The AC Milan Thread [2006/2007]

[jim]

It should worry Inter also, if we won't participate in the UEFA cups we just could be forced to put an effort in winning the Coppa Italia this time

Milan should worry about winning any sort of trophy, they weren't doing it while they were cheating, why start now?


let sh*tstorm ensue

 

[rony31]

holy ****, just heard the news... happy we're still in Serie A, but no CL and -15 really sucks... and Stephan, maybe there's something BEYOND that one phone call that we're not aware of? if not and they just punished us out of sheer suspicion, that'd be some serious bull****... "hey, the president of SerieA and the former PM of Italy work for you don't they... well that's all the evidence we need!"

whatever, at least we stayed up... and ya, if we still win the next SerieA, Inter are gonna hear it

 

[Stephan_BEL]

Milan should worry about winning any sort of trophy, they weren't doing it while they were cheating, why start now?


let sh*tstorm ensue

There is absolutely no proof we cheated. In fact we did not cheat. On the other hand you Inter boys should verify some of the passports of your foreign players (do you have other ones still?). Recoba comes to mind. Maybe Berlusconi should file a complaint to the FIGC...

 

[jani]

Absolutely gutted. Lets see who's really MILANISTA in our team now.

 

[BayernFan01]

Il Bahrain capture Kaka

 

[TheBlueBalla]

Absolutely gutted. Lets see who's really MILANISTA in our team now.

Ok, I know I pick on you alot, but this is absurd. There is NO REASON to be absolutely gutted

Yes, you miss out on Europe this year, and you get the minus fifteen, which is going to make the Scudetto race a very hard sell

Now, on the flipside
1. You dont need the money from revenues because your owner is richer than god
2. Youre probably keeping all your players
3. Youre almost certainly ADDING several world class talents like Toni, Buffon or Zambrotta.
4. Your biggest rivals are a stuck-in-the-mud Roma, a bunch of chronic chokers in Internatzionale, and the up and comers like Udinese, Sampa or Palermo.
5. No euorpean football sucks, but having a determined and above all, underdog group of players, which is what you now have, determined to prove their worth and defy the odds to win a championship, and they have only this to concentrate on, and the Coppa. Honestly, I wouldnt be surprised if youre still undefeated by matchday 15
6. Youre keeping Kaka for sure. That alone is worth celebrating

Id also venture to say that you will be in the CL by the end of the year. The fourth spot took 74 points to get last season, and you finished with 88. 88 - 74 = 14. Now, your "top" competition will be somewhat weaker, and you will be coming in with a stronger team

Anything is possible, and you might just play rubbish for all I know, but I would be opening the bubbly if I were you

 

[jani]

I was gutted because I never really thought of the possibilty of not playing CL till yesterday. I was pretty confident Milan wont get relegated so I was just preparing for point deductions.

Still, I really, really we appeal at least for CL. I prefer playing CL and not reducing the deduction, cause like you say, the league is a whole lot easier now. And Inter..

 

[Stephan_BEL]

-15 puts us out of reach for the Scudetto, even before the season starts, despite what optimists say, it's 15 points in theory but 30 in reality, take the best possible scenario : we win our first 5 matches : we are still last in the table with zero points. In the meantime Inter and Roma could still be at +15 if they also won theirs, even the relegation candidates would have already a few points, then **** happens you lose one or two matches (statisticaly invevitable unless Moggi phones someone) and you're struggling the whole season to even get into UEFA qualification.

If the verdict stands after appeal, our most realistic target is the Coppa Italia. Now the appeal is a double edged knife, it annulates the first trial, but it's verdict could be worse than the first one. (hardly possible but still, imagine Serie New judges will have to assess all evidence and make new rulings, but this in less than a week to meet the UEFA deadline. Keep in mind that Empoli doesn't have an European license and that in the present situation we take their spot in the UEFA cup as next in the standings, this could change with the second verdict (if we are docked even more points).

But It's a scandal that we got docked 59 points total for one dubious phonecall, putting us out of the CL, which means a lot of money loss in the next two seasons, and a reason why big names won't come over to Milan, effectively reinforcing our Italian and European opponents.

Now the transfers, Kaka said he would stay in Milan in Serie A, but imho he whispered "if they play CL only" and the journalist didn't hear it. After the Shevchenko case, I don't believe those interviews anymore. Caldéron, the new Madrid chief was also very confident about landing Kaka so I guess he will be out.

Nesta and Pirlo, hard to tell, I wouldn't know, well my feeling tells me one of both will leave, don't know which one though. And all incoming transfers of big names as I said will be cancelled, maybe we'll get Buffon, but Zambrotta and the others I really doubt it.

 

[jani]

you are being extremely pessimistic and you know it. just read your whole post again

lets look at last years final standings :


Juve 91
Milan 88
Inter 76
Fiorentina 74
Roma 69


we are a massive 12 points ahead of Inter. and we lost once againts them. its a weakened league as well. I dare say its not the hardest thing to win the league next season.

About Nesta, Pirlo and Kaká. I dont think they will leave but Im worried about Kaká. I hope he is an honest man when he commited himself to Milan by signing the contract. Usually one wouldnt feel worried, but after what Sheva said before and then left, one becomes paranoid.

Lastly, be realistic, appealing a verdict at worst doesnt change anything. I dont think they would further penalize Milan! That would be insane. And all this for one phone call? What a farce. Damn.

 

[datboy]

Does this mean that Milan get Juve´s 04/05 and 05/06 Scudettos?

Rossonero, maybe you have to change sig soon, again?

 

[Juventino]

Does this mean that Milan get Juve´s 04/05 and 05/06 Scudettos?

No

 

[datboy]

so you get to keep them both?

 

[Juventino]

Under the current verdict no-one will get them I think...

 

[datboy]

oh, ok. thanks for clearing that up man.

 

[Stephan_BEL]

oh, ok. thanks for clearing that up man.

Inter staff and fans are crying their eyes out to get them though. One is officialy annulated (2005-06) so goes to no one. But the 2004-05 one is revoked from Juve, but I have read nowhere that he will or won't be assigned to anyone...

 

[jani]

If anyone, that belongs to us, doesnt it?

 

[AmbroDani]

______________Buffon
Zambrotta__Nesta__Kaladze__Serginho

 

[Stephan_BEL]

If anyone, that belongs to us, doesnt it?

Yeah, we were second with no points docked for that season. Even Mancini, Inter's coach says that scudetto should be non assigned (as he damn well knows that it would be awarded to us if not annulated) but he claims last years one. Their fanatics claim the last two seasons and about 15 of the 27 Juve titles lol, if I want a good laugh I go read Inter boards in invisible mode.

 

[Stephan_BEL]

Forget about the UEFA spot The tribunal forgot Empoli didn't have an european license to play there, so they are now urged to obtain one in a speed procedure the bastards, lol.

 

[jani]

but Milan are gonna take these to the courts if they dont get into CL. I dont know. guess its gonna be too late..