The Real Madrid Thread [2005 - 2006]

[Socrates]

I my mind, Riquelme is already a Madrid player. After the fame he is already gaining this world cup, he would have to be amazingly terrible for him not be picked up by Madrid after the tournament. As Sheva7 said, he would be too perfect for your needs

Well lets see for AMC we already have Guti, Baptista, Cassano, Raul, Jurado, or even Robinho ( he looked nice in the middle for Brazil and I see no reason why he wont be able to play as an AMC for us ). I think we have more important moves we need to make this summer than buying an AMC...we already have a lot of players simliar to that position so I would not take Kaka or Riquelme.

 

[TheBlueBalla]

Well of course, your holding midfielder, halfbacks, and forwards do need attention, and while im sure those are the priority, none of the guys you mention as Madrid's current offensive mids can "pull the strings" like Riquelme can. But I dont have to tell you guys something that you already know. But a tandem of Riquelme and Diarra up the middle is both very possible and mouthwatering

To me, Cassano and Baptista are best served by being up front, and Robinho, I think, will develop into a fantastic winger, rather than be best as a striker

 

[Socrates]

Well of course, your holding midfielder, halfbacks, and forwards do need attention, and while im sure those are the priority, none of the guys you mention as Madrid's current offensive mids can "pull the strings" like Riquelme can. But I dont have to tell you guys something that you already know. But a tandem of Riquelme and Diarra up the middle is both very possible and mouthwatering

To me, Cassano and Baptista are best served by being up front, and Robinho, I think, will develop into a fantastic winger, rather than be best as a striker

Indeed they cant string passes like Riquelme can but I think we an do without him. With Riquelme to me it seems like the whole team has to play for him in order to get the best out of him. Look at Argentina matches If I am not mistaken they usally have three guys behind Riquelme so he wont have to defend and then Saviola with Crespo to help him in attack so really everything goes to him. Also he is 28 years old now I think and I am sure Villarreal will Carlos*up his price. We wont get Diarra either, too much money for his aswell.

Baptista was tried as a striker and well it did not really work out...but maybe it was beacuse it was in his time where he was playing like crap no matter where he was. Now I now he is not a usual AMC because he is not as good as Zidane, Kaka, or Riquelme in terms of technical ability but I think his physical power, his ability to run at defenders, his ability to score, and his strong workrate can help us a lot. He seems to be ok when he comes back to help defend and when he is running at the other teams defence he is a force to recon with. I think that we got to see the real beast thowards the end of last season and damn he was great.

As for Cassano, I dont think he is a good enough finisher to play up front. To me he seems to be fast, a great dribblers, very creative with nice passing which is why I think he can do well in playing as an AMC but imo he will most likely be sold. I think the only reason he was brought here was for a profit, get him for cheap and sell him for more to some Italian team ( if there is still some left in the Serie A that is ). Maybe its that I have not seen enough of Cassano but judging by the way he plays I think he would do fine in an AMC role.

In order to be a good winger they should be able to cross it nicely which is something that Robinho lacks. He seems to cut in a lot when he plays on the left aswell. He played in the center for us earlier this year but it was a time when he had not be used to his new enviornment and was not performing yet. I think he also has the ability to be a great AMC for us ( Infact I think he has the best chance to be the best AMC out of the three ), he is fast as hell, great dribbler, very creative, and he can also pass nicely. I also think he needs to work on his finishing.

Like I said earlier these guys are not as good as Kaka or Riquelme but I think it will work fine for us, especially if we play a 4-2-3-1 or a 4-5-1.

 

[justhammy]

Indeed they cant string passes like Riquelme can but I think we an do without him. With Riquelme to me it seems like the whole team has to play for him in order to get the best out of him. Look at Argentina matches If I am not mistaken they usally have three guys behind Riquelme so he wont have to defend and then Saviola with Crespo to help him in attack so really everything goes to him. Also he is 28 years old now I think and I am sure Villarreal will Carlos*up his price. We wont get Diarra either, too much money for his aswell.

