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Surprise, Surprise....Brazil to host 2014 World Cup

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Dipanjan

Guest
I really have doubts over them hosting it but if South Africa can host it why not Brazil.
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Kibe Kru

Starting XI
Maracana's been upgraded for the Pan Am games, though if it is to host a World Cup, I'm guessing it'll have to be upgraded once more. Oh, another chance to steal government's money! woohoo!!

Here's hoping something happens and we end up handing it to the Argies
 

Avalanche

Senior Squad
If South Africa 2010 ends up being the 10 ring clusterf*ck that we've been fearing for the better part of three years, then expect Brasil 2014 to be that times 1000.

Long story short: FIFA will eventually pull the 2014 hosting rights from Brazil, and will reassign them to a country that is capable such as Australia or the United States.
 

El Diablo Rojo

Starting XI
Kibe Kru;2426420 said:
Here's hoping something happens and we end up handing it to the Argies

And there's hoping that it stays in Brazil.
Supposedly we are going to host the Copa América in 2011, even though it wasn't confirmed yet, i don't see any idea, project or anything to work on the stadiums that could be possible hosts(the ones that were used for different tournaments in the past) nor clubs of situable cities doing anything, yes there are some clubs working on new stadiums but not in places that could be picked up for hosts. i.e: Independiente's stadium is highly unlikely to be picked to host, regardless of how good it'll be. And if it has to be in South America, probably Venezuela could do it seeing their stadiums for the Copa América. Maybe they would need 1 or 2 more for a World Cup.

Avalanche said:
Long story short: FIFA will eventually pull the 2014 hosting rights from Brazil, and will reassign them to a country that is capable such as Australia or the United States.

...thinking again if Brazil can't do it then better hand it to us.
 

Nakamura

Reserve Team
I have confidence in Brazil's ability to host the WC. I think people are seriously underestimating the countries' capacities, development and structures. Of course there will be problems and there is a lot of work to be done, but in the end I think it will work our fine.

Being a Portuguese and a Brazilian (I have dual-citizenship), living in Europe (Portugal), I can honestly say that there are some aspects in which Brazil, especially cities like São Paulo, Porto Alegre or Curitiba, are not only on the same level as Europe, but even some better than in Portugal. Now, we all know Brazil also has some serious problems, but that can be worked out.

Euro 2004 was a huge success, WC Brazil 2014 will also be (the Pan-American games in Rio this year were very successful). Now, of course there will be huge sums spent, that could be used to make people's life better instead or solve the countries problems, but we all unfortunately know how those things work...
 

KingPaulV

Starting XI
a lot of you guys here are disgustingly biased towards what you view as third rate countries, and it is a shame because you are all so quick to point out how backwards they are based more on generalisations than on facts....shameful really...
 

dsh

Youth Team
FIFA inspectors have made the necessary approvals and recommendations:

"The report noted security concerns in some areas, but added that Brazil has enough resources to improve the situation before 2014. Brazil also received good marks for its public transportation, hotels and budget preparation."

From USA Today.

I've never been to Brazil and I don't know much about their economy -- is this all just wishful thinking on FIFA's part?

I'd love to see a successful World Cup in Brazil. It's been too long since it was last held in South America -- in 2014 it will have been 36 years.
 

Eagle Winged

Youth Team
KingPaulV;2426931 said:
a lot of you guys here are disgustingly biased towards what you view as third rate countries, and it is a shame because you are all so quick to point out how backwards they are based more on generalisations than on facts....shameful really...


It's funny really. A bunch of nobodies on an internet message board who've probably never set foot in either South Africa or Brazil, or even their respective continents, know better than FIFA on who is capable of hosting their own tournaments.

Some people are so deluded, it's sickening.
 

thetrooper37

Senior Squad
Avalanche;2426470 said:
If South Africa 2010 ends up being the 10 ring clusterf*ck that we've been fearing for the better part of three years, then expect Brasil 2014 to be that times 1000.

Long story short: FIFA will eventually pull the 2014 hosting rights from Brazil, and will reassign them to a country that is capable such as Australia or the United States.

I highly doubt that.
 

Kibe Kru

Starting XI
dsh;2427143 said:
FIFA inspectors have made the necessary approvals and recommendations:

"The report noted security concerns in some areas, but added that Brazil has enough resources to improve the situation before 2014. Brazil also received good marks for its public transportation, hotels and budget preparation."

From USA Today.

I've never been to Brazil and I don't know much about their economy -- is this all just wishful thinking on FIFA's part?

I'd love to see a successful World Cup in Brazil. It's been too long since it was last held in South America -- in 2014 it will have been 36 years.

The situation CAN be improved before 2014, though only time can tell if it'll be any better by then...

The biggest problem seems to be security-related, though the Pan Am games happened in relative peace. Rumours have it that the government paid drug lords to keep it calm during the month, as things started to heat up again just after the tournament. Of course, the Pan Am games can't be compared to the World Cup in any way, but it seems that we won't have security problems in 2014.

Hotels are also ok, and we should be able to cope with a World Cup in that department with minor investments. Of course, it all depends on where the matches will be played, which leads us to another problem... Brazil is a huge country. I wouldn't be happy if the side I was following played in Belem, Porto Alegre and Recife during the group matches.

