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The Truth Behind it All

Nostradamus

Club Supporter
I saw in my previous post that people say I like to start arguments and then disappear and not contribute to the argument.

Well that is simply because no matter what I say I get the same response:
"You're ****"
"You suck"
"Get FCUKED"
etc, etc, etc.

It is the same response that I get when I express my opinion in the FIFA forum, so that means that you guys aren't any better than the FIFA fans. Which leads me to conclude:

"There are three types of people here:
- Die Hard FIFA fans (blinded by EA Sports)
- Die Hard PES fans (blinded by Konami)
- and neutral people that can criticise both games but have fun playing them"

and I am in the third group, although once I've gotten into PES I already forgot FIFA.

So, dont get me wrong, PES is a great game, when you play against a HUMAN opponent. Me & my brother or my friend can have endless fun playing it, it is very realistic,

but you cant play the game against the computer because it simply CHEATS!!!

Thats it.
 

PhiLLer

Fan Favourite
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I defenitely disagree with you on the cheating point. When i got first PES3 I started playing on 3* and progressed up to 5* level that I play all my matches at now (and win most matches too). I haven't realised any cheating from the AI. The AI obviously gets harder, the higher you set your level at, which is exactly what it's supposed to do.
I can't see how they cheat, because if I can beat the AI on 5* then I must be cheating too, that is basically what you're saying.
I don't see a valid point to your claim and above all you are the only I have heard this say on this forum, on centrespot and on other forums.
If you would have said the ref AI was lacking, that PES3 could do with a bit more organic animation, I agree with you but the point you make is hardly valid and I think it's just your frustration of not being able to beat the AI on anything harder than 3*.
 

joaomgcd

Youth Team
I also admit that the game has some anoying flaws, but you have to admit that you like having multiple pages threads, because if you didn't, you wouldn't come to a PES forum dissing out the game over and over again. If you did only once (and most importantly, listened to what people have to say, besides "you're crap"), people would've taken you seriously, but so many times... You KNOW you're going to get attention.;)
 

Vedran-10

Starting XI
1-PES has flaws.No doubt about it.

2-It's possible to play against the CPU.I've been playing on 5* since day one and I'm very good at it right now.Rarely lose.And the CPU does cheat ,but only with the referee when you're playing away.

3-Playing against a human opponent is harder than playing on 5*.
 

Gobby

Youth Team
If the cpu cheats so much, could you please provide some replays with clear examples of what you are reffering to as cheating?
Of course this will be a simple task for you considering the cpu cheat "SO MUCH"
And remember, no replays of bad ref calls, cos there isnt a person on these forums that wont agree the ref A.I is bad. But as any sane person will know, the refs also make the bad calls against the CPU team so it hardly constitutes "CHEAT".

replays plz, or vid capture .avi whatever you prefer.
 

mohawk

Senior Squad
If you critisisms had any ground you may get intelligent feedback...

Think of the scenario if you poke a dog with a stick the only thing you'll likely to get is an agressive response back. If you give it a disciplined command you may get something more positive.

Thats my 2 cents. :)
 

Ronkeuren

Club Supporter
People dont get me wrong but what is cheating ? i have play on 2 stars in the beginning and now on 3 but still can see any cheat and i have play PES1 on PS2 1 a 2 years ago.

PES3 is a good sim soccer game and i olso say playing with your m8tes its a lot more fun then with the CPU but i can see any cheat at all, lets see FIFA20004 on world class when the CPU shoot at the goaly it alomst a goal not 1 safe.

But whe can just say and this is the tru

FIFA 2004 SUPERB looks and mutcn more better detailed then pes3

PES3 no 1 sim soccer game is better then this!!

And the gameplay is the inportend section of a game.

i can play a 320x240 game when the game have a good gameplay.

Thats my upinion.

Sorry for the english i am a dutch guy
 

Han

Senior Squad
Re: The Truth Behind it All

Originally posted by Nostradamus
I saw in my previous post that people say I like to start arguments and then disappear and not contribute to the argument.

Well that is simply because no matter what I say I get the same response:
"You're ****"
"You suck"
"Get FCUKED"
etc, etc, etc.
You are right, people should not do that; there are other ways to tell you what we think :D

It is the same response that I get when I express my opinion in the FIFA forum, so that means that you guys aren't any better than the FIFA fans. Which leads me to conclude:

"There are three types of people here:
- Die Hard FIFA fans (blinded by EA Sports)
- Die Hard PES fans (blinded by Konami)
- and neutral people that can criticise both games but have fun playing them"
You must think more flexible; there are more groups; you are too narrow-minded ;)
For instance, I start a NEW group :)

this is the group:
- He-again-group (those who will ONLY reply in the future if you tell us sensitive things)

Got it? :D :hump:
 

pyny

Club Supporter
by the way,do u ppl think 5 stars is really much harder then 3 stars?ive been playing 3 stars,and i think i might be ready for 5 stars.
 

Vedran-10

Starting XI
Originally posted by pyny
by the way,do u ppl think 5 stars is really much harder then 3 stars?ive been playing 3 stars,and i think i might be ready for 5 stars.

5* is twice harder than 3*.

You have to be ready.

Believe it or not ,I have never played WE7 on a lower level than 5*.And I got used to it that now I'm as good as unbeatable on difficulties below 5*.I started on the hardest level and it's much easier now.Tho it took a lot of anger and retries before I got the ropes.Can you imagine trying to qualify to D1 in your first season in D2 on 5*?
That's something your joystick doesn't wanna go thru.
 

Frommelgoal

Youth Team
Originally posted by zka
5* is twice harder than 3*.
That's something your joystick doesn't wanna go thru.

In what area would it be harder?

I started out on 2* and quickly moved on to 3*. I noticed a dramatic difference in the performance of the CPU. I couldn't just sprint to goal anymore, but was forced to play an intelligent passing game.

In the beginning I tried a game or two on 5* just to see how it would be, but I didn't get trashed like I expected. As a matter of fact, I couldn't tell the difference with 3* at that time. Then again, I was a pes newb, so probably I just didn't realize it. So, how would you describe the difference between 3, 4 & 5*?
 

Shindig

Fan Favourite
Well, at 3* it encourages to pass more. Once you get your passing right and dominate the midfield (like in real life) you can control the game. I'm sure it's the same for 5*
 


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