Baptista was tried as a striker and well it did not really work out...but maybe it was beacuse it was in his time where he was playing like crap no matter where he was. Now I now he is not a usual AMC because he is not as good as Zidane, Kaka, or Riquelme in terms of technical ability but I think his physical power, his ability to run at defenders, his ability to score, and his strong 'workrate can help us a lot. He seems to be ok when he comes back to help defend and when he is running at the other teams defence he is a force to recon with. I think that we got to see the real beast thowards the end of last season and damn he was great.

As for Cassano, I dont think he is a good enough finisher to play up front. To me he seems to be fast, a great dribblers, very creative with nice passing which is why I think he can do well in playing as an AMC but imo he will most likely be sold. I think the only reason he was brought here was for a profit, get him for cheap and sell him for more to some Italian team ( if there is still some left in the Serie A that is ). Maybe its that I have not seen enough of Cassano but judging by the way he plays I think he would do fine in an AMC role.

In order to be a good winger they should be able to cross it nicely which is something that Robinho lacks. He seems to cut in a lot when he plays on the left aswell. He played in the center for us earlier this year but it was a time when he had not be used to his new enviornment and was not performing yet. I think he also has the ability to be a great AMC for us ( Infact I think he has the best chance to be the best AMC out of the three ), he is fast as hell, great dribbler, very creative, and he can also pass nicely. I also think he needs to work on his finishing.

Like I said earlier these guys are not as good as Kaka or Riquelme but I think it will work fine for us, especially if we play a 4-2-3-1 or a 4-5-1.

Couldnt say it better....

'Like I said earlier these guys are not as good as Kaka or Riquelme but I think it will work fine for us, especially if we play a 4-2-3-1 or a 4-5-1.'
I hope you dont mean Robinho when you say 'these guys'

 

[faceNside]

About the AMC thing, I agree with Socrates in the point we don't need it. I'd rather see a classic 4-4-2 with one of the forwards coming back to receive the ball and help in game creation than 4-5-1 with a clear AMC.

For that 4-4-2 what we would need more is a midfielder with both attacking/defensive skills (a player type like Cesc, Gerrard, Deco...) that can partner the DM, since Guti is very inconsistent and De la Red is still young to be given such a big responsability.

-------------------CM--DM------------------
--Robinho/Becks--------------Robinho/Jurado-
------------------------Baptista/Raul--------
----------------CF--------------------------

 

[Socrates]

Couldnt say it better....

'Like I said earlier these guys are not as good as Kaka or Riquelme but I think it will work fine for us, especially if we play a 4-2-3-1 or a 4-5-1.'
I hope you dont mean Robinho when you say 'these guys'

Right now I do but in the future Robinho will be not only as good as they but even better.

face when I say 4-2-3-1/4-5-1 that formation you posted is the one I was talking about. I actually think De la Red can do fine, well if not as a starter than at least as a sub who gets lots of chances to come on.

 

[R.9]

Well of course, your holding midfielder, halfbacks, and forwards do need attention, and while im sure those are the priority, none of the guys you mention as Madrid's current offensive mids can "pull the strings" like Riquelme can. But I dont have to tell you guys something that you already know. But a tandem of Riquelme and Diarra up the middle is both very possible and mouthwatering

To me, Cassano and Baptista are best served by being up front, and Robinho, I think, will develop into a fantastic winger, rather than be best as a striker

I would really like to have Riquelme in a Madrid shirt.

 

[yt23w]

well the formations will be in the hands of the new coach so i hope that we dont play with one striker anymore. the good old diamond was always my favourite. One striker doesnt give the defense much to think about unless their good at holding-up the ball and waiting for runs.

Robinho, Baptista, Cassano, Raul would be better off as Second Striker than as Attacking Mids. That is if any if them are here on July 3rd.....

 

[Stotty]

I have a strange feeling that Manchester United have already signed Riquelme There was a lot of links with him around the time of the Arsenal semi-final and ferguson just happened to be "walking through the villareal hotel lobby" when he walked into Diego Forlan and they had a chat. Anyway, thats just my thoughts, personally i dont think he'd fit into the English game.

