Stats in FIFA 06...Some surprises!!

[Templario]

I am a big fifa fan and every year I wait with anticipation the new edition just to check how the stats have changed...
I mean, those little numbers represent a player, a man and his abilities, his ultimate skill and the definition of his class.. or the absence of it...
Several times fifa has dissappointed me with terrible marks (I don`t want to say examples cough*ferrara*cough) but this new (and already beloved) FIFA 06 has renewed my hopes...
From the screens that I have seen, some info was unveiled and these are some of the new stats:

Robinho 91 (why? he didn`t do anything yet)
Raúl 89 (I have always though that he was a sacred never-less-than-90 cow)
Cristiano Ronaldo 91 (no more no less, perfect)
Rooney 91 (again, he deserved it)
Ronaldo 93 (did not see that coming)
Zidane 94 (98 in fifa 2004, 96 in 2005... see the pattern?)


Well, those are the ones that I can recall, so if anyone knows more please write it down... remember these are real stats from the real screens of the REAL AND ONLY FIFA 06

(((I would post the picture or the link but I don´t know how (did I mention this is my first thread/post?))))

 

[Brondbyfan]

Oh boy, some Real blunders there. Pun very intended.

EA continue to consistently overrate Madrid. Now I'm aware that they have introduced that "team chemistry" feature in '06, probably specifically to address the problem of Real Madrid. Their team chemistry should be zero. Even considering that, there is no excuse for Robinho making a 6 point leap in ability from his already inflated 2005 score just because he's joined Madrid. Raul has been in horrible form for over a year now, Zidane can't kick a ball in anger without getting hurt, and 93 is only applicable to Ronaldo these days if we're talking about his daily intake of Hostess cakes. Based on this ratio of ratings to performance, Thomas Gravesen and Michael Owen should get a rating of 112.

Does EA Canada even watch soccer? Have they seriously failed to recognize that Perez's strategy doesn't work? And finally, does anyone besides them think that Zidane is still the greatest player in the world?

 

[Templario]

Totally agree, what shocks me more is Robinho, man, I couldn`t believe my eyes!!! what he has done really??.. In confederation cup he was just a thin guy with strange non-dangerous cheap tricks... I can see him being the WORST new player in this year. (I don`t hate Madrid or Robinho but that was because he is the MOST OVERRATED PLAYER IN THE WORLD right now and that, added to the enormous pressure of having to be the savior of Real ...well I can only see him failing... I hope not (he is not bad...he is really talented but he chose the wrong club to begin in Europe) because I love to watch good footbal from any club)

 

[becksfranksteve]

why do u care now we can edit them

 

[Brondbyfan]

Yes, Becks, we can edit them, but you're missing the point, which is that EA are approaching ratings all wrong once again. Odds are good that there are going to be a lot more mistakes than the ones Templario listed, and changing them all will be time consuming, if not impossible. I don't really know what Robinho's ratings should be, and I shouldn't have to research it. I pay EA to do that for me. And I pay them to give me an accurate soccer game, not to cheerlead for Real Madrid and lick the boots of every flavor-of-the-month that pops up. Five bucks says Michael Essien's rating will change if he moves from Lyon to Chelsea.

 

[Templario]

Why EA loves BRAZIL so much?

Editing is not the solution, I buy and love Fifa because of its AUTHENCITY. Gameplay was awful in 2004 compared to that PE bastard game (gameplay is (was) its only strenght) but still I continued faithful to the great feeling of having a FIFA licensed game. I have seen more ratings:

Ze Roberto 92 (jeez, I am a Bayern fan but that was unexpected... and undeserved)
Roy Keane: 88 (ummm fair enough for me)
Gattuso: 87 (maybe because of a cupless Milan?)
Seedorf 90 (nah, ea just hate Genaro)
Sheva 94 (I am OK with that)
...
About Real Madrid, these numbers confirm the licking theory:
Helguera: 89 (!)
Figo: 91 (according to the screen that was before the inter switch, are they going to maintain that extreme stat now that he is not galactico?)
Samuel 86: (before Inter switch, fine)
Salgado: 87 (did that change?, I cannot remember)
Beckham:88 (incredible, I didn't think I would live long enough to see an 88 Beckham...)
Vieri: 89 (in the pic, he is at Milan... poor boy, he was one of the best in 2005)

...
For Argentina, almost nothing has changed except for:
Mascherano: 87 (umm I don`t know, it is the Brazilian league not Europe)
Tevez: 87 (the same...nevertheless he has some talent)

Well, it is clear that EA loves Brazil, they didn`t change anything but they also improved thair players.. There were some of them how didn't deserve the boost ( robnho,ronaldo,ze rob) but I (want to ) believe that stats are the last thing EA will do, they have to observe the development of the players until october... I am positive about some stats being changed (figo 91??!!!!)

