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The Arsenal Thread [2005/06]
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Arsenal, please whup Chelsinski's ass this Sunday. I've had about enough of them.. 
Lampard is the best player in the EPL, hands down. Henry might score 5 goals against West Brom on the saturday, but then hell be a nobody against the big teams in Europe on the Wednesday. Lampard will be the deciding player in both. Lampard always peforms on the national stage aswell, the same can't be said for Henry. Lampard had last season 19 goals and 31 assists. Thats 50 goal's hes involved in last year. Hes unmatched.SB9Dragon said:
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Kulixs said:
Exactly u are talking about ucl not the premiership
I like lamps much more than henry but i believe that henry is the best player in the premiership
becksfranksteve said:
well said...though i would like to add that henry himself featured in quite a few assists which a superb for a striker. Also sometimes he also had to take up the role of a playmaker when vieira and others were injured, that makes him the multirole striker whereas lampard plays best only in the mid. and no where else since he dosen't have enough speed(you can't deny that cuz he said this himself !)
you are comparing a midfield player to an out and out striker....it just dont work.If you are gonna compare them you have got to look at all round contribution to the season,and not just goals.You cannot call Henry a playmaker.He might slip in a pass here and there but he just does not have whats needed to be a playmaker.He scores goals ,thats his role.He has not got the physical strength to be affective any further back than the forward line.Whereas Lampard is solid,reliable(not one game missed last season),and for a midfielder scores an impressive amount of goals.As an all round player ,Lamps wins hands down i'm afraid.Dont just think of the Prem but Europe and internationally.Lampard is reliably consistant.Henry is not.
As for buying the title (old old news)...get ready ,'cos we are gonna "buy" it this season too..............
As for buying the title (old old news)...get ready ,'cos we are gonna "buy" it this season too..............
Lampard is no where near even being the best player in the league. Jesus christ. Three words- Gerrard, Henry, Terry
Lampard isn't even the best scoring midfielder. Pires havng that title wrapped up with ease. Henry is the benchmark for the premiership nowadays. He's so much better than anyone else it's pointless to compare. He scored 6 goals more than anyone else in the league last year playing far less games than most of his competitors. He was top assister as well. Anyone who knows about football knows that the "big game bottler" thing is bull****. Didn't he score 2 in 2 against Chelsea and set up 2 against Man Utd? He scored more goals against Chelsea than any other player, therefore Rooney must be an even bigger bottler for not scoring once in a potential of 4 games? Bollocks to that. Lampard has had one average and one good season and he's the best in the league?! Henry has been topscorer golden boot winner 2 years running, he won Players player of the year 2 years running prioir to last season.
Then you come to Gerrard. Gerrard is a beast of a player. That performance in the second half of the CL final where he successfully played right back to astronomical preportions. His heart for the game is bigger that Fat Lampard's waist.
Now John Terry even for a Chelsea player is a monster of a defender. He carrys Chelsea singlehandedly and that's a feat with Fat Lampard in the team. Look at the Barca game in Catalonia. Lampard was sh*te, Terry saved the tie for Chelsea.
Lampard isn't even the best scoring midfielder. Pires havng that title wrapped up with ease. Henry is the benchmark for the premiership nowadays. He's so much better than anyone else it's pointless to compare. He scored 6 goals more than anyone else in the league last year playing far less games than most of his competitors. He was top assister as well. Anyone who knows about football knows that the "big game bottler" thing is bull****. Didn't he score 2 in 2 against Chelsea and set up 2 against Man Utd? He scored more goals against Chelsea than any other player, therefore Rooney must be an even bigger bottler for not scoring once in a potential of 4 games? Bollocks to that. Lampard has had one average and one good season and he's the best in the league?! Henry has been topscorer golden boot winner 2 years running, he won Players player of the year 2 years running prioir to last season.
Then you come to Gerrard. Gerrard is a beast of a player. That performance in the second half of the CL final where he successfully played right back to astronomical preportions. His heart for the game is bigger that Fat Lampard's waist.
Now John Terry even for a Chelsea player is a monster of a defender. He carrys Chelsea singlehandedly and that's a feat with Fat Lampard in the team. Look at the Barca game in Catalonia. Lampard was sh*te, Terry saved the tie for Chelsea.
hahahahahahahahaha.you are so wrong Dreath its funny.And your personal dislike of Frankie shines through your post and therefore makes anything you say about him instantly dissmissable.You are still going on about the Prem only.You just wanna push Europe and International duty into the background.He is not reliable and consistant.END OF.He does bottle the big games ...its not bull poo it is fact.You can quote how many times he has won the golden boot too but using that logic,Lineker or Keegan are also fantastic players still.We are talking about last season really.I know you think the sun shines out of Henry's bum mate,and of course he has got his good points,but he is a striker and thats it.He is no good for anything else and as a captain he will be invisible.He is too much of a wimp.Dont get me wrong,i kinda like the bloke,but you gotta be objective about these things.
As for Gerrard....so you gonna put Stevie ahead of Frank on 45 minutes out of a whole season?........Talk sense man..........
You just wish Frankie was at Arsenal and thats about the strength of it.
As for Gerrard....so you gonna put Stevie ahead of Frank on 45 minutes out of a whole season?........Talk sense man..........
You just wish Frankie was at Arsenal and thats about the strength of it.
Nah I think he'd rather wish Gerrard to be at Arsenal.
Lampard is hardly an all round player, his defensive qualities are just about as good as Henrys. There ain't nothing that Lampard has that Henry hasn't.
Also, talking about Internationals and Europe, hasn't Henry won a World Cup, European Championship and a Golden Boot there too? Don't even try to give me the 'well what about Henry at WC 2002/Euro 2004?' crap, because it wasn't just Henry, nearly the whole French team was aload of ****e.