 

[KoldPhyre]

Man, i'll say something... I really don't know about the possibility of purchasing any player... especially before the elections and wc's end...
anyways, this is my team...

---------------- Casillas
Cicinho --- S. Ramos -- Alex --- R. Carlos
--- Mascherano --- Maldonado/(Guti)
---- Beckham -- Kaká -- Robinho
-------------- Ronaldo

I really think that Madrid has a good squad... so i think we :drevil: only need:
- 1 great CB...
- 2 solid DMF...
- 1 athletic and technique AMC...
- good subs...

Fenerbahce's Alex is a great CB... here in Brazil, everybody knows that...
a lot of potencial... but i dunno about his situation as foreign...

Mascherano - excellent defender, excellent tackler, hustle player, great vision of the field and good passer...
a lot of potencial... but i dunno about his situation as foreign...
the best DMF in the world... or will be...
i will be very very very sad if he leaves Corinthians... but we are talking about Real Madrid...

Maldonado - same as Mascherano... team player...
but i dunno about his situation as foreign...

with these 2 DMF, we won't need to worry about the LB e RB' runs...

Kaká... does he need any introduction??

Ronaldo has proved once again that he is the best striker in the world... no matter what ppl say... :Bow:

and good subs...

Ah... about Riquelme... obviously he is a great player, but sometimes he disappears in the field, mainly in critical situations...
he can distribute the balls but it's not an athletic player...

... and have anybody ever seen Kompany plays??? is he so good CB??
uffs... thx for your attention...

 

[justhammy]

Fenerbahce's Alex is a great CB... here in Brazil, everybody knows that...
a lot of potencial... but i dunno about his situation as foreign...

Fenebahce's Alex is a great CM not CB
maybe you mean PSV's Alex?! Thats a CB!

 

[KoldPhyre]

Fenebahce's Alex is a great CM not CB
maybe you mean PSV's Alex?! Thats a CB!

oh... yes... for sure...

and Fenebahce's Alex is a brazilian version of Riquelme....
(obviously he is a great player, but sometimes he disappears in the field, mainly in critical situations... )

 

[Stotty]

Kompany has gone to Hamburg.

 

[datboy]

The elections are close. just the thought of this team is mouth watering!

---------------Casillas---------------
--Cicinho--Ramos--Carvalho--Abidal--
-----------Cesc----Diarrá------------
--Joaquín-------------------Robben--
----------Robinho--Soldado----------

 

[Crusad3r]

I would like this:

Riquelme Diarra Cesc

Robinho

Ronaldo Raul

 

[R.9]

I would like this:

Riquelme Diarra Cesc

Robinho

Ronaldo Raul

Could be a nice line-up!

 

[Socrates]

Damn you guys are pretty hopeful for some big name players... You each seem to want either Diarra, Cesc, Robben, or even Riquelme...from that list of superstars only Cesc is what I would really want but its too much money and its impossible so no need to talk about it. BTW no Baptista for you guys?

Awsome sig there datboy

 

[justhammy]

Damn you guys are pretty hopeful for some big name players... You each seem to want either Diarra, Cesc, Robben, or even Riquelme...from that list of superstars only Cesc is what I would really want but its too much money and its impossible so no need to talk about it. BTW no Baptista for you guys?

Awsome sig there datboy

Baptista ROCKS!!!! I have to agree with you Socrates...these names arent needed (well they will cost a lot of money) I would always say NO to Robben even if he was free. Diarra is great but too much money and same for Cesc.

 

[datboy]

Villar Mir claims he got C. Ronaldo now. with him secured and Wenger already as coach. i think he's the favorite.

but who knows if its true?

 

[SlowSilver]

No, it's not true. He's got C. Ronaldo in the bag has he? I believe Ronaldo has said that he would like to stay at Man Utd, there's absolutely no chance we will get him.

And Wenger? Dream on.