has been playing so well together? Now look, Terim is so damn aggressive, and so damn big headed because he thinks that he has one of the best team in europe, so he pretty much tries to play an attacking style in every match. It has been so predictable that every team has quickly adapted to the style, and can easily find Galatasaray's weakness. Why did Fenerbahce beat them 6-0? because Terim thought that he can play Attacking in Fenerbahce's home which is never the best idea, and thought he could win, Lorant saw this and played Counter-Attack, and succeeded. Why for any derby would you try to attack the home team, a strong one especially. You should be playing the team to draw, and then try to win the derby at home the next game, you'll come out with 4 points, rather than just 3, because it's not likely you'll beat Fenerbahce at home. The Management is poor, why would Canaydin give Terim almost 100% control of the team, anything Terim says, goes. No, you can't do that, especially if your a chairman. If you are a chairman of a football club, YOU have to take care of it, the manager is there only to get your club to where YOU want it too be, the manager should NOT be in charge of getting players, getting more money, getting a better reserve camps, no, the final say should be with the board, but because they gave Terim all power...hey beacause of that, they are paying Jorge Felipe a truck load of cash...for nothing...he's gone now.

#2 FENERBAHCE....for 45 years
Fenerbahce is my favorite team, i'm sure you can all see that. But for Fu.cking 45 years, the damn bloody team has done the same stupid management styles. This is what it is
- Buy players, never build players
- Buy old players whos' career is near an end
- Have the most ignorant chairmans

If Fenerbahce had a smart board for once in their lives, this is what probably would happen.

All old players who have no use whatsoever to the team like: ABDULLAH, STEVIC, RAPAIC, OGUN...Just get rid of them, they are NO value, they DO not help the team.

Get a good midfield that is relatively young (avg 26 years old): Keep ORTEGA..you need a good playmaker like him, keep CEYHUN, keep YUSUF, keep TUNCAY, keep JOHNSON, keep CEM....but invest in younger talent, and build them for a couple years...there is LOTS of young turkish talent for midfield out there, stop being impatient, you cannot build a successful football club under poor patience.

Keep your current Forwards....Keep SERHAT, Get rid of Washington...he is a slow useless player. If you wanted to get someone like Jardel, then go for Jardel, because there aren't many players like his talent that would come to turkey. Build your younger forwards, start playing them, its the only way.

Get rid of ignorant chairmans, like Aziz Yildirim, i respect his ambitious side, but it comes to a point where it is ridiculously ignorant. He claims Fenerbahce will be a world team by 2005, and by then we will have won the champions league...yeah, i love fenerbahce yildirim, but try getting our team in the champions league first before flopping your damn mouth.

If we had smart management, we would get a CONSISTANT manager, and most probably a turkish one, because foreign managers don't have the highest success rate in Turkey...i don't know why...it just is that way. If we had smart management, they would invest in youth players, preferably off the u-21 team and play them in the Senior team, its the only way to get the foundation going and get a strong skeleton.

Galatasary took 5 years to build that team properly, they built youngsters (emre, okan, umit davala etc), they brought in a playmaker (hagi), they bought in few veterans to lead the team (popescu, taffarel), and they played together for about 5 years and they had a strong foundation and had a very strong skeleton in their hands, and they won the UEFA Cup that way.

The only way the big Turkish Teams will get better is if they STOP being so damn ignorant, and so damn impatient, and it has the potential to be one of the best in the world.
 

Fotbalguy

Senior Squad
Replacing Lucescu startd Galatasaray's decline...... and I'm not sure that they'll make it back up to where they were.....
 

serhat09

Youth Team
ok what the hell

Ok what the hell Fener???

7-1 agaisnt Bursaspor....6-0 Against Galatasaray....and you play like cows against Panathinaikos.... :( :kader:
 

MuRcY[b]

Youth Team
Serhat every word u said was spot on , good stuff. now im not being aloof or nothing here but im surprised that came from a fener supporter bcoz most of the time all they do is talk crap ... atleast i know there are the sensible ones aswell now :)

Fener have always had a quality side but somehow it just dont work for them ... ur right they need to build youngsters ... Tuncay was a GREAT investment btw ...

