The Real Madrid Thread [2005 - 2006]

[justhammy]

Aguero is trully worldclass! I see him often play for Independiente and he really plays great. He is better then Messi and he will show it! (JUST 17 !!!!)

Face, this guy is just 17, so we must get him. We always need young players and if we dont get him, his future will be destroyed at Chelsea.

 

[oussimoes]

i hope that we will get him ( i think that he will go to barca at the end) but does some1 know when woody will return

 

[Parker]

IMO Aguero could be great investment. faceNside wrote that we don't need more forward, but hey that kid is only 17 years! When Messi join Barca he wasn't first team player from beginning. We could convince him to play in lower team, and slowly promote him.

And one more thing about coach. IMO I see Hiddink as only good candidate to be new coach, but there is even no rumour abouth him. I'm afraid Capello would not handle the pression to play offensive football. Benitez renewed contract with Liverpool. Ancelotti isn't so offencive coach as media create him. As Shevchenko-[7] mentioned 'anyone can coach Milan now and play like Ancelotti' and 'Capello at Milan was fun, Ancelotti at Juve wasnt'
Also we could give more time to Caro. Rijkaard first season at Barca also wasn't impressive but they give him time. And what are we doing? We dismiss EVERY coach that hasn't achieve a miricle with Real in really wrong situation. Caro take over the team in wrong situation, with new players, new president and politics he could do much better in new season.

 

[justhammy]

And one more thing about coach. IMO I see Hiddink as only good candidate to be new coach, but there is even no rumour abouth him. I'm afraid Capello would not handle the pression to play offensive football. Benitez renewed contract with Liverpool. Ancelotti isn't so offencive coach as media create him. As Shevchenko-[7] mentioned 'anyone can coach Milan now and play like Ancelotti' and 'Capello at Milan was fun, Ancelotti at Juve wasnt'
Also we could give more time to Caro. Rijkaard first season at Barca also wasn't impressive but they give him time. And what are we doing? We dismiss EVERY coach that hasn't achieve a miricle with Real in really wrong situation. Caro take over the team in wrong situation, with new players, new president and politics he could do much better in new season.

Look, we were all happy with Caro till he left his succesfull line-up. Robinho turned all out of sudden into a benchwarmer. Cicinho too. We play with Zidane on the left side(no speed at all). He also denies the fact that Cassano deserves a first 11 start. And keeps playing Ronaldo while he should give him some time to cool down and train hard. Against Arsenal i give Caro 100% responsebility for the knock out. So i would like to see a new coach who can handle this team and build it up to win some cups.
I dont deny the fact that Caro was impressive at the start, but he f*cked up.
Thats my opinion.

 

[Nuno]

I have to agree. Caro just got stupid one one day and now makes the weirdest/stupidest decisions.

 

[SlowSilver]

Aguero is trully worldclass! I see him often play for Independiente and he really plays great. He is better then Messi and he will show it! (JUST 17 !!!!)

Face, this guy is just 17, so we must get him. We always need young players and if we dont get him, his future will be destroyed at Chelsea.

Oh c'mon, worldclass? The kid is playing in Argentina...not exactly a league full of quality. Messi owned the Chelsea defence on his own.

 

[Lean]

Yea, no player at that age can be called World Class. We can say he's pretty god damn talented, but World Class, well, that's Zizou/Ronaldo in their good days, Ronaldinho, etc.

 

[R.9]

Wow is has been days i have not post.The raison i moved and i needed to wait somes days to get my internet back.I heard the draw vesus Valencia and Barca lost too bad we did not take advantage of that.

 

[Socrates]

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I strongly doubt we need more forwards, except a striker to sub Ronaldo (Adriano :cough: ). There would be no room for him with Cassano, Raul, Baptista...

BTW you're speaking of Raul Garcia as he was a international crack... IMO he has the level to be on the bench as much. Guti and many Castilla players are better than him. Plus he would cost 20 m € or more

I would not pass on Aguero...but I would not overpay for him either. Did you read about him in Marca, he said he is ready for Euro football and that he is ready to take Ronaldo's place. It would be better if we loaned him for his first season though ( unless of course his good/adapted enough to play his first season in Spain with us ).

R. Garica is better than our Castilla players. You can argue about Guti but its good to have that kind of player on the team, if Guti is injured or having an off day ( happens quite a bit ) than R. Garcia can come in and do it. I think he is a very good player and only 19 years old, surely we cant pass on that. I dont think he will coast that much, I would not go over 15 M € for him.

 

[yt23w]

investing in youth is the only way to ensure a great future. Look at Arsenal, in the last few seasons, they bought Flamini, Fabregas, Van Persie, Clichy (and probably more) who are all young players and now some have become first team starters!

But why must Madrid look to Sth America for players? Cant they find anyone in Europe? It doesnt bother me that much but it always seems like thats our fall back plan. And we're alway on it.

I also have noticed a bunch of player and coaches have already come out and said that Madrid have not contacted them, they are happy where they are ect, ect and quite a few too. Has the 'Galactico' Policy turned Madrid into the team no-one wants to join? (lets hope not.....)

R.Garcia plays at Sevilla right?? (If yes ->) and we already got Ramos and Baptista off them before...so.... do u think they are gonna give us another young talent cheaply? not likely.

