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So after playing the FIFA07 Demo - I went to my wallet

RicFlair

Youth Team
got out my Credit Card and ordered PES6 ...

There is NOTHING "NEXT -GEN" about 360 FIFA NOTHING!

More of the same load of BS - "FIFA has made strides" "FIFA is getting there"

F That - call me when you DO get there and then I'll purchase you - PES IS there always has been ...and I wanna love FIFA - I WANT FIFA and it's great licensing and Presentation to Surpass the stripped down - barebones PES - that survives like a LION on it's superb Gameplay and AI.

Call me when you can run with the Big Dogs FIFA until now ....stay on the porch.
 

LuvPES

Youth Team
True ignorance, I have noticed that this FIFA game is a next gen- it definitely is not the same and I must say it is a great game, winning eleven does things better and this game does this better than Wining eleven also.

I love PES but it is obvious that PES's gameplay is getting kind of stale and old. I will definitely not buy PES on the current gen, but only for the 360 and it better not be a port.

I have to say, by the demo I have played, I am really starting to dig this and the amimation is superb, this is definitely a new engine.
 

LuvPES

Youth Team
plus4s said:
Hardly stale gameplay. It's the gameplay that keeps this baby on top of the pile.

It's stale to me and many others, just go to the PES room, you will hear it, PES is a great game but why make newer versions? the improvements are really hardly noticeable IMO, so let me reiterate, "STALE"

PES will have to come good in the next gen field if they expect a good review by all, otherwise their going to call it a port and should have stayed on the current gen.
 

plus4s

Youth Team
Yeah yeah yeah , fifa brings out a new game every year too, and sometimes more than one game per year. And also with very few changes and still with the same faults as previous versions.
Granted this year fifa looks very very good, and until pes 6 comes out there is nothing to compare against it. Graphically that is.
You see pes has got a big thing that fifa has not(well in previous versions that is) and that is playability. Pes has allways had this for as long as i can remember.
Each year that passes konami have only to tweak the gameplay slightly, and maybe bring two or three new player abilities into play. And they know their still on a winner. They don't have to create a brand new engine for the game, because what they have works a treat.

Believe me i love playing soccer games, and for the first time for some years i was excited at the thought of playing a fifa game again, you know with all the correct player names and kits.
This is not a post bashing fifa, i think they have done really really well this year.
 

Mightyglens

Club Supporter
plus4s said:
Hardly stale gameplay. It's the gameplay that keeps this baby on top of the pile.


PES is stale. Seabass said it himself that PES6 for the 360 is nothing more than PES5 with slightly better graphics.

FIFA for the PS2 and XBOX does not look great, but for the 360 it's a completely different game - it's football and taking football on video games forward. I was always a PES fan, but not anymore. There's too much money riding on making a wrong choice out of a misguided loyalty to buy the PES6 game for the XBOX 360.
 

OrgulloVikingo

Senior Squad
From all the interviews, previews and reviews, I'm not so confident about the 360 Fifa! I've been waiting years for EA to churn out a good Fifa game but....Anyway, if 360 Fifa were truly really good, I don't think you would have half of the people saying it's no good! I'm sorry but when something has class written all over it, i's obvious. And as for PES....it has always been much much much better in gameplay. I would bet my left arm that FIFA 2009 for the 360 will not be better than PES4 in gameplay.
 

MelvinSmiley

Reserve Team
I have a dream that someday no more PES-loveboy comes here bitching about Fifa. :kader:


P.S. I bet it was his daddy´s credit card too....

@OVNY I´d be careful with the predictions.....even PES with its "realistic and fantastic gameplay" sucks when its played singlehanded....
 

johan

Senior Squad
Rick Flair, I think you should STFU. Are you that stupid that you have to make 3 million threads which are basicly the same (bashing FIFA). If you don't like it then shut your trap and play PES5 until PES6 comes out. If you don't like the game then why do you play it so much ? I think you like it so much that your scared 2 think that it might be better then stupid PES/WE .. for once I'm glad.
 

DVC

Club Supporter
LuvPES said:
I love PES but it is obvious that PES's gameplay is getting kind of stale and old. I will definitely not buy PES on the current gen, but only for the 360 and it better not be a port.

I believe it is a port, a stripped down port at that, too.

They say the gameplay is exactly the same as current-gen, the graphics are enhanced but no where near as good as next-gen should be and the editing facilities have been stripped from it.

If you ask me I'd prefer 6 leagues fully licensed over 6 leagues unlicensed and uneditable.

Next gen wise, FIFA will rule PES this year, no doubt about it. Current gen will go to PES, as always.
 

TristanAbbott7

Starting XI
Yeah, PES6 on the 360 sounds like a real freaking winner!!!!

Basically:
- Fast players have now been slowed down further so the PES/WE catch-up system whereby the world's slowest defenders outrun the world's fastest players is even more evident.
- The goalkeepers are an embarassment.
- PES5 showed that the game engine only enabled CPU controlled teams to play in one way, total pressure. No containment etc. just full out pressure all game. Well, the new version seems to be even tighter with less space meaning that pressure has increased even further.

Don't try and tell me this game sounds like fun. I won't be buying it for sure.


http://gaming.hexus.net/content/ite...tem=7005&page=1

'Now, unless the Xbox 360 we were playing on had a few issues, the actual matches that we played seem to run slower than previous games. We tested this out with Thierry Henry, knowing that in Pro Evo 5 we knew we could virtually run up the pitch dodging and weaving past the opposition with speed and purpose. However, we were right. Henry’s pace has been slowed right down to fit more with the rest of the team. This appears to be the same with many of the players who are known for their speed; it’s also worth checking out Michael Owen to see the change. This slow down in gameplay can be seen across the board, and although the speedier players are still faster than their slower team-mates, they are all noticeably slower than in Pro Evolution Soccer 5. While we aren’t particularly ‘over the moon’ with this change, there are plenty of other modifications to the gameplay that improve the experience and when we asked some of the other gamers playing Pro Evo 6 about the change in pace, most seemed happy enough and thought it actually made for a more realistic experience.'