F. Terim is a stubborn Carlos*ass ... & our president is treating him like a god ... HE IS NOT BIGGER THAN GALATASARAY SK so he shouldnt be treated like royalty .. all he wants is 11 players that run their asses off for 90 mins winning the ball ... what good is winning the ball if you have no one to utilize an attack? Felipe is a GREAT player & Terim wouldnt stop hounding him bcoz he wouldnt run ... WHO CARES if he didnt run! felipe setup atleast 3 chances everytime he came on .. now he is gone ... i hope he finds a good coach that knows his worth ...

Christian is a great player & is no-where near the form he showed at PSG .. He likes to dribble .. beat players & hez good in the air .. Terim doesnt use any of his abilities ... There is no wing play for crosses , they never give him service deep so he can turn n run .. ( he did against barcelona & nearly scored 2wice )

& its just really sad to see berkant sitting watching the games in the grandstand because he is a PHENOMENAL player ... at the age of 15 the guy won youth player of the year award in the Bundesliga for Bayern Munich .. he is pure class & Terim plays Fabio Pinto in his place ... dont get me wrong Pinto is a good player but no where near the quality of Berkant ...

If Lucescu had stayed things would be MUCH different from the way they are now ...

But we have come back from bad times before & will do it again ... The Galatasaray spirit will prevail! CiMbOm TiLL i Die!
 

Sukur54

Senior Squad
i also think replacing lucescu was a big mistake but we have to live with it and i dont know what the hell is wrong with fener why cant they play half as good in europe? do they have europeafobia?
 

Fener_Bahce

Reserve Team
I agree with serhat09

Forever Fenerbahce, but I do have to addmit I feel sorry for galatasaray in champs league, they beat lokomotiv in moscow (which is really hard) and than they lose to them at home...

Let's all hope bjk is sucessful in uefa cup, and maybe denizlispor can surprise us too...I can't beleive how sheitty rustu played against pana, but I'm not mad, even the best of us screw up.

Don't you guy's also think that the turkish league has become a lot more competitive?

Forever TURKIYE
Foever FENERBAHCE
Forever RUSTU
Forever SERHAT
Forever ORTEGA
 

MuRcY[b]

Youth Team
Yes the turkish league is great .. very competitive indeed & its only going to get better ;)

sukur54 dogru soyluyor kavgalari birakalim ..
 

Fener_Bahce

Reserve Team
Tabi

Kavgalar simdiden bitiyor...Evet Turk Super Lig is great now, the smaller teams have more money now, and almost all the games are really competitive...I am still really dissapointed with Fener and Gala in avrupa, what do you guy's think about next year for cim bom and fener in uefa cup/champs league?

Milli takimiz 1-1 bitirdi italya da...
 
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CANADIAN.10

Guest
tebrikler

Arkadaslar ben Galatasarayliyim ve taraftar olarak kavgasiz tartismak ne mutlu bize ve sizleri tebrik ederim.

Anyway, I knew it was going to turn out this way with gala this season with Terim at the begining of this season, but I was not happy with Lucescu for some reason but I do miss him alot, he was too defensive and thats the reason I did not like about him, but he did a damn awsome job. SOOOO I closed my eyes and went to watch Terim's Galatasaray and we all know what happened. Think about it we all know Terim, he is very offensive and Lucescu is exactly the opposite and 2 years the players played the defensive system with Luce and now it will take 2-3 years for gala to go back what they were few years ago. Remember 96 when Terim first came and he was called names and was critisized alot, it took him 2-3 years to establish a super power team. I still have hopes for Terim and waiting till he gets the system right. Gala will be back!!!!!

About Fener, yaaa yuyanlara kaybetik icim yandi. I think they are great in Turkiye and they are always been great but IMO they need some experience in the UEFA competitions. Hopefully they will get there.

About Besiktas.... GOOOOO BESIKTASSS, we are with you, ohh and Denizlispor too...
 

serhat09

Youth Team
Gurur Duyoruz BJK ve Denizli


 


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