There is some problem about some ratings, Kaka for example has 91 in one and in other he has 92.. weird... (this makes me think that ea will change some stats)

Incredible but cupless once more Madrid (with Figo and Samuel),

http://jogos.uol.com.br/galerias/pc/fifa06.jhtm?foto=fifa06&fotoimg=60&dirconsole=pc

There you can also see Milan... Maldini 92?? well he is class but no more than Nesta 90

This is Tevez (finally a face):

http://jogos.uol.com.br/galerias/pc/fifa06.jhtm?foto=fifa06&fotoimg=43&dirconsole=pc

Brazil madness!!
http://jogos.uol.com.br/galerias/pc/fifa06.jhtm?foto=fifa06&fotoimg=31&dirconsole=pc

 

[bennismalls]

Maybe team chemistry has to do with the rating.

 

[Brondbyfan]

I thought the same thing about Figo. Now I like him a lot but there's no way he's a 91 anymore. It's going to be hilarious when they switch him to Milan and he loses the +10% Madrid bonus. The rating for Helguera is completely laughable. I'm also curious to see how much Gravesen's rating has increased since he left Everton for Madrid. The Milan ratings are odd too, why is Nesta suddenly worse than Maldini and Stam?

You're right about the Brazil ratings as well. It doesn't look like they are taking the new "team cohesion" rating all that seriously. They continue to rate teams based on their player ratings, so they artificially inflate player ratings if they are on a five-star team. Yes, Brazil are phenomenal, but that doesn't mean that every player has to be world class.

 

[Templario]

I don't have that much faith in "team rating"... How can you measure it? Let's say Real has 0 team rating...I think this will affect the stats of their players so after all individual ratings is what matters.
I guess that one of the teams with high cohesion stat will be Greece and that is because EA cannot explain how non galacticos players can win something...
If it is that way lets call it Luck Rating.
I would like to see Premiership stats: who will be the new 97 henry??
Umm BTW the only player from Brazil who deserved a boost, Ronaldinho, is now 94 (93 last year I believe...he is the mind and soul of the Champions of LA LIGA, and for sure the best player from Brazil...compare that to robinho (robinho who? )

 

[Lior]

The players rating is calculated from the average of his main attributes.

E.g. for a forward it takes his shot power, accuracy and some other forward related attribute and gives him a rating. So they are averages.

 

[Brondbyfan]

Which is a pretty poor way of doing it. Consider Thierry Henry. Worthy of a 95+ rating? Absolutely. The problem is that FIFA rates all strikers the same, and heading plays a big part in this. Thus they have to artifically give Henry, a man who lives by the motto "Heads are for thinking," a high header rating. You know, the more I think about it, giving numerical ratings is looking more and more impossible.

One more point I'd like to make: EA doesn't account for form enough. I think that it will become more important this year in the career mode. However, it isn't considered at all for friendlies. Look at the Madrid ratings. At his best, sure, Zidane can be a 94. But, whether due to injury, age, playing out of position, or just bad form, how often do we see him at "94" level? Same thing with any of those players. Those numbers are best case scenarios. EA should consider the facts like Raul usually sucks now, Woodgate is always hurt, Ronaldo is inconsistent, and Beckham usually sucks now and adjust their numbers for friendlies accordingly. Maybe you'll get Raul at his best, but rarely. It's up to you if you want to risk putting him in you starting XI.

