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SOUTH AMERICANS ARE SOOOO MUCH BETTER TECHNICALLY THAN EUROPEANS PERIOD

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burner

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OH come on guys
the last game
BRAZIL Vs. World Selection
who won? (I Know BRazil didn't lose that game!)
why are so many latin american players at Europe?
Are Europeans Managers Crazy?If European Players are better why do they contract LA players?wow...you have the best players and the stupid managers..haha!
and...
wow....
I didn't know the europeans were the best players in the world...

Ah..blargggg...
come on ...
Latin American Players Rock's!!!
Ronaldo
Batistuta
Roberto Carlos
Rivaldo
Felipe (you don't know this guy...do you?!)
Have you all ever heard about a guy called: Edson Arantes do Nascimento - nickname: PELÉ?
Hm...let me think.
Sony Anderson - isn't this guy a good one?
Élber - isn't he playing for germany national squad??? Why is he there?cuz he know he isn't good to play for brazil!!!

About Brazil vs. France..
on that match Brazilian team was without Ronaldo (he was in the pitch..right!) and all the team was ..sad ..about the episod that happened!

In normal conditions Brazil would have never Lose!

SO....SURRENDER TO LATIN AMERICA SOCCER!


 
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Italy82

Guest
Burner ,u r really stupid .First of all Ronaldo scores only on penalty shot and hes a faggot cause he keeps getting injured.Burner ,you named some crappy brazilian players .Here are a few europeans that can easily beat those South Americans.
Gk-Van der sar
Gk-Schmeichel
Gk-Buffon
Def-Maldini
Def-Hierro
Def-Mihailovic
Def-Thuram
Def-Stam
Def-Dessailly
Mid-Zidane
Mid-Davids
Mid-Boban
Mid-Beckham
Mid-Overmars
St-Vieri
St-Schevchenko
St-Bergkamp
St-Inzaghi
St-Suker
St-Del Piero
St-Bierhoff
and many many many more.
Burner ,you keep talking about legends like Pele,What about Cruyff,sounds familiar?Or perhaps Beckenbauer,Dino Zoff,Van Basten,Platini,Klinsmann,Puskas etc...Before you say anything ,European players are as equal or even better than South Americans.
 
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Woody_007

Guest
You know .... I think ITALY82 should move on from the past, I know Brazil beat Italy in the final (and if u were watching the same game that me and everyone else in the world was watching, you know that Brazil completely outplayed Italy, and Italy was lucky to get to the penalties) ... but still, move on. Brazil is the best .. I dont see Italy tearing up Europe. Didnt they get beat by Belgium in Italy?? (nothing personal to Belgian fans, they deserved that win)

Canoe, Brazil is numero uno in the rankings because they are technically superior to all the other teams ... why else do u think they are number one?? geez ... where was your logic??

ZZUB ... beer sucks ... try Bailey's and milk. The best stuff on Earth, or maybe a screwdriver. (thats a drink .. Vodka and OJ)

Simonius_13 .. B4 WC 98, FIFA had an All-Star game ... Eurpoe vs South America (it was acutally the Rest of the World Team, but only Weah mabe the starting line-up) and the Rest of the World won .. 6-2. Ronaldo scored four, BatiGOL scored twice. So much for European defence. Oh and in mid-field you forgot Simeone, Veron, Assuncao, Leonardo, Poyet, Juninhio .... in Defence you forget Cafu, Zanetti and that defender for River Plate, I forget his name ... um .. where the Plate fans at?? At forward ... you forgot Elber, Santa Cruz and Yorke. but ... BIEFHOFF?? BETTER THAN SALAS?? WHAT YOU DRINKING?? (I will end with that)

 
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Bolso

Guest
Maybe FIFA should organize a match betewen South America and Europe.
 
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Toronto_MUFC

Guest
It's called HEART, which the south american teams and players don't have, which is also very important. True Dat, dumb topic.
 
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Kewell the Jewell

Guest
Ok this topic is soooo funny to read cause you all sound like idiots.........but i just had to join you guys!!!

