The "Cristiano Ronaldo's future" saga thread.

[MikeyM]

Okay it's the hottest transfer story of the summer and it's clogging up several other threads so here's one of it's very own.

My two cents;

I think Cristiano is one of the most gifted and skilled players I've ever seen - he is the best in the world and I'd love him to stay at United.

However and this is the big "however" I want to see players in that red shirt who are dedicated to the club and are focussed 100% on Manchester United. I hope all this from Ronaldo is gamesmanship in order to try and get a better deal, but I'm beginning to doubt it.

Manchester United have several issues here;

1: Ronaldo is contracted, and United really shouldn't have to consider his future yet.

2: Losing Ronaldo will almost publically state that United are a "feeder" club to the big boys of Europe (especially Madrid)

3: Giving Ronaldo the bigger deal in the middle of a longterm contract will not sit well with other star players.

4: In principle letting him "rot in the stands" for four years is admirable - however I wouldn't blame United for screwing as much cash from Madrid as they could for him. And perhaps Robinho or Wesley Sneijder as well.

Personally I think United should sell him if he decides he wants to go - the sooner the better so we can get replacements (Frank Ribery for example)

 

[thelordspawn]

He's goig to real madrid its that simple. or should i say wat to go to real madrid. i sersiouy dont know whats so special about real madrid they havent done Carlos **** in recent history. rea madrid are apparently offerig Robinho plush cash for Ronaldo. Robinho himself claims man u want him aspart of the deal for ronaldo. CR's Godfaterh has sad that CR ha decided o Madrid and CRs godfather is the one who "conseledd" ronaldoto go to sportig and also to MU inthe firs place. so i wouldnt doubt his word. nw its whether or not Man U are gong to douchebags and not sell him and possiblly make him rot on the bench like the glalzers threaten to do. or they actually decide to let him go. i expet him to wnt to go CR isnt the kind of perso who can commit to 1 club for a very long time. and i expect him to leave

 

[MikeyM]

http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,1778_3640666,00.html

Teamtalk's take on the situation. Be awesome if we could get Casillas.

 

[pede54]

It still amazes me that some fans expect ALL their players to be loyal and dedicated for life to a club.

They are employees doing a job, and unless a player grows up with, and is a life long fan of a particular club, then why expect him to be loyal?

Those days were over a long time ago. Man U attracts mercenaries as much as other big clubs do, so don't be so surprised by that.

 

[Seán D]

My view is that Real Madrid are openly tapping him up. If this was Chelsea doing it there would be hell on earth. Fair enough, most clubs tap up, but they do it behind the backs and don't have the cheek to do it openly. Real should have the book thrown at them, but Blatter's anti-English brigade will come in and protect the crown jewell that is Real Madrid.

If Ronaldo wants to go, let him, he'll cost them though, despite Real's attempt at unsettling him to drive down the price.

He will be a Utd player next year though, and Robinho can suck my balls.

 

[MikeyM]

It still amazes me that some fans expect ALL their players to be loyal and dedicated for life to a club.

They are employees doing a job, and unless a player grows up with, and is a life long fan of a particular club, then why expect him to be loyal?

Those days were over a long time ago. Man U attracts mercenaries as much as other big clubs do, so don't be so surprised by that.

I know that at the end of the day it's a job. But part of me still enjoys the romantic side of football when players cared about their teams, but then when you look at Gary Neville, Paul Scholes and Ryan Giggs and Wes Brown having spent their entire careers at United you can probably see why the mercenaries stand out.

I think what rankles so much is the obscene amount of money these players demand - I seriously believe it's time for a wage cap and transfer cap, perhaps then players will start to worry more about their performances on the pitch than the cash they get off it.

 

[pede54]

Sean, there have been stories for some time now concerning Aston Villa and at least 2 Chelsea players. Chelsea has never been approached by Villa. Neither have the 2 players, but Villa have fed the media with their wishes anyway. This in principle, is exactly what Madrid have done.

This is not tapping up. This is scummy and this is sneaky, but it is not tapping up.

IF Madrid actually arranged to meet the player or his agent, and that meeting materialised, then that would be the case.

Of course Madrid, through the media have let Ron know that they want him. That happens all the time, and I'm surprised that this particular case has got so many United fans so hot under the collar.

It's also very hypocritical to turn a blind eye when your own club do it, ( Hargreaves, Tevez etc), and then go ape sh1t when it's done back to you.

I wouldn't have the nerve to complain, after some of the things that Chelsea have done in the past.

 

[KingPaulV]

Sean, there have been stories for some time now concerning Aston Villa and at least 2 Chelsea players. Chelsea has never been approached by Villa. Neither have the 2 players, but Villa have fed the media with their wishes anyway. This in principle, is exactly what Madrid have done.

This is not tapping up. This is scummy and this is sneaky, but it is not tapping up.

IF Madrid actually arranged to meet the player or his agent, and that meeting materialised, then that would be the case.

Of course Madrid, through the media have let Ron know that they want him. That happens all the time, and I'm surprised that this particular case has got so many United fans so hot under the collar.

It's also very hypocritical to turn a blind eye when your own club do it, ( Hargreaves, Tevez etc), and then go ape sh1t when it's done back to you.

I wouldn't have the nerve to complain, after some of the things that Chelsea have done in the past.

Well said!

Also, all these dreams of getting Casillas, Ramos, Diarrah, Wesley etc are just unfounded and really borderline dreamy...

As I has stated many many times Ronaldo has been luring Madrid and not the other way around. Yes, we would want him, but who wouldnt. We have made no direct contacts with the man, simply have stated that we would love to have him. Ronaldo on the other hand has not once denied his own interest in leaving Man U. or his desire to play in Madrid, so blame him for everything. He started it all.

