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Spanish media and football association should be ashamed(but they dont care)

pede54

Team Captain
A report from Reuters concerning the total lack of reporting of the Racist chanting by the Spanish NT "fans"during two "Friendly" games played on Nov 17 and Nov 18...............

Spain gloss over racist chants


MADRID, Nov 18 (Reuters) - Spanish media and football authorities glossed over racist chanting that marred Wednesday's friendly between Spain and England and accused the their English counterparts of mounting a witch-hunt against them.
Spain won the friendly at the Bernabeu with a determined and stylish performance, the only goal of the game coming from a ninth minute header from Athletic Bilbao defender Asier del Horno.


But the game was marred by continual monkey noises directed at visiting black players and by a regular chorus of 'If you are not f**king black jump up and down' sung by large sections of the 55,000 crowd at the Real Madrid stadium.

After the game the Spanish Federation's press officer Fernando Garrido refused to permit any questions about the incidents, saying that some of the blame for the incident lay with English reporters.

'Were there racist chants against some players? This hasn't happened in the Spanish league and Spain for many years,' he said. 'So you (English reporters) should ask yourselves what you have done to contribute to all this.'

The runup to the match was marked by controversy involving coach Luis Aragones, who mounted an angry defence of his recent comments about Thierry Henry in which he had referred to the Arsenal and France striker as 'that black ****' during a Spanish training session last month.

Aragones refused to comment on the chanting by the crowd, saying he was only prepared to answer questions on his team's performance.

'I've always said my conscience is clear and I only want to talk about football,' he said.

A 10-minute anti-racist video was shown before the match on the stadium's big screens and the two teams lined up behind a banner bearing the slogan 'All united against racism in football'.

But the atmosphere soured as soon as the game started with Ashley Cole and later substitute Shaun Wright-Phillips greeted by monkey noises every time they touched the ball.


Despite the furore, Marca, Spain's leading sports newspaper, insisted the subject had spiralled out of control and accused the English Football Association of fanning the flames.

One of their columnists, Miguel Angel Mendez, wrote: 'It's one thing that we have a coach and another that people see something wherever they look.

'What the (English) FA have done is make a noise about nothing.

'At the under-21s there were songs and racist chants towards the England team's black players? I repeat that is a lie.

'There were insults but not because someone is black, white, green or blue.

'That happens every weekend in every ground throughout the world.

'If you want to look at some bad behaviour, look at the England fans who arrived totally drunk. Are we going to say all England fans are drunks?'

Marca gave more column inches to the actions of Wayne Rooney - the young England striker who was taken off by Eriksson shortly before half-time after a series of reckless challenges saw him threatened with a red card.

'Rooney went mad,' Marca said.

Although Diario AS printed quotes from England captain and Real Madrid midfielder David Beckham which expressed his disgust at the chants, the paper only dedicated four lines to the subject in a paragraph which also mentioned 'various incidents between Madrid ultras and England fans'.

The paper also refers to Aragones' post-match press conference, saying that his stubborn answers of 'no comment' to repeated questions about the incident were because he 'didn't want to enter the trap set by the English journalists'.

Barcelona-based paper El Mundo Deportivo does not even mention the issue, preferring to focus on the excellent performance by Barca midfielder Xavi.

The only measured assessment of the racist abuse came in El Pais - Spain's most liberal paper.

Their experienced columnist Santiago Segurola was scathing in his criticism of the crowd's behaviour and the Spanish FA.

'English football perfectly reflects the changes their multi-ethnic society has gone through. Football has served as an element for balance,' he wrote.

'It is a country that is sensitive and attentive to conflicts such as those started by Luis Aragones with his comments about Thierry Henry.

'The English FA have protested to UEFA and FIFA over the events and they have done well to do so,' added Segurola, who was less impressed with his own country's response.

'As usual the Spanish FA's reply has been disappointing. Someone should moderate Luis Aragones or we will have more damaging conflicts.

'This is a case that has damaged the image of Spanish football.'

El Pais' more right-wing competitor La Razon takes a different view, briefly mentioning the racist chanting saying it was 'the perfect excuse to continue the war between the English press and the Spain coach'.


Absolutely disgusting from a so called civilised country within the heart of Europe.I hope that Spain never get to host another tournament of any kind ever again.Its bad enough when an ignorant minority behave this way,but to have the Spanish media and the Spanish football authorities actually defend the racists and make excuses for them.......Then its time to exclude that country from taking any further part in any multiracial events,be it football or the Olympics or whatever.Sure we all have racists in our countries but does your media or football association support those racists.They do not where i come from....................
:kader:
 

pede54

Team Captain
The players lounge is supposed to be for any topic.This is not just about football .....this is about Mass media Racism and the attitude of the Spanish football association........so why was it moved to here?
 

#1 Stunna

The Alpha Mexican
Originally posted by pede54
The players lounge is supposed to be for any topic.This is not just about football .....this is about Mass media Racism and the attitude of the Spanish football association........so why was it moved to here?

(H)
 

pede54

Team Captain
Originally posted by -Vince-
Hypocrites


This topic has already been discussed.


so whats that mean ?....we all go away and forget all about it?........we've already had the thread closed so we cannot discuss it any more........whats the reason for that?
 

FIFAfreak

Youth Team
I don't know if they should be more ashamed of the racial taunts or the constant diving when it's more than apparent the ball was won nearly every time... That kind of gratuitous diving is something you expect from other neighboring European countries (Portugal, Italy) but not Spain.

They outplayed England though and earned the result... England's physical game backfired once they let their tempers get the best of them.