'The action appears to be much tighter and keeping possession of the ball needs more concentration than before due to the tweaks with the AI players. They now close you down more effectively and appear to be more intelligent at spotting any runs into space. While this does mean that the game is more realistic, it also ensures that you won’t sending balls over the top of the defence to a player running towards the 25 yard line with such ease as before'

The enhancement to the defensive play of the AI also translates over to the attacking play. Players make superb runs for through-balls and will try and get ahead of the play when you have possession as they constantly search for more space in order to receive a pass. Reactions from players in the box who are jostling for space are also more realistic, and after the initial bore draws that we played, we scored three times in as many games from headers (something that we rarely did in Pro Evo 5).

It wasn’t long before we started to find our range and of passing and shooting as we soon realised that taking on three or four players at a time is not quite as straight forward as before. We were knocking the ball left, right and centre to spread the play and create space for players to run into. The work rate needed to create that scoring opportunity has took a significant shift and the balance between defending and attacking play is almost spot-on, and although we do think that some people won’t like the change, it’s just going to be a matter of time before Pro Evo fans fit into the new system.

The goalkeepers are still as poor as ever and a number of back passes that we made were fumbled, almost resulting in the other side stealing an embarrassing goal

We’ll still be adding Pro Evo 6 to our game collection, even though our expectations haven’t quite been exceeded. To be honest we’d have been quite happy with the same game as last time with some visual enhancements and improved goalkeepers, but what we’ve actually got is a more difficult, slower game with few visual improvements and goalies that still don’t have the confidence to collect a cross and keep hold of it. We didn’t quite have enough hands-on time to be able to appreciate the changes to the gameplay, but the bottom line is that Konami are constantly striving to make the beautiful game more realistic. Whether they’ve done this or not we’re undecided. We’re going to reserve judgement until we’ve had time to play it more.
 

FIFAfreak

Youth Team
Mightyglens said:
PES is stale. Seabass said it himself that PES6 for the 360 is nothing more than PES5 with slightly better graphics.

FIFA for the PS2 and XBOX does not look great, but for the 360 it's a completely different game - it's football and taking football on video games forward. I was always a PES fan, but not anymore. There's too much money riding on making a wrong choice out of a misguided loyalty to buy the PES6 game for the XBOX 360.

FIFA for XBOX (and PS2) doesn't look great in that it's not much different visually from 06 or 05... but it does play better than any FIFA on the console to date. It feels like FIFA has finally been set free.
 

SYMO

Youth Team
Hahahahaha, i knew it, good old PES, high work rate as usual, bollocks!

So they tinkered with the gameplay a little, like they did last year, and the year b4, but wait a minute, wasnt it already Perfect??...........why tinker, ill tell you why, to warrant taking more money from all you who buy PES every year, you guys have been sucked in bigtime, PES do it every year, but this is the very worst coz they gone done it again LMAO, all they do is grab last years title and have a little fiddle, between naps, sum sushi, some manga, then sum sumo, some green tea, some kenji practice, a hot tub, washing the honda, bowing, bukakkes, then maybe another fiddle, and hey presto PES's new title, and the fanboys get on their knees. Im crying! :rofl:
 

O'neill

Reserve Team
SYMO said:
Hahahahaha, i knew it, good old PES, high work rate as usual, bollocks!

So they tinkered with the gameplay a little, like they did last year, and the year b4, but wait a minute, wasnt it already Perfect??...........why tinker, ill tell you why, to warrant taking more money from all you who buy PES every year, you guys have been sucked in bigtime, PES do it every year, but this is the very worst coz they gone done it again LMAO, all they do is grab last years title and have a little fiddle, between naps, sum sushi, some manga, then sum sumo, some green tea, some kenji practice, a hot tub, washing the honda, bowing, bukakkes, then maybe another fiddle, and hey presto PES's new title, and the fanboys get on their knees. Im crying! :rofl:


LOL...
dont forget though after the sushi, some Fifa07, then Fifa again before the hot tub then before the final fiddle.
 

mapliopl

Youth Team
this damn fool works for Konami, there's no other way...

The "next-gen" from Konami sucks so bad, I could use it as a coaster and nothing more...

The menu system is from like 1985, the sound is ridiculous, the player animation especially when running have NOTHING, ZERO next-gen to them...

The only thing that has always saved Konami was ball physics and player interaction on the pitch...

But now FIFA has caught up... it's not as good, but real close, and plus, now FIFA has tremendously better graphics, sound continues to be amazing, the menus kick Konami's behind and more...

These PES fanboys are getting on my nerves...
 

djdavedoc

Youth Team
mapliopl said:
The only thing that has always saved Konami was ball physics and player interaction on the pitch...
Oh that would be when your players dont move how you want them to and go all stiff and statue like on you. PES has as many gripes as FIFA does if not more in some cases where the CPU Cheats and scores the most impossible goal going after you have dominated them for 90 mins.

I played PES6 the leaked out french version on PS2 after playing the FIFA 07 Demo on 360 to death and I just wanted to switch PES6 off! it was so CPU Assisted and so dull, even the ball physics dont seem quite right.

DJ
 

DVC

Club Supporter
mapliopl said:
The only thing that has always saved Konami was ball physics and player interaction on the pitch...

I must also point out the fact that in PES5 ... any time the ball went near a touchline it would magically roll out of play, it was even more noticable when the ball was loose.

Next gen FIFA > Next Gen PES.
Current gen PES > Current gen FIFA.

I stand by my equation.
 


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