I should also point out that it is possible that Robihno could leave. While not a choice I would have made as I believe we have a nice team as it is. He could leave in a Ronaldo deal as he has never lived up to his full potential with us. Truly this season he was coming alive but then he got injured and never regained his form...still a very decisive player when he is on.

 

[april__29]

As I has stated many many times Ronaldo has been luring Madrid and not the other way around..

eh? have you actuall been reading anything or did you just make that bit up? cos all i recall is mraca banging on about it and calderon and his cronies banging on about him goin, cant recall one article where ronaldo is luring madrid like. im really not sure how you can see it that way given the amount of press coming out of spains tabloids...sorry real madrids tabloids.



i dont want to see him go but i mean weve lost bigger players before, plus madrid will pay obscene money meaning we can just go and get more players, weve gotten over better players leaving and will again.,dont want to see him go tho.

and to be fair what can real offer? the odd la liga and getting knocked out of the cl in the last 16 every year

 

[Bobby]

Man Utd, Barca, Chelsea, Madrid = Tap up scum
Arsenal = Holy

 

[KingPaulV]

no Arsenal are just craddle robbers, that's all....



If you missed the whole other post i made in the Man U thread then, it would serve you well to read it prior to comention further on what Marca prints as news, or before even implying that Marca speaks for Real madrid because it does not, rather Marca speaks to destabilize Calderon (Madrid's President).

As far as Ronaldo being the one luring Madrid....case an point.

Take his lastest declarations on a news conference over the weekend...."I have a dream to play for Real Madrid. Everybody has dreams..." umm if that's not throwing yourself at a team I dont know what it is...When asked earlier in the season if he would ever consider a move to Real Madrid (by an English reporter) "Yes, its been a dream of mine since childhood, a team i could not deny.." so again I dont know what you call luring a club but to me that is

 

[Help?]

I think everybody knows that i was defending Ronaldo for like the past 2 month. But after hearing some of the recent reports from him, especially the one where he said that he will decide his future in 2 or 3 days, i am not ashamed to come out and say that i was wrong. Real Madrid would love to have Ronaldo and they are stirring the pot a little bit with all this talk, but its Ronaldo himself that created all this commotion. He is the one to blame and you know what, if he is doing that to get a bigger contract just a year after he got a bumper new one, then what's gonna happen next year? Same crap all over again and a third contract for Ronaldo in three years? Nah, that just messes the team morale up and makes everybody think about money rather than trophies. So if he really wants that badly to play for Real Madrid, i don't blame him, he grew up in that environment, he won't get kicked and tackled with potentially career-ending tackles as much in La Liga and he will be able to dribble past more players without getting an elbow in the face or a boot in the ankle. Ronaldo, didn't grow up as a life-long United fan, so really we can't ask him for much loyalty, he wants to go to Real Madrid let him go there while the price tag is so high and lets find a replacement fast. Lots of fans we'll be pissed, but they'll be over it or they will **** off to Madrid together with all the little girls.

 

[newbie original]

...2: Losing Ronaldo will almost publically state that United are a "feeder" club to the big boys of Europe (especially Madrid)...

At 905,000,000 GBP, ManU >>> Real Madrid (~656,000,000 GBP)

"Big Boys"??? As much as I hate to say it, a club like yours shouldn't have to be in a fight over such issues.....the only party to be blamed here is the player himself. To put it plainly, SAF scraped him off the floor below the fridge and made him what he is today. He should ATLEAST see out his contract..........as a way of thanking the Scot.

EDIT: Personally, I think that the "saga" will be settled in the next 2 or 3 days.

 

[Jaouadinho]

apperently hull are making an offer.

anyway man u wont sell him, even if he demands to leave according to sir alex furgoson, hell rather put him in the reserves then sell.

we missed the boat on getting him 2 years ago after the world cup, thats when we really should have tried to get him, it would of been cheaper and much easier back then.

but like everyone here is pretty much saying ronaldo is a lot to blame for this, if he came out and said i dont want to leave i want to stay then it would of never have gotten to this point and calderon and co would of stopped ages ago, the same thing happend with kaka but he came out and said i dont want to leave milan and that was the end of it.

 

[mnj2x]

wtf... i thought ronaldo said hes staying right after we won the CL.

or was that the media putting words into his mouth?

 

[farmboy]

no, he did. but the media kept asking him and he kind of backed away from his initial statement.

 

[MikeyM]

wtf... i thought ronaldo said hes staying right after we won the CL.

or was that the media putting words into his mouth?

But then he told Radio5 straight after that he would decide "after Euro08" now he has apparently said he will decide in the next couple of days.

I also thought that was the end of it, but Ronaldo seems to be fluttering his eyes at Madrid a bit too much.

 

[KingPaulV]

This is modern football lads, that silly little claim by Fergie that he'll let Ronaldo sit on the bench rather than sell him is just straight up silly. It wont happen. If he wants to leave, much to his chagrin, Fergie and co. will have to negotiate...If the negoations 'Fail' that's a different ballgame, but if he asks to leave they will have to sit down and talk

 

[adedawson]

This is modern football lads, that silly little claim by Fergie that he'll let Ronaldo sit on the bench rather than sell him is just straight up silly. It wont happen.

he's done it before, admittedly he sold them in the end. But I agree, it wont happen. He will either stay or get sold for lots of money.

 

[MikeyM]

I certainly don't like the idea he'll stay for one more season then go. Either he's committed to United or he isn't - and if he isn't then there are many more players out there who would die for that shirt on his back.

Either he agrees to see out his contract or we sell him now for megabucks - I do not want him skulking about for a season.

UPDATE: Manchester United Chairman David Gill has just reiterated their stance he said United will not sell and that's the final word. Ronaldo will join up with United after his Euro 2008 holiday (he'll miss the Africa tour)