Great save from Robinson! :hump:
 

CAFC4LIFE

Youth Team
we should have just walked off the pitch and refuse to play in front of such disgraceful acts (i cant believe fools on that other thread thought it was only 50 ultras chanting, more like 5000 atleast), they want to make a point about rooney, bet they dont mention the fact that the spanish players fell down like a sack of **** when breathed on! (joaquin etc.) just sums up their arrogance if you ask me..........their (spain's) attitude is "your hooligans who cares if england get **** on" well i hope fifa hit them where it hurts........olympic bid shattered? WCQ behind closed doors? well if there is any justice in the world this would be minimum punishment. I mean how stupid are the spanish press and FA to blame the english press for creating racial hatred? It wouldnt matter if this was spain or azerbaijan action needs to be taken, what example does this set to youngsters at the game? a feckin bad one thats what. THERE IS NO PLACE FOR RACISM IN ANY ASPECT OF LIFE:kader:
 

valioso

Fan Favourite
here we go.. the english people pretending this doesnt happen in their own country... :boohoo: :boohoo: :boohoo:
 

CAFC4LIFE

Youth Team
here we go again more arrogant spanish people:boohoo:
hasnt happened for a couple of decades as we are educated about racial equality, something many last night dont have a clue about.
 

pede54

Team Captain
It does not happen in England wise ass.......the English media would come down like a ton of bricks if any English idiots behaved like that.Also our FA would not condone racism either but yours does.If Ericson would have said what Aragones said about Henry ,he would have been sacked immediately.....Thats the big difference you silly boy.......thats what living in a civilised society is all about.You seem to think that its natural and normal to be intolerant.The only reason you can have for defending those idiots who conspired to ignore what happened ,is that you must feel the same as them.If English fans behaved like that,I would feel ashamed ......dont you see .....they have shamed your country around the world.......are you not angry at them?
 

Thelonious

Senior Squad
Originally posted by CAFC4LIFE
here we go again more arrogant spanish people:boohoo:
hasnt happened for a couple of decades as we are educated about racial equality, something many last night dont have a clue about.

Dont pretend racism doesnt exist in England , it does.

I agree that the spanish reaction has been poor , its only a small minority of people and could be easily dealt with. They need to identify the people doing and ban them from matches. The spanish FA should make a apology for the fans as well. As for the media they only write what people want to read , notice the lack of coverage the match recieved in england compared to the racism.
 

Raikkonen

Senior Squad
Originally posted by valioso
here we go.. the english people pretending this doesnt happen in their own country... :boohoo: :boohoo: :boohoo:

it doesn't matter 'where' or 'when' this happened... it's racism, and should be punish. The spanish media thinks this is some kind of conspiration of the english ppl, but everyone heard the 'uhhh-uhhh' yesterday.

i.e., AS wrote only 2 lines about this: 'En el partido hubo aficionados que gritaron frases racistas contra los jugadores negros de Inglaterra' :o

yeah, it also happens in the UK, but that doesn't mean that the spanish can do it too.
 

0le_Spain

Senior Squad
Here's the thing. Having a racist ideology is stupid, ignorant and shameful, but i don't think its illegal so wtf is the spanish association supposed to do ? quiz all the mutha****ers who go see the matches on social tolerance?. Sure action should be taken but this is more a matter of ethics and education. One thing we can do is fire Aragones, who may not be racist, but is one dumb mutha****er.

True the english press were trying to pick a fight with Aragones, but that's where you show your grace and clear things out, instead of gettin at it with reporters and talking about the english and the colonies, when we've done the same throughout history.

But for the english dont act like you'll aint racist, maybe not against blacks lately but all the time i hear the brits using derogatory terms for the:irish,scots, french, argies...... so quit the bull****

i have spoken :mrpimp:
 

pede54

Team Captain
Nobodys pretending anything man.....Racism exists here,there and everywhere but this is not the argument in hand is it?You say the Spanish media only write what the people want to read......and that means that the media do not write what the people do not want to read.....This is the big problem isnt it?......The Spanish people SHOULD want to read about the Racism perpetrated in their countries name......and the Spanish media SHOULD feel the need to report it whether the public want to hear it or not. There is a very good reason why the English media reported the Racism more than the football.It had nothing to do with the fact that England played crap....that has not stopped them in the past mate.....It was because when civilised people witness THAT kind of behavoir at a football game.....the sport just isn't important any more.Personally i had to turn the game off after about 30 minutes because i just couldn't bear to hear the noises or to see our black players so visibly upset by it all.Nobody should condone or defend racism ever.This is the whole point of the argument.
 

bigp

Reserve Team
The problem with this is the English players already branded Spanish people as racist when they wore the Kick Racism out shirts. If they wanted a crusade to end racism they should where it wherever they play. But it seems that this was the only time they wore it (correct me if I'm wrong).

Also I didn't watch the game but did the monkey chants get louder as they game wore on or was it always loud to begin with? Because if it got louder as the game wore on then I guess that the ignorant Spanish fans were joining in on the monkey chants because they saw that it bothered the English players. Fans do enough stupid **** like throw things, etc. Maybe some of these fans had no idea what they did was racist but rather just wanted to distrupt the English team.

So the majority who joined in were probably ignorant but the ones who started it were racist.
 

Bobby

The Legend
Next time is happens, the team being abused should pick up the ball and leave.

It would shame FIFA into action, hopefully a heavy action.

There is no word that can describe this crap, disgusting is far to light. This is 2004, people.
 


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