There is the big myth about Europe too, facts my arse. He is the third highest scorer in Champions League history. Last season he scored 5 in 8 games. That's not even mentioning the goals he has scored in the past against big teams such as PSV, Juve, hat-trick against Roma, Inter Milan, Lyon, Valencia, etc.
Not only this, but the amount of goals in the Prem that he has scored against you guys, Man Utd and Liverpool (and at the most important times, like that hat-trick), kinda makes people like you who say this nonsense seem just a little bit silly.
:sun: <-- Henrys Backside
Lampard is hardly an all round player, his defensive qualities are just about as good as Henrys. There ain't nothing that Lampard has that Henry hasn't.
Also, talking about Internationals and Europe, hasn't Henry won a World Cup, European Championship and a Golden Boot there too? Don't even try to give me the 'well what about Henry at WC 2002/Euro 2004?' crap, because it wasn't just Henry, nearly the whole French team was aload of ****e.
There is the big myth about Europe too, facts my arse. He is the third highest scorer in Champions League history. Last season he scored 5 in 8 games. That's not even mentioning the goals he has scored in the past against big teams such as PSV, Juve, hat-trick against Roma, Inter Milan, Lyon, Valencia, etc.
Not only this, but the amount of goals in the Prem that he has scored against you guys, Man Utd and Liverpool (and at the most important times, like that hat-trick), kinda makes people like you who say this nonsense seem just a little bit silly.
:sun: <-- Henrys Backside
pede54 said:you are comparing a midfield player to an out and out striker....it just dont work.If you are gonna compare them you have got to look at all round contribution to the season,and not just goals.You cannot call Henry a playmaker.He might slip in a pass here and there but he just does not have whats needed to be a playmaker.He scores goals ,thats his role.He has not got the physical strength to be affective any further back than the forward line.Whereas Lampard is solid,reliable(not one game missed last season),and for a midfielder scores an impressive amount of goals.As an all round player ,Lamps wins hands down i'm afraid.Dont just think of the Prem but Europe and internationally.Lampard is reliably consistant.Henry is not.
As for buying the title (old old news)...get ready ,'cos we are gonna "buy" it this season too..............
I really do not understand this post on so many levels.
First you say you cant compare the players because they are different players ( which to some degree i agree with) then you proceed to compare them... ????
Henry's game is all about coming deep and running with the ball so obviously he can play the ball in midifeld!!! and wenger is one of the strongest strikers around
You seem happy to play on henrys apparent bad points but you forget about lampard's lack of pace, if he was the focal point of the attacks up front of course he would suffer because he has never played there before.
Now this business of Henry not delivering in the top games, this is just bull****. He has scored time and again against Chelsea and Manchester United. and he has scored more european goals than Lampard, whilst acheiving more than lampard as part of a team and individually. Arsenal dont have as many "superstars" in their teams as Chelsea so any off game he has in europe he will obviously be the focus of the criticsm.
Both are great players. but Lampard does not "win hands down".
Bias its a funny thing!!
damn rightso you just wanna ignore the negatives then?Forget about the World Cup 2002 and Euro 2004?You will not get an all round oicture of anybody by taking that route.
Lamps is not a defender,but for a midfield player he does a good job as a forward too.Henry is a forward and that is ALL he can do.Granted he is good at his job,but he is impotent anywhere else on the field.As i said before the two cannot be compared because they are 2 completely different players ,playing in 2 completely different positions.
Sure France won the world cup 98 (7 years ago)but to be fair Henry did not have a lot of input into that squad at the time.the forwards were Youri Djorkaeff , Ibrahim BA ,Patrick LOKO, Christophe DUGARRY and Kluivert.Henry was on the bench sometimes, and scored one penalty,in a shoot out with Italy in the quarter finals.Not a big influence on their world cup win was it? He got a medal as part of the squad.
Same with Euro 2000.He scored 3 goals in the group stages and thats it.They even pulled him off in one game for Anelka,who scored instantly.We are not talking about past history mate,otherwise we might as well bring in other players with a much better career history than Henry.Sure he has scored important goals,but he has also NOT scored important goals as well.I like the way that you mention all the positive games in Europe but fail to mention the games when your lot looked poor,inept and outclassed.Listen ,Henry is a great striker.Nobody is denying that,but unfortunately one good striker is not enough.He can't do it on his own. You need to be objective to put over a fair argument but you do not do that.Too much Arsenal bias mate.......
Lamps is not a defender,but for a midfield player he does a good job as a forward too.Henry is a forward and that is ALL he can do.Granted he is good at his job,but he is impotent anywhere else on the field.As i said before the two cannot be compared because they are 2 completely different players ,playing in 2 completely different positions.
Sure France won the world cup 98 (7 years ago)but to be fair Henry did not have a lot of input into that squad at the time.the forwards were Youri Djorkaeff , Ibrahim BA ,Patrick LOKO, Christophe DUGARRY and Kluivert.Henry was on the bench sometimes, and scored one penalty,in a shoot out with Italy in the quarter finals.Not a big influence on their world cup win was it? He got a medal as part of the squad.
Same with Euro 2000.He scored 3 goals in the group stages and thats it.They even pulled him off in one game for Anelka,who scored instantly.We are not talking about past history mate,otherwise we might as well bring in other players with a much better career history than Henry.Sure he has scored important goals,but he has also NOT scored important goals as well.I like the way that you mention all the positive games in Europe but fail to mention the games when your lot looked poor,inept and outclassed.Listen ,Henry is a great striker.Nobody is denying that,but unfortunately one good striker is not enough.He can't do it on his own. You need to be objective to put over a fair argument but you do not do that.Too much Arsenal bias mate.......
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