When i read this it seems that when the South Americans write about their best players they are always from Brazil, Argentina, Chile...and a couple from other countries.

But Europe has great players from most countries...
You name the best Sth Ameriacan player from every Sth American country and im sure they wouldnt compare to the best player from every European country

maybe u should change your topic name to
"BRAZILIAN AND ARGENTIAN PLAYERS ARE SOOO MUCH BETTER TECHICALLY THAN EURO PLAYERS..."
 
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Canoe

Guest

I want to apologise to my mum, and Woody007's mum, and all the other guys's mums, sorry for not 'using my logic' when I fully knew that Fifa's ranking is based upon teams being technically better than others and not based upon actually match results.
Please note that technically inferior Norway beat technically superior brazil twice in 98.

 
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PolishPower

Guest
Brasil lost that game vs Norway in WC on a bad pk call, and anyway I think they didnt want to win that game, just like they lost their last group game in 94 vs Sweden.

Also- all star matches mean absolutely nothing as it is players treat it as vacation, did you see Brasil-Barcelona? it must have been the most awful game I ever saw, the Europe vs rest of world in Marsaille 97 was another awful game.

I think the only way to make it work is to offer 10 or 20 million dollars to the winners, then maybe youd see a good game...otherwise forget it id rather watch the weather channel
 
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Ice

Guest
European teams are far, far better than South American teams. The South Americans play a flashy game that falls apart as soon as it hits something solid ie. Brazil vs. France. And if the South Americans are so great why are Brazil and Argentina the only decsent team on the entire continent? Europe has Germany, England, France, Italy and Spain just to name a few. I'm not questioning that Brazil is a great team but when it comes to the big picture Europe is far superior.
 
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PolishPower

Guest
Ice: when it comes to big picture its 8 world cups for S. America, 8 for Europe, I would say it looks pretty even....
 
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Bolso

Guest
to ICE:

Brazil and Argentina are not the only good teams in South America, altought they are far supperior then say Uruguay and Peru, but Chile, Paraguay and Colombia are quite good to, just that they didn't have an exelent WC dosn't mean they're terrible. Colombia beat Argentina 3-0 at in Copa America and then was discualified by Chile 3-2 who later got discualified by Uruguay. But still they are good teams. Chile drew all their first round games in WC even the one against Italy, then they lost to Brazil. Paraguay beat Nigeria who beat Spain, then lost to France by a lucky goal, had they gone to penalties Paraguay may of won.

So if by decsent you meen team that win World Cups then Europe doesn't have so many either.


[This message has been edited by Bolso (edited 12-26-1999).]
 
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YLK

Guest
Actually England did make football, in the Tudor times it was a game where the aim was to get the ball to another village by any means.

South American leagues may have presented Ronaldo, Romario, Garrincha, Cafu, Rivaldo to the world but most of them all left to go to... EUROPE BECAUSE THEY WANTED A CHALLENGE. If South American Leagues are sooo good then why dont the GOOD South Americans stay in South America. English players stay in England because they are already in a good league, the same goes for Italians (Baring those that move to England or Spain). Face it the South American leagues are Rubbish, they may have a few good players but they all move to Europe eventually. And if a league could be won by any team it shows that the teams are all weak and there are know outstanding teams.

Fact = World Cup Winners Europeans
Fact = World Club Champions Europeans
Fact = 3 best leagues in world European
Fact = Europe made football

You may have World player of the year (who plays in Europe), but the 2nd and 3rd were both European.
 
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Lord

Guest
Fact = YLK is stupid (soorry guys but I couldn't resist)

I am Brazilian, You are? So stop to talk about something you don't know!
No one, No One! Players go to Europe for the challenge! They f*** off about the challenge!
You could want it, But they don't!
They only want the money! Money!!!
Challenge? Give me a time...

Fact = 8 WC for South and Europe
Fact = If you think that France was the better team at WC 98, and that Holland vs Brazil wasn't the real final, pity for you.

Now go play if your Santa toys!