Public transportation... well... if they mean public transportation between cities, it's quite bad at the moment. We're in the middle of what we call aerial chaos, following two big air crashes. Flights are delayed way too often, and there's a shortage of air traffic controllers. Inside the cities, well... I don't live in a big city, but I had a nice enough time when on my own in Sao Paulo using only the subway system to get wherever I needed to. My mom had her purse cut open while on a similar situation, though, so it can be nasty.

How on Earth they got good marks for budget preparation is beyond me. Oh well, maybe they do prepare good budgets, but fail to follow it, and in the end, much more public money is needed to get everything ready. The Pan Am games in Rio were supposed to cost around R$400M, and ended up costing 9 times more than that...

Only time will tell if it'll be a good World Cup in 2014. Brazil does deserve to host a World Cup, for all their success and the passion of its people when it comes to football. But I keep my opinion that we're not ready to host anything right now. There are much more serious problems to take care of right now.
 

KingPaulV

Starting XI
guys it is 2007, you do realize that rigth?....just in case cause last time I checked there is still another world cup that has to be played before we even begin to talk about Brazil seriously, all kinds of things can happen in nearly 8 years...so, relax; and yes, shameful again that some of you are so quick to jump to conclusions on countries and parts of the world you have never even fathomed in you little worlds.
 

PhiLLer

Fan Favourite
I'd love to see the what kind of increase in traffic São Paulo will experience during a World Cup. The place doesn't have any rush hour. Rush hour is all ******* day long there.

So yeah, what I'm saying is they're going to have to work on the infrantructure for sure. As well as security, fans from all over the world will be easy targets.
 

treble41

Senior Squad
I have a friend, goes to Brazil almost every summer. Forgot what city but it wasn't Rio or Sau Paulo, it wasn't a small city either. He always comes back full of complaints. He loves the Brazilian football but I've heard him criticizing how things are and the stadiums.

They obviously aren't in shambles but I'd prefer someone else to host to world cup like Australia.

This whole safety thing with South Africa can go all the way to world cups being hosted in iffy countries in terms of security. Bob Woolmer may not have been dead if the World Cup wasn't in the West Indies for cricket. That's a different issue though.
 

Kibe Kru

Starting XI
KingPaulV;2427285 said:
guys it is 2007, you do realize that rigth?....just in case cause last time I checked there is still another world cup that has to be played before we even begin to talk about Brazil seriously, all kinds of things can happen in nearly 8 years...so, relax; and yes, shameful again that some of you are so quick to jump to conclusions on countries and parts of the world you have never even fathomed in you little worlds.

If we don't start improving things now, they won't be ready for 2014, simple as that. But of course, being Brazilians, we'll just leave it to the last minute, like we did in 1950, Maracana being built in record time and all that...
 

kramer11

Youth Team
If I'm honest, I'd have liked to have seen another South American country hosting it, other than Brazil. The game is already insanely popular there and the World Cup is the only tool Fifa have to spread the game and benefits (better stadia, improved infrastructe etc) around. So maybe a joint bid by a couple of countries might have suited things better.

Brazil will put on one hell of a party though! :Carlos*o:
 

treble41

Senior Squad
They weren't gonna give it to Ecuador or Bolivia or whoever. Probably too scared of high altitudes. And whenever it does go back to North America, it should be Mexico and not the US but same story, they're scared of high altitudes. I think it'd be better if they just stopped trying to promote the game in America, if it gets more popular than great, if not, that's fine. We don't want Americans to possibly ruin it. I mean, I don't wanna wake up in 10 years time to listen to some former ESPN commentator who's moved on and is commentating on sentanta sports Premiership matches.
 

KingPaulV

Starting XI
treble41;2427680 said:
They weren't gonna give it to Ecuador or Bolivia or whoever. Probably too scared of high altitudes. And whenever it does go back to North America, it should be Mexico and not the US but same story, they're scared of high altitudes. I think it'd be better if they just stopped trying to promote the game in America, if it gets more popular than great, if not, that's fine. We don't want Americans to possibly ruin it. I mean, I don't wanna wake up in 10 years time to listen to some former ESPN commentator who's moved on and is commentating on sentanta sports Premiership matches.

why not? it would only be benefitial for the game....that is just another dumb comment, on the heels of many many more made by others....I am still trying to figure out how is it that the Americans would ruin the game? but whatever....as far as the Brazil thing; yes it is fine that planning needs to start now, but realize that it is not 1950 and in this day and age, FIFA will have a provervial foot up Brazil's butt to make sure deadlines and schedules are met, or do you really think, people just suddenly show up with a built stadium. The Organizing comitee is not just responsible to Brazilian authorities but also to international (FIFA) and other authorities.......so; there is plenty of time for the issues whatever they might be to get fixed.....
 

Kibe Kru

Starting XI
KingPaulV;2427753 said:
as far as the Brazil thing; yes it is fine that planning needs to start now, but realize that it is not 1950 and in this day and age, FIFA will have a provervial foot up Brazil's butt to make sure deadlines and schedules are met, or do you really think, people just suddenly show up with a built stadium. The Organizing comitee is not just responsible to Brazilian authorities but also to international (FIFA) and other authorities.......so; there is plenty of time for the issues whatever they might be to get fixed.....

Of course, it's not whether stadiums will be ready, but how much money will be put into it, and where will that money come from. Of course, it's not your taxes, so you're fine with it.
 


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