 

[Socrates]

investing in youth is the only way to ensure a great future. Look at Arsenal, in the last few seasons, they bought Flamini, Fabregas, Van Persie, Clichy (and probably more) who are all young players and now some have become first team starters!

But why must Madrid look to Sth America for players? Cant they find anyone in Europe? It doesnt bother me that much but it always seems like thats our fall back plan. And we're alway on it.

I also have noticed a bunch of player and coaches have already come out and said that Madrid have not contacted them, they are happy where they are ect, ect and quite a few too. Has the 'Galactico' Policy turned Madrid into the team no-one wants to join? (lets hope not.....)

R.Garcia plays at Sevilla right?? (If yes ->) and we already got Ramos and Baptista off them before...so.... do u think they are gonna give us another young talent cheaply? not likely.

Cesc and R. Garica are Spanish and not from S America. I dont care where Aguero and Gago are form, they are both very talented and should be looked at very closely. We may also have some players from Castilla come up next season as backups/rotation players.

I herad Rafa wants to come but he does not want to screw over LPool either, if we can work out a deal with LPool than he will come. Parker Rafa got a contract extension offer but has not accepted it yet. Capello I dont want so I dont care about. Ancelotti does not want to come and people are saying that he is a defensive coach so not him either. The rest I dont know about.

R. Garcia plays at Osasuna. Ramos and Baptista were not cheap. I would not pay more than 15 M Euros for Garcia.

It also seems like Barca are after Aguero too. Hopefully we get him and not Barca.

 

[PaPaGeorGeo]

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R.Garcia plays at Sevilla right?? (If yes ->) and we already got Ramos and Baptista off them before...so.... do u think they are gonna give us another young talent cheaply? not likely.

If you call what you paid for Ramos and Baptista cheap then you have problems:P


Real Madrid doesnt have the scouting network that Arsene has at his disposal also at arsenal if you are young and good enough you will get a chance (unless your english ). Coming to real madrid there is less of a chance for first team football for a youngster coming through

 

[Socrates]

I already talked about Ancelotti and I dont think Wenger will come. He has a very young and good team so I doubt he will leave that project.

 

[Dreath]

I don't think Wenger would want to play for a "European" style team, with a president who calls the shots. Plus I'd be surprised if any megastar manager goes to Madrid for a while, too many sacked managers is a short period of time.

If I were you lot, i'd hope for a lesser known, not unknown, but a manager who is Spanish and has proven himself at a semi-high level. You might want a disciplinarian as well. Although I don't think any manager would last long shouting at your "Galacticos".

 

[Socrates]

I don't think Wenger would want to play for a "European" style team, with a president who calls the shots. Plus I'd be surprised if any megastar manager goes to Madrid for a while, too many sacked managers is a short period of time.

If I were you lot, i'd hope for a lesser known, not unknown, but a manager who is Spanish and has proven himself at a semi-high level. You might want a disciplinarian as well. Although I don't think any manager would last long shouting at your "Galacticos".

You do know Perez quit...right? And Martin promises for changes come next year so lets see how that goes.

Galacticos era is over. A couple will leave this summer and most people want them to leave.

 

[Dreath]

For your sake i'd hope so. If the egos have left then Madrid might start to recover.

Just get your dirty little mits off our players. Go buy Chelsea players or something.

 

[Parker]

Dreath, yt23w and other you are writing like Arsenal system with young player is thousand times better than Perez politics. But with Galacticos we have won few country trophy + Champions League... Arsenal is also over in England and they won nothing in Europe with Wenger. Perez just cross the line when we have bought Beckham, but Galactico era wasn't throphyless.
And don't count only on Real vs Arsenal in CL, that were just 2 games. Yes Arsenal came through but still you can't say that they crush us.

Arsenal with those kids in first team isn't good team they're on 5 place in Premiership, they have the weakest group in CL, and they win 1-0 with Real in one of the biggest crisis in last 50 years! So don't say it as if Arsenal are thousand times better then we!

 

[justhammy]

Oh c'mon, worldclass? The kid is playing in Argentina...not exactly a league full of quality. Messi owned the Chelsea defence on his own.

I meant worldclass for his age. Messi has the backup of a Ronaldinho, Deco, Eto'o, Xavi and they are in top form. Every young talented player would shine in such a team. Well, we must get Aguero and Gago for sure. Aguero as 1st target, because for Gago's place we can get Cesc or Garcia.

 

[Axolote]

Aguero is trully worldclass! I see him often play for Independiente and he really plays great. He is better then Messi and he will show it! (JUST 17 !!!!)

Face, this guy is just 17, so we must get him. We always need young players and if we dont get him, his future will be destroyed at Chelsea.

IMO he isnt better than Messi.

He is a great player with a lot of future...But he still has to improve a lot.

He isnt ready to go to Europe, he only played like 50 games in the Independiente first squad...

Real should improve their midfield and defense, then think in the attacking line...

 

[justhammy]

IMO he isnt better than Messi.

He is a great player with a lot of future...But he still has to improve a lot.

He isnt ready to go to Europe, he only played like 50 games in the Independiente first squad...

Real should improve their midfield and defense, then think in the attacking line...

Its not that we want him to go there and start every game mate...we just want him because he is young and sooo damn talented. he is one for the future. If we dont get him, his future will go to hell if he goes to chelsea. With us he can get loaned out maybe for one year and then play some games in the style that Wenger does with his new young players.