 

[Joe Star]

Whats so suprising.......EA cock up with the ratings every year :boohoo:

 

[Cosmo]

Ze Roberto and Robinho Very overrated

 

[Templario]

Ummm I don`t know if even Zidane can be a 94 (right now, I remember the 98 figo 98 zidane madrid of fifa 2004 and that was justified)...Of course in the best scenario but everyplayer has his day, even those ones who suck.. I believe that EA should put more importance in a word that all football is about: LUCK
Random things could be a great way to level teams: bad referees, maybe some fights due to the reactions of the players (I would love watching Totti spitting and then expulsed), more importance to the effect of those funny green and yellow faces which determinate the motivation of the players (what is the real effect of those ones?).
Well but all this is wishful thinking... If some one else has more stats, come on I am waiting for Bayern numbers!!!

About Henry his heading is the worse thing that he has, beacuse of that he is not 99!

 

[becksfranksteve]

Editing is not the solution, I buy and love Fifa because of its AUTHENCITY. Gameplay was awful in 2004 compared to that PE bastard game (gameplay is (was) its only strenght) but still I continued faithful to the great feeling of having a FIFA licensed game. I have seen more ratings:

Ze Roberto 92 (jeez, I am a Bayern fan but that was unexpected... and undeserved)
Roy Keane: 88 (ummm fair enough for me)
Gattuso: 87 (maybe because of a cupless Milan?)
Seedorf 90 (nah, ea just hate Genaro)
Sheva 94 (I am OK with that)
...
About Real Madrid, these numbers confirm the licking theory:
Helguera: 89 (!)
Figo: 91 (according to the screen that was before the inter switch, are they going to maintain that extreme stat now that he is not galactico?)
Samuel 86: (before Inter switch, fine)
Salgado: 87 (did that change?, I cannot remember)
Beckham:88 (incredible, I didn't think I would live long enough to see an 88 Beckham...)
Vieri: 89 (in the pic, he is at Milan... poor boy, he was one of the best in 2005)

...
For Argentina, almost nothing has changed except for:
Mascherano: 87 (umm I don`t know, it is the Brazilian league not Europe)
Tevez: 87 (the same...nevertheless he has some talent)

Well, it is clear that EA loves Brazil, they didn`t change anything but they also improved thair players.. There were some of them how didn't deserve the boost ( robnho,ronaldo,ze rob) but I (want to ) believe that stats are the last thing EA will do, they have to observe the development of the players until october... I am positive about some stats being changed (figo 91??!!!!)

There is some problem about some ratings, Kaka for example has 91 in one and in other he has 92.. weird... (this makes me think that ea will change some stats)

Incredible but cupless once more Madrid (with Figo and Samuel),

http://jogos.uol.com.br/galerias/pc/fifa06.jhtm?foto=fifa06&fotoimg=60&dirconsole=pc

There you can also see Milan... Maldini 92?? well he is class but no more than Nesta 90

This is Tevez (finally a face):

http://jogos.uol.com.br/galerias/pc/fifa06.jhtm?foto=fifa06&fotoimg=43&dirconsole=pc

Brazil madness!!
http://jogos.uol.com.br/galerias/pc/fifa06.jhtm?foto=fifa06&fotoimg=31&dirconsole=pc

I believe becks was once 80
(and this was the year he came 2nd in world player of the year)

 

[barthez4]

As long as Van Der Sar is a 99, I'm happy.

But seriously, Zidane needs to come down a few points, same with Robinho. High 80's definitely, but not 90's. Also, Roy Keane isn't a 91 anymore. He's at most an 87 or 88.

As for team ratings, I think that the TEAM RATING should be based on the players, but if there is a poor team chemistry, then they won't perform. Maybe a player normally at 95 will only act like a 90 if the team doesn't have good chemistry.

Oh, and as long as the lower leagues get appropriate ratings rather than just getting slapped in the face with awful ratings, I'm slightly happy.

 

[Cosmo]

Van Der Sar 99 ! NOWAY

Dida is thousonds times better than Van Der Sar, naah..not thousands, but hundreds times, thats for sure

 

[becksfranksteve]

no he's not they are about the same

 

[Filipower]

kaká 92 and ze roberto too??i mean, ze roberto is a great player, but :Bow:kaka

 

[cashless]

Hehe, they crack me up every year! Don't know how much these numbers really means once you actually play the game. I feel like that's been a real problem for alot of sports games up til this point, that you can't really seperate the players.