For the rest - My 2 cents:
They are just diferent kind of players!
I like Laudrup very much!
And the second best player for me is Puskas!
But I think that Brazil and Argentina have more greatest players, not because they are better, but because 90% of Brazil and Argentina plays soccer!!
So make the counts: 161 Millions Brazlians 90% playing soccer against 40 Millions ( don't know the right number) Spanish 40% playing soccer.
 
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Canoe

Guest

Oh lord, please remember that results are exactly that. France beat Brazil, Holland ended 4th. I would have loved for Holland to have won it, but they didn't. One thing you can't argue is results, cause they are the only FACTS around. Whether it be by luck, or whatever, a win is a win, a draw a draw and a loss a loss.
 
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YLK

Guest
Err... I am English, I have been to at least 200 English Premier League games, I have been to 6 Euro 96 International games and 3 International games of Le Tourne Wa (That tournament with France, Italy, Brazil and England), I have sky digital and I watch games from all over the world when I can.

You call me stupid, France V Brazil was the final of the World Cup of 1998 as far as I new... And France won that game 3-0.

Yes I accept the fact that players leave South America for the money, but still the point is that 90% of the good South Americans players leave the South American Leagues. Meaning they play in Europe and make the European Leagues better. The European Leagues are far better.

If the South Americn players were far better and and the South American leagues were better than the system would work the other way round Europeans would leave to go to South America for the money.

Though I kind of agree with your last statement.

 
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YLK

Guest
Oh and if the Argentinian, Columbian, Chilian and other South American leagues (baring Brazil) are sooo good...

WHY ARENT THEY IN FIFA 2000

Instead of the Scottish, Swedish and Turkish leagues ect?
 
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Edoardo

Guest
YLK why do you keep avoiding my question ??? also south american players dont leave south america and go to europe its not like they wake up one day and say i think i need more of a challenge so im going to europe...this is how it happens a euro team any team has a weak ass player in a certain position and they want a good player to take his spot so instead of looking in their own country to find one, they know that if they do he will be just as weak so they go to brazil and get a 16 year old kid with no shoes that can play way better and posses a certain flair that newspapers cant get enough of because you guys like reading this $hit and watching their highlights on t.v so that you can TRY to play like them,and offer him bags full of money so he can rock their club like its never been rocked before...in South America they dont need to spend lots of money to have a good team they just get kids from the streets since down here we eat,sleep,breath futbol and were born all ready knowing how to play while euro players have to pay money and go to footie school !!! ALSO WHEN IS SOMEONE GOING TO ANSWER MY QUESTION WHY DO EURO CLUBS HAVE TO DEPEND HEAVILY ON FOREIGN TALENT ??? SINCE THE BEGINING OF THE WORLD CUPS IT HAS BEEN (ITALY,GERMAY,HOLLAND,ENGLAND,FRANCE,)EUROPE VS BRAZIL AND ARGENINA 5 VS 2 AND ITS 8 CUPS A PIECE SO WHERES YOUR DOMINACE OH YEAH I FORGOT LOWLY URUGUAY WITH A POPULATION OF 10,000 AND THEY HAVE 2 WORLD CUPS MORE THAN ENGLAND FRANCE AND HOLLAND HE HE HE..
 
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edu

Guest
I dont take into count the ´66 world cup that England won. They bribed referees to won that one. So to me its:


South America 8 x Europe 7


YLK if you think that the only good players in South America are from Brazil or Argentina then you didnt watch France x Paraguai.

Also if Europe is so much better how come MANU didnt outscore Palmeiras, they only won because the referee didnt give that goal to Alex. And palmeiras didnt even qualify for the Brasileiro Finals.

If Manu played Corinthians (brasilian champs) they would get their asses kicked. And dont tell me Manu has better players because if that was true then Manu wouldnt be offering 40+Millions for Edilson a Corinthians Foward.


 
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Italy82

Guest
I think you need to reread the rules and guidelines Italy82

[This message has been edited by Ric (edited 12-26-1999).]
 


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